Graphic representation of Greece's airspace claim

[Apollon]

He was wrong, there's no certain Greek members, just 2-3 at most. And yes, all are obsessed with Turkey, but then again, so is the whole country lol

Im not obsesses with turkey. I said i dont care as long they dont bother us.

Greeks are liar and slanderer .... Greeks sent Seville map to the EU and to the UN
and Greeks are crying everywhere about Seville Map

Greek Strategy

-- To use USA and The EU against Turkiye to steal oil gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

by UNCLOS , Greece has zero right in the Eastern Mediterranean

Greeks can not take even 1cm2 of area from MAVI VATAN


If Greece says UNCLOS is international law ,, then MAVI VATAN was created by UNCLOS
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Dude entire Greece is in eastern mediterrnean. You now say we have no rights at all? Laughable. You claim. Athens too? Its in east mediterranean

 

[MMM-E]

Show me where the Treaty of Lausanne says that. Then tell me why Turkey accepted our naval and air borders for more than 50 years and suddenly got a problem with it.

In the mid-1990s, Greece had attempted to extend its territorial waters in the Aegean to 12 nm but scuttled the plan after Turkiye declared that such a move would be a casus belli, or cause for war



If it were 12 nm then would dominate 72%, blocking access to intl waters

Turkiye can destroy all Greece but never will accept illegal and maximalist claims by Greece

 

[MMM-E]

Dude entire Greece is in eastern mediterrnean. You now say we have no rights at all? Laughable. You claim. Athens too? Its in east mediterranean

Greece is nothing to do with the Eastern Mediterranean
( Greek mainland and Athens are 500+ km away from the the Eastern Mediterranean )


Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc
therefore Greek Islands including Crete have only territorial water of 6nm ... nothing else

even tiny Kastellerizo Island is 580 km away from Greek mainland and just 2km away from Turkish mainland

and by international law 10km2 tiny Kastellerizo Island can not block 783.562 km² Turkish mainland

 

[Apollon]

Greece is nothing to do with the Eastern Mediterranean
( Greek mainland and Athens are 500+ km away from the the Eastern Mediterranean )


Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , et
therefore Greek Islands including Crete have only territorial water of 6nm ... nothing else

even tiny Kastellerizo Island is 580 km away from Greek mainland and just 2km away from Turkish mainland

and by international law 10km2 tiny Kastellerizo Island can not block 783.562 km² Turkish mainland

Dude...eastern mediterranean starts at Adria...west of Greece. Even Southern Italy is in eastern mediterranean.

You suck in geography.

 

[Foinikas]

what a aptal malaka

The Treaty of Lausanne was shaped on the principle of 3 miles of territorial sea for Turkiye and Greece

even the islands situated at less than 3 miles from the Asiatic coast remain under Turkish sovereignty. ( article 12 )

in 1936 Greece illegally made it 6 nm and the Turkish government at that time tolerated it because of the good relations between Turkiye and Greece

and Turkiye also increased its territorial waters to 6nm from 3nm

The Treaty of Lausanne states that Turkey does not have any rights on islands beyond the 3nm miles of its coasts,except for Imbros,Tenedos and the Rabbit Isles.

That's what it says. Furthermore:

If you cannot understand that,it's not my fault. Give it up and stop posting the same things. You do not have an arguement.

 

[MMM-E]

Dude...eastern mediterranean starts at Adria...west of Greece. Even Southern Italy is in eastern mediterranean.

We dont care about Greek EEZ in the Ionian sea

I am talking about Greece's Seville map claims from Greek mainland to Katellerizo Islands

If you cannot understand that,it's not my fault. Give it up and stop posting the same things. You do not have an arguement.

We know what about by the Lausanne Treaty 1923


Article 12

The decision taken on the 13th February, 1914, by the Conference of London, in virtue of Articles 5 of the Treaty of London of the 17th - 30th May, 1913, and 15 of the Treaty of Athens of the 1st - 14th November, 1913, which decision was communicated to the Greek Government on the 13th February, 1914, regarding the sovereignty of Greece over the islands of the Eastern Mediterranean, other than the islands of Imbros, Tenedos and Rabit Islands, particularly the islands of Lemnos, Samothrace, Mytilene, Chios, Samos and Nikaria, is confirmed, subject to the provisions of the present Treaty respecting the islands placed under the sovereignty of Italy which form the subject of Article 15.

Except where a provision to the contrary is contained in the present Treaty, the islands situated at less than three miles from the Asiatic coast remain under Turkish sovereignty.



Article 13

With a view to ensuring the maintenance of peace, the Greek Government undertakes to observe the following restrictions in the islands of Mytilene, Chios, Samos and Nikaria:

(1)No naval base and no fortification will be established in the said islands.

(2)Greek military aircraft will be forbidden to fly over the territory of the Anatolian coast. Reciprocally, the Turkish Government will forbid their military aircraft to fly over the said islands.

(3)The Greek military forces in the said islands will be limited to the normal contingent called up for military service, which can be trained on the spot, as well as to a force of gendarmerie and police in proportion to the force of gendarmerie and police existing in the whole of the Greek territory.

