Greece vs Turkiye Conflict: What Would Happen?

[vostok]

Greece and Egypt simply do not have the means to stop Turkey, even if France joined them. Even secret funding and support from US, Israel, and Russians would not be any help. There are distinct maritime and geographical weaknesses which they cannot overcome.

They will have to accept expanding Turkish role in the region.

Only Russian overt attack on Turkey could stop them, but then WW3 will begin. They cannot do such a thing at this moment.

Why would Russia help Greece? Just a few years ago Patriarch of Constantinople stabbed Russia in the back, legalized schismatics of Ukraine - divided Russian Church.

 

[bosanski vojnik]

there is no YILDIRIM-II , YILDIRIM-III

My friend you have no idea what you are talking about:

https://cdainstitute.ca/turkeys-aspirations-for-long-range-missiles/

To all but the closest Turkey-watcher, this seems odd given that Turkey currently possesses only short range ballistic missiles (SRBMs), such as the MGM140A Army Tactical Missiles (ATACMs) (range of 165kms), the J-600T Yildirim I and II (range of 150 and 300kms range respectively).

 

[bosanski vojnik]

I am saying again , Turkiye is in a war ( asymmetric-hybrid-economic war ) with the US-Israel,France,Greece,Russia,Iran also HEZBOL , PKK/YPG and FETO terrorists and criminal puppet Dictators ASSAD , HAFTAR , SISI , MBZ , MBS in Iraq,Syria,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean

and poor-weak-tiny Greece can not do anything against Turkiye .....

If Turkey was clever they should set up bases and encourage Albanian + Turkish separatism in Greece

 

[azbaroj]

My friend you have no idea what you are talking about:

https://cdainstitute.ca/turkeys-aspirations-for-long-range-missiles/

Turkey must develop it's own defensive and deterrent missile systems. When NATO move it's ADS from Syrian boarder Turkey was vulnerable. And Obama administration didn't sale Patriot to Turkey. In 2015 , when Russian fighter was shot down, NATO take a no support policy for Turkey. So Turkey keeps all these mind when deciding their Defence policy. In next few years as Turkey having a 4.5/5th generation fighter problem, so Turkey must build up it's missile deterrence.

 

[Dragon of Bosnia]

In the next 10 years Turkey should avoid a conflict not only with Greece but also with other countries. During that period one should rapidly and intensively dedicate oneself to one's development in all fields. Leter when he strengthens and becomes self-sufficient then let him solve one problem at a time. Now she risk being dragged into an endless whirlpool of chaos and conflict where her very future will be questionable... many vultures are circling around her waiting for the right moment to finnish her off.

 

[MMM-E]

My friend you have no idea what you are talking about:

I very well know about my country .... I am saying again there is no 300km YILDIRIM-II


150 km J600T ( YILDIRIM ) and 360-1.000km BORA .... 280km export vesion KHAN
now Turkiye has single stage Ballistic Missile technology up to 1.000 km

and Turkiye develops Satellite Launch System. that means multiple stage Ballistic Missile technology .. minimum 2.000 km

Turkey must develop it's own defensive and deterrent missile systems. When NATO move it's ADS from Syrian boarder Turkey was vulnerable. And Obama administration didn't sale Patriot to Turkey. In 2015 , when Russian fighter was shot down, NATO take a no support policy for Turkey. So Turkey keeps all these mind when deciding their Defence policy. In next few years as Turkey having a 4.5/5th generation fighter problem, so Turkey must build up it's missile deterrence

Turkiye has developed HISAR-A low altitude and HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense Systems to intercept Cruise Missiles , Helicopters , UCAVs and Fighter Jets

and by 2023 Turkiye will join to big club with SIPER high altitude Air Defense System + 600km EIRS AESA Radar

-- PATRIOT The US
-- S300/S400 Russia
-- HQ-9 China
-- SAMP-T France/Italy
-- DAVID'S SLING Israel
-- KHORDAD-15 Iran
-- SIPER Turkiye

also in 2030s , GUMS Anti Ballistic Missile Defense System ..... similar to American THAAD

also There will be land based VL Air Defense System ( land based variant of 65km GOKDOGAN air to air missile ) ..similar to French MICA VL and German IRIS-T SLM

also G-40 air defense missile for Navy .... similar to American ESSM

 

[Menthol]

Assuming if there's no interfering from other countries.

Turkey vs Greece, Turkey will win.


Even if Turkey wants to conquer the entire Middle East, they can.

 

[BHAN85]

Greece is a bankrupt country, it's cheaper buy them (what is doing France) than bomb them.

Greece military should feed their own people firstly instead trying to play these game.

It's ridiculous, a country with no sovereignty, doing these stupid things.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish F-16s intercepted 6 Greek F-16s who tried entering the NAVTEX zone over the Eastern Mediterranean



no more tolerant to bandits .. 28.08.2020

 

[Buddhistforlife]

This isn’t 100 years ago and war is now more sophisticated, electronic and swifter with Greece and Turkiye


Greece missile power

-- 50-90 SCALP Cruise Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles for Mirage2000 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW glide Bombs
-- PATRIOT Air Defense Systems

Greece doest have defense industry to produce Cruise Missile,Anti ship Missile,guided MLRS,etc




