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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
I agree and Shias in Pakistan will do nothing they have already faced trouble so they will stay peaceful we need to put pressure on Iran so Houthis can start talks and yes send troops but also use diplomatic means
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
Every one knew that from start right? I don't think so our parliamentarians have any clue about the ground realities. They have our pressure points and obviously the first one could be deporting the workforce. Let's see what they tell about policy after current meeting which is happening right now.
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?

Every one knew that from start right? I don't think so our parliamentarians have any clue about the ground realities. They have our pressure points and obviously the first one could be deporting the workforce. Let's see what they tell about policy after current meeting which is happening right now.
For that you must have free mind there mind 24/7 thinks of pus*y,money and corruption while drinking alcohol bought from tax money.We are being dragged into final stage of plan on which US entered in Afghanistan with support of our dump General.
Hint: you can not use nukes in civil war.
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
see i am a conspiracy theorist but iwill still share what i feel. Take it with a pinch of salt.
Yes it hints to a bigger plan. As we can see india is heavily miltarily equiping and preparing itself, russia despite baqwas economy has meddled in ukraine ,ullu ka patha, she at the moment badly needs help to lift its terribly shaky economy so we cant rule out its designs on us. India and russia nexus seems still very much in place. russia and india will both back iran against us militarily equiping it and offering other support.
Irans lust for power and expansion of psychotic shia ideology has been witnessed through her meddling in all arab states and propping up of houthis . irani shias are very extremist types, to me it seems paranoia sort of extremism. So with sanctions lifted ,arab states engaged in mid east, india and russia backing iran our one ally will be left that is china.
Usa aur israel pehlay say hee have always been there with grand plans against us seeking to seize opportunities. Kisi pagal kuttay ki tarah mossad has worked to denuclearize us.
So yey khichri may nay banai hai.
Plz dont think i am talking abt joining any war. i had put loads random thoughts in one post.
 
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Pakistan is stuck in trap due to the luxurious which our elites enjoyed from the Arab and USA.Pakistan people will pay the price of the luxurious of elites by spelling their own blood.Civil war will start soon military will take over.
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?

We've been trapped since the birth of our nation, Allah only protects us. "No nation can undo Pakistan"
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
well thing is onli right choice for pakistan right now is to do what saudies want and for that keep a condition that all pakistani loans from WB & IMF will be waived off .....instead of making doomsday scenarios try finding opportunities in such situation had i been in place of CAS i would have sent my troops by now
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict. Situation is changing in the region. Russia immediately withdraw from the sanction and selling S300 AA System to Iran also agreed on more weapons. Behind this yemen conflict the greater game is to trap Pakistan with Iran like west did before with Iran and Iraq (Shia Sunni Conflict). It will disaster but hope Pakistan must have counter plan of fire-back. This game is not limited btw Iran or Saudia...

Your thought?
adjusting these people back will be difficult for the time being but will help in the long run.
 
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politician don't think about 30 million peoples they just want to save their black money in Arab.
 
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Scenario 1: Pakistan take sides with GCC

It will spark a back lash within country specially from Shia populace and many moderate Sunni parties as well, who dont like Saudi/Wahabi influence. Around 2 divisions will get stuck in a a bloody Civil war in Yemen. Iran is most likely to deploy its forces along Pak-Iran border. India will not spare this golden chance, and collaborate with Iran on harming Pakistan. Afghans will also jump in with Indians. Chinese president has already cancelled his visit once again. USA is threatening Pakistan, as its interests are changing sides now. Our newly develop little understanding with Russia will went up into smoke. Imagine Pakistan in that situation. Even our Armed forces, due to which we have survived last 15 difficult years, will not be able to do anything as they will be in trouble from all sides.
Thing to remember, if some one claim that GCC will come for help to Pakistan, he is either stupid or not sincere with Pakistan. Apart from few thousand tons of free oil and some cash, they will do nothing, and let Pakistan split just like 1971 crisis.

Scenario 2: Pakistan take sides with Iran

It is a very low possibility, still it will bring surely a civil war here. All defeated elements of TTP and alike will get a new life. Huge influx of expatriates from GCC towards Pakistan. Saudis and UAE will encourage India to take on Pakistan. And this is absolute disaster for us.

Scenario 3: Pakistan remains nuetral

This is apparently the stance Pakistan is taking. It has make GCC very irritated, frustrated and so on. Its visible from there reactions also. It has make Iran a little contented, which make sure that atleast our border with Iran will remain peaceful. Our forces will remain in Pakistan and finish off ZeA operation, also to deter Indian misadventure.
Saudis and Co will be forced to bring in their mercenaries from AF-Pak to Yemen. If even 50% of these hardcore terrorist went their, it will be a big relief for Pakistan.
It will also show maturity on part of Pakistan, which encourage warmth of relationship from Russia.
Chinese, who are some what confused with their decision to invest in proposed trade route through Pakistan, will went ahead with their plan. Only downside is the possibility, that all 4.2 million Pakistanis from GCC will be deported. Pakistan will loose free coupons of petro dollars etc.
Positive thing is that, thousands of doctors, engineers and technical workers will get back to Pakistan.
Dont worry about Oil, Iran could meet our needs. What make difference, if you pay to Iran rather then Saudis. You would also have the possibility of oil for rice kind of barter trade, which will save Pakistan's foreign exchange.