 

[Apollon]

We dont care about Greek EEZ in the Ionian sea

I am talking about Greece's Seville map claims from Greek mainland to Katellerizo Islands

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So you take back your claim that Greece is not eastern mediterranean? Good.

 

[Foinikas]

Article 13

With a view to ensuring the maintenance of peace, the Greek Government undertakes to observe the following restrictions in the islands of Mytilene, Chios, Samos and Nikaria:

(1)No naval base and no fortification will be established in the said islands.

(2)Greek military aircraft will be forbidden to fly over the territory of the Anatolian coast. Reciprocally, the Turkish Government will forbid their military aircraft to fly over the said islands.

(3)The Greek military forces in the said islands will be limited to the normal contingent called up for military service, which can be trained on the spot, as well as to a force of gendarmerie and police in proportion to the force of gendarmerie and police existing in the whole of the Greek territory.

And? Where's the problem?

 

[Akritas]

Did you read my previous post?

Not only does he not read them, but he will drive you out of yourself again, do not fall into his unorthodox logic out of place and time.

 

[Foinikas]

Not only does he not read them, but he will drive you out of yourself again, do not fall into his unorthodox logic out of place and time.

He just gets back to spamming the same stuff again and again. He can't reply to anything.

 

[MMM-E]

And? Where's the problem?

have you no brain to understand it ?

1 -- The Treaty of Lausanne was shaped on the principle of 3 miles of territorial sea for Turkiye and Greece

2 -- No fortification will be established in the said islands ( Article 13 )


in 1936 Greece illegally made it 6 nm
and Greece illegaly established military fortification in the islands

full of weapons and soldiers in the Islands with non-military status

wth is Greek Fighter Jet doing in the Island with non-military status ( LIMNOS )

Greek F-16 spotted on the non-military island of Lemnos

404. That’s an error.

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Greeks dont understand what about int agreements
Your masters USA-The EU can not save you

TANSU CILLER was great prime minister who kicked bandit Greeks in 1996

ERDOGAN has reached the end of his patience ... no joke
it seems Greeks will take another lesson from the Turkish Armed Forces

 

[Foinikas]

n 1936 Greece illegally made it 6 nm
and Greece illegaly established military fortification in the said islands

full of weapons and soldiers in the Island with non-military status

wth is Greek Fighter Jet is doing in the Island with non-military status ( LIMNOS )

Greece’s right to militarise Limnos and Samothrace was recognized by Turkey, in accordance with the letter sent to the Greek Prime Minister on 6 May 1936 by the Turkish Ambassador in Athens at the time, Roussen Esref, upon instructions from his Government. The Turkish government reiterated this position when the then Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Rustu Aras, in his address to the Turkish National Assembly on the occasion of the ratification of the Montreux Treaty, unreservedly recognized Greece’s legal right to deploy troops on Limnos and Samothrace, with the following statement : “The provisions pertaining to the islands of Limnos and Samothrace, which belong to our neighbor and friendly country Greece and were demilitarized in application of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty, were also abolished by the new Montreux Treaty, which gives us great pleasure” (Gazette of the Minutes of the Turkish National Assembly, volume 12, July 31/1936, page 309). During the same period, Turkey gave similar assurances on this subject to the governments of interested third countries.

 

[MMM-E]

Greece’s right to militarise Limnos and Samothrace was recognized by Turkey, in accordance with the letter sent to the Greek Prime Minister on 6 May 1936 by the Turkish Ambassador in Athens at the time, Roussen Esref, upon instructions from his Government. The Turkish government reiterated this position when the then Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs, Rustu Aras, in his address to the Turkish National Assembly on the occasion of the ratification of the Montreux Treaty, unreservedly recognized Greece’s legal right to deploy troops on Limnos and Samothrace, with the following statement : “The provisions pertaining to the islands of Limnos and Samothrace, which belong to our neighbor and friendly country Greece and were demilitarized in application of the 1923 Lausanne Treaty, were also abolished by the new Montreux Treaty, which gives us great pleasure” (Gazette of the Minutes of the Turkish National Assembly, volume 12, July 31/1936, page 309). During the same period, Turkey gave similar assurances on this subject to the governments of interested third countries.

what a malaka

in 1936 the Turkish government tolerated it but not recognized by a new agreement

there is a new agreement or not ? NO

so Turkiye doesnt recognize illegal activities by Greece which violates the 1923 Lausanne Treaty

 

[Foinikas]

what a malaka

in 1936 the Turkish government tolerated it but not recognized by a new agreement

there is a new agreement or not ? NO

so Turkiye doesnt recognize illegal activities by Greece which violates the 1923 Lausanne Treaty

Read the text again. And then again.

 

[MMM-E]

Read the text again. And then again.

I read useless text .. nothing to do with the 1923 Lausanne Treaty


there is a new agreement or not ? NO

so Turkiye doesnt recognize illegal activities by Greece which violates the 1923 Lausanne Treaty


in 1936 there were no Fighter Jets , Tanks , Howitzers , MLRS , EXOCET anti-ship Missiles , Air Defense Systems , SPIKE-NLOS Missiles , Radars , thousands of soldiers in the Islands with non-military status


ok we understand .. Greece wants a war and we will give another lesson to Greeks