TURKIYE

-- 95 POPEYE Cruise Missiles for F-4 Jets
-- 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship Missiles for F-16 Jets
-- HARM anti radiation missiles for F-16 Jets
-- JSOW and KGK glide Bombs
-- S400 Air Defense Systems
-- SOM Cruise Missile

after 2012 Turkish Missiles/guided MLRS/long range smart Bombs entered service

120km TRG-300 guided MLRS
150km J600T Tactical Ballistic Missile
360km BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile
also Turkish Army has 120 of ATACMS Tactical Ballistic Missiles with range of 165km

Turkiye can produce hundreds of TRG-300 , J600T and BORA Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, Rhodos , Crete and Samothraki

also Turkish Army has 100 of HARPY kamikaze Drones with range of 500km for SEAD role
and Turkiye has developed KARGI kamikaze Drones with range of 1000+km for SEAD role



Greek Airforce = nothing
Greece never can stop Turkish Misssile Power which can destroy Greek Airbases including Fighter Jets


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GREECE
Greek Airforce has 50-90 SCALP land attack Cruise Missiles and 39 EXOCET anti ship Missiles


TURKIYE
Turkish Airforce has 95 POPEYE land attack Cruise Missiles and 50 SLAM-ER land attack/anti ship missiles
also Turkiye has developed SOM Cruise Missile and ATMACA anti ship Missile with KTJ-3200 turbojet engine

Turkiye has started producing more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles ...... SOM-C variant with anti ship capability to hit even moving warships

ATMACA anti ship Missile including land based variant to block Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean
also ATMACA block-II variant with RF+IIR+Datalink to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki

Turkiye can produce hundreds of KGK smar Bombs with range of 110km

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Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense System including 40N6E Missile , destruction range is up to 380-400 km

Range : 380-400 km
Altitude : 30 km
Speed : mach 4

Turkish KORKUT 35mm SPAAG and HISAR-O Air Defense System entered service to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets

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Greek Airforce-Navy can not match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean


Aegean Islands such as Skyros, Limnos, and Samothraki are technically unsinkable aircraft bases like carriers with anti-aircraft systems, anti-ship missiles, soldiers, and air squadrons

but Eastern Mediterranean is Turkiye's play zone
also Greek Airforce doesnt have Air refueling Tankers and Turkiye can use S400 Air Defense Systems to block Eastern Mediterranean against Airforce



Greek Navy Frigates are so obsolete to compare Turkish Navy Frigates

GREECE
4 HYDRA class Frigates armed with 16x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
9 ELLI class Frigates armed with 8x SEA SPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

Total of 136 SAMSs and 104 anti ship missiles


TURKIYE
4 YAVUZ class Frigates armed with 16x SEASPARROW SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 BARBAROS class Frigates armed with 32/64x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 modernized GABYA class Frigates armed with 40x SM-1MR and 32x ESSM SAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles
4 ADA class Corvettes class Frigates armed with 21x RAMs and 8x HARPOON anti ship missiles

total of 704 SAMs and 160 anti ship missiles



Hellenic Navy no match with the Turkish Armed Forces in the Eastern Mediterranean

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AIRFORCE

GREECE
154 F-16C/D
42 Mirage-2000
34 F-4 PI 2000
4 Embraer EMB-145 AEWC
NO Air refueling Tanker
NO UCAV
NO Radar Electronic Warfare System



TURKIYE
230+ F-16C/D
45 F-4 2020 TERMINATOR
4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
7 Boeing KC-135 Air refueling Tankers
... ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
... KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems


Greece doesnt have capability to hit all Airbases in Turkiye
on the other hand even land based TRG-300 guided MLRS, J600T-ATACMS-BORA Tactical Ballistic Missiles and ATMACA Block-II Cruise Missiles to hit Air Bases , Jet hangars , PATRIOT Air Defense Systems in Athens , Thessaloniki , Skyros, Limnos, Rhodos , Crete and Samothraki



RESULT : Turkish Military huge advantage

Long live Greece

The military comparison is worthless as other EU nations and USA will openly support Turkey.

Also I don't understand why is Turkey still a member of the European union. It is culturally and religiously different than other European nations.

 

[Agha Sher]

Long live Greece

The military comparison is worthless as other EU nations and USA will openly support Turkey.

Also I don't understand why is Turkey still a member of the European union. It is culturally and religiously different than other European nations.

You're bipolar. What are you talking about? EU will support Greece, while the US will remain on the sidelines.

Turkey is not a member of the EU.

 

[Dai Toruko]

No need EU . Only French joining with Greece may make a great imbalance for Turkey. They are very advanced in EW and also their missiles are very destructive. Their Rafaels and destroyers can make a huge suffering for Turkey. Plus Turkey made so many enemies around its borders . If Egypt join French in Libya, it may be another disaster for Turkey. May Allah help Turkey.

Dude quit your Age of Empires scenario and open your eyes. Turkey is persecuting whole Europe left and right. Have fun with that.

 

[azbaroj]

Dude quit your Age of Empires scenario and open your eyes. Turkey is persecuting whole Europe left and right. Have fun with that.

Yes , all foxes are crying in same language . Hope Turkey will successfully drive away all from its teritorial water . IMO right now Turkish only weakness its aging airforce . Secondly , at the same time Turkey opens so many fronts .

 

[azbaroj]

You're bipolar. What are you talking about? EU will support Greece, while the US will remain on the sidelines.

Turkey is not a member of the EU.

This person is trolling .

 

[MMM-E]

The New System

TRLG-230 laser guided Missile to hit even moving targets from 70km away with point accuracy ( bye bye enemy targets in Greek Islands , also in Idlib/Syria )