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Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

and 24 Rafales can not win a war ....
They can prevent a Turkish air domination. And no modern war is won without air dominance.
These 24 are only the beginning. I see a final between 36 and 48 Rafale. Add 20 to 40 F35. F16V in the squad soon...
More than enough to halt your numerous but old fashioned air force. And specially in a defense posture, because the aggressiv side is not Greece.
 
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ALTAY Tank will delivered to the Turkish Army in 2023


BMC CEO Murat Yalçıntaş and BMC Defense General Manager Mehmet Karaaslan


It was decided to start mass production with the Power Group supplied from South Korea

New ALTAY is another Tank from 9 years ago design
This took us quite a while. It is ready now and we will deliver 2 of 100 ALTAY Tanks to the Turkish Armed Forces in 2023

Turkish Army will test 2 ALTAY Tanks . After approval
We will give the remaining 98 Tanks ( 8 per month ) within 12 months

The most modern Tank in the region
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Ha-ha-ha-always dishonesty in translation or publishing incorrect news has a bad effect after distorting the inks.


The article talks about that it will be delivered at the end of 2023
The number of 2 forms for the examination to continue for two years
The start of production in 2025, and this is excellent for a simple reason. The idea of the project was in 2000, the first contract was signed in 2008, and production was supposed to take place after 54 months, meaning that production was supposed to take place in 2014, now production will start in 2025

This is part of the article in English

That is, the translation of the article, and therefore what a reminder, as usual, amplifying and promoting Turkish capabilities that do not exist

" Field Tests to be Performed While in TAF Inventory

Providing information from Altay, General Manager of BMC Defense Mehmet Karaaslan said, “We will deliver 2 prototypes to the Turkish Armed Forces in 2023. These will be tested in field conditions by the TAF.” is in the statement.

As it will be remembered, “ What will the process be when ALTAY is ready for mass production? In my article titled “, I emphasized that ALTAY should be tested for 1 to 2 years after it is ready for mass production, and I stated that the tank could enter the inventory in 2025 at best. However, taking the tank into inventory before field tests and performing these tests while in inventory naturally shortens this period.

On the other hand, field tests of the existing ALTAY prototypes were carried out jointly by Otokar and TAF personnel. Many shots were fired during the tests.
This is all in the field of optimism, the success of the merger, and the absence of problems in the Korean engine. There is simply no real confirmation. It is talk about the future.
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As for the Greek side


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Speaking of facts, Greece is starting to get a 200 Marder A3/5

they claim to be a mix of block's, anyway the one's we get are totally overhauled and upgraded.
Example vehicles will carry next generation gunner thermal camera even more advanced compared with Leopard 2HEL who have installed OPHELIOS.

You will also develop them locally before 2025
The first stage of the actual production of 205 armored Lynx has also begun
The Greece will have completed the upgrade of existing LEO2A4 in the most modern versions of tanks.

By 2025 Greece will have completed the large-scale modernization of its tanks programs. It is about 190 Leopard type 1 tanks, and 183 Leopard type 2 tanks.

Greece is also negotiating more tanks, both new and used, from Germany and

Also, Germany, in need of rapid production of tanks and armored vehicles, will give Greece more work to produce Leopard tanks for the European market.
Unusual move: KMW explores Leopard tank production in Greece
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This provides more exposure and funding
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2022/...w-explores-leopard-tank-production-in-greece/

Greece wants more tanks, as it is negotiating with Norway and Spain over Leopard 2 A4 tanks to be upgraded locally

And with a new deal of Leopard 2 A7+ tanks
Thus, the years until 2025 are more than enough to develop the Greek tanks and armored vehicles to meet Turkish dreams

There is good news Pakistan wants to buy a second-hand Greek F-16, believed to be the F-16 Block 30
Greece will respond to Pakistan's request to provide financing for the first batch of F-35 purchases

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The Ukrainian-Russian war brings economic and military benefits to Greece, as it gets rid of old armored vehicles with more efficient armored vehicles at no cost and provides business volume for the Greek industry in favor of production and export of German tanks.
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With this, Greece will have 1,200 American armored vehicles
Its old armored vehicles of all models fly
It produces new armored vehicles and tanks to protect its islands and economic areas. Europe is bound by the blood of Greece in order to prevent the Turks from any Turkish hostile programs against Greece, its wealth and islands.

