Greece and Egypt AF " Houras 2015"

[sami_1]

The problem of the Turks he ruled gang Brotherhood criminal and described other criminals and slander on ُAL Sisi and forget the most important thing the people of Egypt is the one who Elect EL SISI and Turks them crimes against Egypt of trying to pass the hostile resolutions in the Security Council against Egypt and support for terrorism, the Muslim Brotherhood with weapons and flags as supported terrorism and criminals from Daash and others in Syria, Libya and the Turks think we are brothers and their actions demonstrate that they are brothers of the devils and not to the Muslims therefore did not see them, but the brothers of Islam or hostility and hatred of and no one naive we evaluate states its actions, not happy talk As long as the Turkish mental not understand The enemy now is not EL SISI but the people of Egypt because the people of Egypt is elected Sisi and Alliances with Ethiopia and the Muslim Brotherhood against Egypt allow Egypt to respond violently and the expulsion of the Turks from the Middle East, as did Abdel Nasser by the Middle East by Egypt Iron, Turkey and Egypt will not allow Iran and Turkey that have a role, but always strong Egypt expel Turkey and the enemies of Turkey's friends in Egypt and we are delighted Greece provide us with friendship, not hostility It is our right as Turkey allied with our enemies to ally ourselves with all Turkey enemies and evaluate the blockade of Turkey in the Middle East, which is the development cause in markets and investment in Turkey and the Middle East will also be the means by which it will destroy the Turkish entity ally Israel, we forget to Turks alliances with the Zionist entity as an enemy of the eternal Egypt We enjoy Greek tactics that suppress the Turkish Air Force in the eastern Mediterranean and evaluate the concerts raped daily for the Turkish Air Force
Our advice for the Turks and Egypt put you in case the enemy will make us weep blood

 

[NL_Turk]

Turkey itself suffered from many coups in the past, AKP struggled and dealt with the coup instigators from day one which is a good thing.

You make no sense as ignoring the coup in egypt would be hypocrite to say the least because at home Turkey (Erdogan) struggled against coup, standing against dictators like assad/gaddafi and then according to you it should just remain neutral and have normal ties with sisi regime, betraying close ally Morsi.



You live in Netherlands (democracy), you probably criticize Erdogan day and night calling him Dictator etc while here you want normal ties with a tyrant, a true dictator like Sisi without any shame..

Also no doubt Turkish people will make sure to have Erdogan for atleast another decade

@Inspector Spacetime @atatwolf @Oublious @FutureMe @cabatli_53

Erdogan struggled with coup attempts? Oh please, cry me a river.
You mean the, ergenekon, balyoz, kafes ''coup plans'' which were all proven false and were clearly made up by erdogan and his gulen butt buddies?
And yet still he keeps playing the victim card.

As for Egypt, I really like Sissi. Yes he committed a coup, but he did it out of necessity and will the support of his people judging by the incredibly huge protests against morsi.
What was he supposed to do in your opinion while the MB was working on turning Egypt in a sharia crap hole by using democracy as their weapon? Sit by and watch while the coptic christians were being marginalised and women confined to the kitchen?

I'm sure a lot of people here will get angry with me, especially Turks, but I like Sissi. He has balls and did what needed to be done before it was too late.

And regarding erdogan for another decade: I expect and hope and pray that it will not happen.

 

[Inspector Spacetime]

Erdogan struggled with coup attempts? Oh please, cry me a river.
You mean the, ergenekon, balyoz, kafes ''coup plans'' which were all proven false and were clearly made up by erdogan and his gulen butt buddies?
And yet still he keeps playing the victim card.

As for Egypt, I really like Sissi. Yes he committed a coup, but he did it out of necessity and will the support of his people judging by the incredibly huge protests against morsi.
What was he supposed to do in your opinion while the MB was working on turning Egypt in a sharia crap hole by using democracy as their weapon? Sit by and watch while the coptic christians were being marginalised and women confined to the kitchen?

I'm sure a lot of people here will get angry with me, especially Turks, but I like Sissi. He has balls and did what needed to be done before it was too late.

And regarding erdogan for another decade: I expect and hope and pray that it will not happen.

Ergenekon wasn't proven false. The 'Danistay saldirisi' is part of the Ergenekon trial. However, they did try to add other people and organizations to the Ergenekon case as well, with (probably, not sure) fake evidence. Currently the people behind the fake evidence behind all these cases are being investigated. The other was the E-memorandum (E-muhtira) in which the military threatened politics (E-memorandum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia You also had the '2008 AKP closure trial' case, in which they were supposedly "a center for anti-secular activities".

@sami_1 Then you had the coup's in 1997, 80, 71 and 60. After having experienced all this as a country, you don't want to wish it on anyone else, especially to a country like Egypt, that you consider your brethren. So Erdogan's stance on this issue is a correct one, but I do think it could've been less harsh. Let them know you opinion, but not necessarily deteriorate ties between the countries completely.

Sisi being elected by more than 95% doesn't mean anything either by the way. It also depends on who he runs against and the stance of the general media in the country. In Turkey for instance, Kenan Evren was also elected by more than 92% of the votes. 30 years later, in a more democratic Turkey, he was being tried in court for the coup in 1980. Back in 1980, people applauded the coup because they didn't know any better. Now almost everyone in Turkey condemns it. I only hope for Egypt, that it won't take as long as 30 years for the country to understand how bad coup d'etat's really are.

Look here, I am not saying Mursi was perfect either by the way, I'm sure he had his flaws. But at least he was elected. And the thing with elections is, in the next election, the people get a chance to keep him on, or elect someone else. And that is what matters.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

We won't forget, this pathetic cooperation between two countries. When ther is fire this cooperation will fall a part.

what can you do ? beside talk

 

[Oublious]

what can you do ? beside talk

I have to do nothing, as i mentioned early a pathetic cooperation.