Pakistan will also have a golden chance to reverse the evils of Zia times.
Pakistan could emerge as a mature nation, while taking part as a mediator along with Turkey in ME crisis.
Its time for best of diplomacy, civil & military statesmanship. Dont look at this as a trap and negative, look at the positive sides, which Pakistan could achieve here.

PS: Expelling all Pakistanis and breaking all kind of economical relations is not so easy for KSA and UAE. It will drown their economies at once.
 
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Scenario 1: Pakistan take sides with GCC

It will spark a back lash within country specially from Shia populace and many moderate Sunni parties as well, who dont like Saudi/Wahabi influence. Around 2 divisions will get stuck in a a bloody Civil war in Yemen. Iran is most likely to deploy its forces along Pak-Iran border. India will not spare this golden chance, and collaborate with Iran on harming Pakistan. Afghans will also jump in with Indians. Chinese president has already cancelled his visit once again. USA is threatening Pakistan, as its interests are changing sides now. Our newly develop little understanding with Russia will went up into smoke. Imagine Pakistan in that situation. Even our Armed forces, due to which we have survived last 15 difficult years, will not be able to do anything as they will be in trouble from all sides.
Thing to remember, if some one claim that GCC will come for help to Pakistan, he is either stupid or not sincere with Pakistan. Apart from few thousand tons of free oil and some cash, they will do nothing, and let Pakistan split just like 1971 crisis.

Scenario 2: Pakistan take sides with Iran

It is a very low possibility, still it will bring surely a civil war here. All defeated elements of TTP and alike will get a new life. Huge influx of expatriates from GCC towards Pakistan. Saudis and UAE will encourage India to take on Pakistan. And this is absolute disaster for us.

Scenario 3: Pakistan remains nuetral

This is apparently the stance Pakistan is taking. It has make GCC very irritated, frustrated and so on. Its visible from there reactions also. It has make Iran a little contented, which make sure that atleast our border with Iran will remain peaceful. Our forces will remain in Pakistan and finish off ZeA operation, also to deter Indian misadventure.
Saudis and Co will be forced to bring in their mercenaries from AF-Pak to Yemen. If even 50% of these hardcore terrorist went their, it will be a big relief for Pakistan.
It will also show maturity on part of Pakistan, which encourage warmth of relationship from Russia.
Chinese, who are some what confused with their decision to invest in proposed trade route through Pakistan, will went ahead with their plan. Only downside is the possibility, that all 4.2 Pakistanis from GCC will be deported. Pakistan will loose free coupons of petro dollars etc.
Positive thing is that, thousands of doctors, engineers and technical workers will get back to Pakistan.
Dont worry about Oil, Iran could meet our needs. What make difference, if you pay to Iran rather then Saudis. You would also have the possibility of oil for rice kind of barter trade, which will save Pakistan's foreign exchange.

Pakistan will also have a golden chance to reverse the evils of Zia times.
Pakistan could emerge as a mature nation, while taking part as a mediator along with Turkey in ME crisis.
Its time for best of diplomacy, civil & military statesmanship. Dont look at this as a trap and negative, look at the positive sides, which Pakistan could achieve here.

PS: Expelling all Pakistanis and brokering all kind of economical relations is not so easy for KSA and UAE. It will drown their economies at once.
but sir do pakistan has any choice like bieng neutral ?

no it has no such choice its fate was decided the day pakistan helped king of jordan to kill 1000s of "paletenians"

but even if pakistan goes with GCC what can go wrong pakistani shias are pakistanies first and shias later they will not/cannot create any ruck suck as they dont have that power or numbers as for iran, india, afghanistan or USA none will be able to challenge pakistan if GCC helps waive off all its international loans and gives it there surpluss cutting edge wepons ....think about it
 
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No country can afford 3 M people immediately deport from the arab.... we don't have other options but to involve in conflict.

You're taking this the wrong way. If the Saudi Coalition is in such desperate straights that it needs 10,000 Pakistani troops at the front lines, then the WORST thing it can do is deport 1 of the 3 leverages it holds over Pakistan. Let the Saudis flex their muscles, and realize they are no different from British/Soviet/ America/ Pakistan's attempt in Afghanistan.

From this point on Pakistan has shown a mature behavior, it will have to stand steadfast on this if not any future decision against the GCC will only be for domestic consumption.

Leverage 1. Discount Oil
Leverage 2. 'Slaves' Workers
Leverage 3. 'Ummah'

I like @Rajput_Pakistani 's assessment.
 
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but sir do pakistan has any choice like bieng neutral ?

no it has no such choice its fate was decided the day pakistan helped king of jordan to kill 1000s of "paletenians"

but even if pakistan goes with GCC what can go wrong pakistani shias are pakistanies first and shias later they will not/cannot create any ruck suck as they dont have that power or numbers as for iran, india, afghanistan or USA none will be able to challenge pakistan if GCC helps waive off all its international loans and gives it there surpluss cutting edge wepons ....think about it
Our mistakes in past does not means that we continue making same mistakes again.
For your other thought read my Scenario 1 again. There will be nothing surplus nor free coming from GCC. Lets get out of this beggars thinking. Look at the side, you are missing a $45 billion investment bus.....
 
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