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Some provide golden opportunities through colonial and hostile policies to develop the military capabilities of other countries and give justifications to impede their national defense projects
Cyprus is now developing its armaments
Greece is improving economically and reaping the benefits from the high cost of energy and providing financing for sufficient armament to defend its islands and lands. As for the delusional calculations of some and the illusory superiority, it will not benefit them because it gradually collapses.

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They can prevent a Turkish air domination. And no modern war is won without air dominance.

Do you think Turkiye has nothing ?

Turkiye has 236 F-16 Fighter Jets and 192 S400 Air Defense Missiles ...
also 100 km SIPER Air Defense Missile enter service as of december 2022

so enough to block all Aegean ...


and KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet make maiden flight in the first quarter of 2023

and Turkish Ballistic - Cruise Missiles can hit Rafales even in Jet Hangars


keep dreaming with Rafales ....
 
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Ha-ha-ha-always dishonesty in translation or publishing incorrect news has a bad effect after distorting the inks.

Daydreamer little boy again in action .. dreaming about weak and tiny Greece with his lies

go and learn about the Turkish Defense Industry then come and dream about weak and tiny Greece


200 Marder A3/5 ? so funny what an ignorant troll team

Turkiye even export 1.000 AFV , IFV , light Tank to dozens of Countries
Turkiye has its own defense Industry to produce everything for the Turkish Army

even 200+ TB-2 , ANKA-S , AKSUNGUR , AKINCI UCAVs easly can destroy 200 Marder A3/5 in a day ...


Thanks to Great Turkish Industry
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The Greek Air Force is preparing an unhappy surprise for the Turkish Air Force, which is to pressure America, which is committed to Greece's security, to agree to integrate European METEOR missiles into the Greek F-16 block 72 aircraft, as well as IRIS-T missiles
The missile is already working on RAFALE and working on the F-35, which Greece will speed up its contract if Turkey succeeds in contracting 40 F-16 BLOCK 72
to maintain its air superiority


Greece is one of 10 countries
India Looks to Export BrahMos NG
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Which will get the BrahMos NG missile to be integrated on the French Rafale fighters, and Greece changes the rules of the game not only with eager fighters, but with superior munitions
 
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Turkiye bought Game Changer S400 AD System with 192 Missiles to turn 24 Greek Rafales into crap of metal


S400 has the longest range kill record ( 150+ km ) in the world

250-380 km S400 easly can block all Aegean or Turkish EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean against the enemy Air Forces

48N6E3 Missile
speed : mach 5,9
range : 250 km
altitude : 60 km

40N6E Missile
speed : mach 3,5
range : 380 km
altitude : 30 km

nowhere to hide , nowhere to run
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Just a small call to Joe Biden and they will have the 300km model. Be sure.

300 km can not hit even 1/3 of Turkiye
but all Greece is in range of Turkish Ballistic-Cruise Missiles and Kamikaze Drones


Quantity, sure. Quality not really, in hard and in soldiers training.
Greece have unrivaled (so far) Rafale.
Greece secured F16V upgrade. It's all but not made for Turkey.
Greece will probably ordered some F35. Cold case for Turkey.

Dream is thing and Reality is another thing
24 Rafales can not change anything in a large scale war


About 24 Rafale
SOM - ATMACA Cruise Missiles to hit Rafale in Jet Hangars at Tanagra Air Base
BORA Tactical Ballistic Missile to hit Rafale in Jet Hangars at Tanagra Air Base
TAYFUN hypersonic Ballistic Missile to hit Rafale in Jet Hangars at Tanagra Air Base
KARGI and SIMSEK kamikaze Drones with E/O Camera to hit Rafale at Tanagra Air Base
S400 air defense missile to turn Rafale into crap of metal
SIPER air defense missile to turn Rafale into crap of metal

also Turkiye to buy 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter

also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is coming to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air missiles in the internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability to turn Rafale into crap of metal in BVR combat

BAYKAR has capability to produce 36 KIZILELMA annually
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if Turkiye want , Greek Rafales can not flight safely over the Aegean



About F-16V
Turkish Air Force 192 F-16s have network centric warfare capability to use 600km MESA Radar of Boeing E7-T AEWC to detect Greek F-16V from 350-400 km away

Turkish Airforce has superior network centric warfare with 192 F-16s while Greece has only 30 F-16 block52+ and 2 F-16V with this capability now

also Turkiye to modernize 35+163 F-16s with indigenous MURAD AESA Radar
Turkiye has great defense industry to modernize F-16s to block70 standard ....