 

[bsruzm]

what can you do ? beside talk

Nobody cares Greece but your streets would be a good start, hope things don't reach that point.

 

[BordoEnes]

Erdogan struggled with coup attempts? Oh please, cry me a river.
You mean the, ergenekon, balyoz, kafes ''coup plans'' which were all proven false and were clearly made up by erdogan and his gulen butt buddies?
And yet still he keeps playing the victim card.

As for Egypt, I really like Sissi. Yes he committed a coup, but he did it out of necessity and will the support of his people judging by the incredibly huge protests against morsi.
What was he supposed to do in your opinion while the MB was working on turning Egypt in a sharia crap hole by using democracy as their weapon? Sit by and watch while the coptic christians were being marginalised and women confined to the kitchen?

I'm sure a lot of people here will get angry with me, especially Turks, but I like Sissi. He has balls and did what needed to be done before it was too late.

And regarding erdogan for another decade: I expect and hope and pray that it will not happen.

Wether its true or false, you have to admit, Erdogan played his cards perfectly. He de-throned the military in such a matter that it will probably never recover from it, i dont think anyone really cared wether the allegations are real or not, it was enough to weaken the military political power while maintaining its effectives as a army.

I dont support Erdogan myself anymore considering he is "slightly" losing it, but i always admired the way he grabbed power and maintained it without shedding blood.

exactly we don't hate Turkey as a country and people we only hate Erdogan and his gang

Mate, the Turkish people in general have a problem with Military taking charge of the country. I dont think even Erdogan neccesary hates Sisi, i simply think the manner which he gained power is the problem for him. Though i wont defend Erdogan, i can understand his hate toward the current goverment of Egypte considering Turkey was in the same state not to long ago.

Egypt want to learn Greek experience with Mirage 2000. Right now only Greek use this plane in battle field and if I am not wrong has 1 kill against F16. AA shot.

Yup, however we also have a confirmed kill on their Mirage-2000. It can go either way

 

[NL_Turk]

Wether its true or false, you have to admit, Erdogan played his cards perfectly. He de-throned the military in such a matter that it will probably never recover from it, i dont think anyone really cared wether the allegations are real or not, it was enough to weaken the military political power while maintaining its effectives as a army.

I dont support Erdogan myself anymore considering he is "slightly" losing it, but i always admired the way he grabbed power and maintained it without shedding blood.



Mate, the Turkish people in general have a problem with Military taking charge of the country. I dont think even Erdogan neccesary hates Sisi, i simply think the manner which he gained power is the problem for him. Though i wont defend Erdogan, i can understand his hate toward the current goverment of Egypte considering Turkey was in the same state not to long ago.



Yup, however we also have a confirmed kill on their Mirage-2000. It can go either way

Well you have to admit he did it with a lot of help with the gulenist prosecutors.
They dragged a lot of great men through mud and I hope it will come back to haunt them.

And at the same I hope and suspect that the military guardians of the secular republic have some kind of long term plan.

I'd hate to think that the gulen cult in combo with a lunatic who can't speak a single foreign language and believes that muslims discovered Cuba would be able to completely crush the political influence of the military forgood.

And also regarding Egypt, relations will have to be amended somehow since any pipeline will have to go through Turkey anyway for a cost effective transport.

 

[mingle]

What would Turkey make of this?

They r teasing Turks .

 

[BordoEnes]

Well you have to admit he did it with a lot of help with the gulenist prosecutors.
They dragged a lot of great men through mud and I hope it will come back to haunt them.

And at the same I hope and suspect that the military guardians of the secular republic have some kind of long term plan.

I'd hate to think that the gulen cult in combo with a lunatic who can't speak a single foreign language and believes that muslims discovered Cuba would be able to completely crush the political influence of the military forgood.

And also regarding Egypt, relations will have to be amended somehow since any pipeline will have to go through Turkey anyway for a cost effective transport.

Ofcourse he dragged some great men through the mud, and many innocent aswel. Though however the extent he went to achieve his goals are disturbingly well played. He even got the Chief of general staff arrested.

I dont support Erdogan, but i dont have any intentions of supporting the military in any way either. I simply hope democracy prevails.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Nobody cares Greece but your streets would be a good start, hope things don't reach that point.

all you can make is empty threats and useless talk just like your friend erdogan

 

[black-hawk_101]

May be Egypt will help Greece to recover from Economic crisis by buying Mirage-2000s.

 

[MICA]

May be Egypt will help Greece to recover from Economic crisis by buying Mirage-2000s.

do you think a whole country economic crises can be solved by selling like 10 planes from their mirage 2000 inventory , it was just exercise !

 

[Neptune]

What would Turkey make of this?

Its actually what they make of this

The ongoing,

Exercise Anatolian Eagle 2015-1
Participants: Germany, NATO, Pakistan, Spain, Turkey, UK, USA.

Turkish Air Force:

All operational TURAF squadrons except for the 192. "Kaplan" FİLO


Pakistani Air Force:

No 9th Squadron, PAF Base Mushaf, F-16A/B MLU


Spanish Air Force:

Ala 15, Zaragoza, F-18 Hornet


United States Air Force:

493rd FS, 48th FW, F-15C Eagle, RAF Lakenheath


Royal Air Force:

11th Squadron, RAF Coningsby, Eurofighter Typhoon
(Also some units of 29th Sq)


German Luftwaffe:

European Air Transport Command, Cologne, A-310 MRTT

NATO:

E-3A Component, FOB Konya, E-3 AWACS

 

[Donatello]

Good to see PAF back in Anatolian Eagle.