About F-35
Even no any deal yet ... Greece wants to buy 20 F-35s between 2028-2032

if you are talking about future 2028-2032

then I remind you Turkish projects
-- KIZILELMA ( first flight 2023 .. in service 2025 )
-- TFX ( first flight 2025 .. in service 2029 )
 
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Greece is one of 10 countries
India Looks to Export BrahMos NG
Greece changes the rules of the game not only with eager fighters, but with superior munitions

Keep dreaming dream is free


even I am not talking about Turkish RAMJET powered supersonic Cruise Missile project
or 150 km TRLG-230 air launched supersonic Missile which is already in service
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Turkiye has already its own hypersonic Missile TAYFUN which hit the target from 561 km away in a few days ago

also Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile role .... on the way
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Which will get the BrahMos NG missile to be integrated on the French Rafale fighters, and Greece changes the rules of the game not only with eager fighters, but with superior munitions
There are more and more rumors in India about the Rafale integration of Brahmos mini (not the heavy model !).

Same old rumors about Astra integration, now officially confirmed.
Next step is, indeed, Brahmos mini anti ship and anti bunker supersonic missile. A real game changer.

Turkiye bought Game Changer S400 AD System with 192 Missiles to turn 24 Greek Rafales into crap of metal


S400 has the longest range kill record ( 150+ km ) in the world
Yes, a longest kill record. One.
But why is there Ukrainian Mig and Su already in the sky after 9 month of war against the fierce russain SAM ? Because they are not so potent.
 
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There are more and more rumors in India about the Rafale integration of Brahmos mini (not the heavy model !).

Same old rumors about Astra integration, now officially confirmed.
Next step is, indeed, Brahmos mini anti ship and anti bunker supersonic missile. A real game changer.


Yes, a logest kill record. One.
But why is there Ukrainian Mig and Su already in the sky after 9 month of war against the fierce russain SAM ? Because they are not so potent.

Ukranian Air Force almost totally was destroyed
No any air strike on Russian Forces
therefore Ukraine use land based HIMARS to attack Russian Forces

btw Ukraine's strategic dept 1.000+ km
on the other hand 250-380 km S400 can block all Aegean against the Hellenic Air Force

250 km range and speed of mach 5,9 ( 48N6E3 Missile )
nowhere to hide , nowhere to run
 
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METEOR Missile vs 48N6E3 Missile


Greeks :
We have RAFALE with 200 km METEOR Missile with speed of mach 4

Turks : We have S400 with 250 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5,9


Turkish F-16s are under S400 protection over the Aegean
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250 km range and speed of mach 5,9 ( 48N6E3 Missile )
nowhere to hide , nowhere to run
Your forget that the earth is round....

Ukranian Air Force almost totally was destroyed
No any air strike on Russian Forces
No.
some Su25 made until these last weeks some CAS mission on russian ground troops.

METEOR Missile vs 48N6E3 Missile


Greeks :
We have RAFALE with 200 km METEOR Missile with speed of mach 4

Turks : We have S400 with 250 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5,9


Turkish F-16s are under S400 protection over the Aegean
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Just us some less powerfull weapons, but fired from the Greek islands so near your country... and made the same circles :sniper:
 
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Your forget that the earth is round....

Your forget that Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC to detect Greek Fighter Jets from 350-400 km away

also AKINCI UCAV to carry GaN based AESA Radar to detect even low flying Fighter Jets from long distance

AKINCI UCAVs to stay in the air 24/7 for air based Radar and Air Defense mission


No.
some Su25 made until these last weeks some CAS mission on russian ground troops.

and Russian S400s in Belarus
no any S400 in Ukranian soil


Just us some less powerfull weapons, but fired from the Greek islands so near your country... and made the same circles

Within 24 hours
All weapons will be destroyed in Islands which are 2-10-30 km from Turkish mainland
 
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Within 24 hours
All weapons will be destroyed in Islands which are 2-10-30 km from Turkish mainland
It depends who open the fire first.....

Your forget that Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC to detect Greek Fighter Jets from 350-400 km away
Do something against Greece and the support of your Awacs will be cut immediatly by uncle Sam. That means that your bird will be out of order in weeks because no dedicated spare parts.
Even before if uncle Sam had installed a software on/off switch on its AWACS software (a kind of ALIS)
 
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