Graphic representation of Greece's airspace claim

[Foinikas]

A good example of dumb maximalist mindset of Greece.

Meanwhile in Turkey...

 

[MMM-E]

While Turkey, which considers half of the Aegean as its own, 150 Greek islands as Turkish, with "Mavi Vatan-type dogmas" and "Mîsâk-ı Millî national borders", does not have a ..... maximalist approach.

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Greek maximalist claims and wet dreams .. no any value by international law

 

[Foinikas]

Greek maximalist claims and wet dreams .. no any value by international law
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Wow! It's TRT WORLD! The official propaganda tool of the Turkish government. It must be a unbiased post!

 

[Akritas]

Greek maximalist claims and wet dreams .. no any value by international law
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Show me an official Greek map that shows the boundaries of your map?
If not, then you are a liar and a slanderer.

Like that of Turkey with your Islamist president.

 

[MMM-E]

Wow! It's TRT WORLD! The official propaganda tool of the Turkish government. It must be a unbiased post!

İts international LAW

-- Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

-- Islands can not block Mainland

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

A tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm


Also only daydreamer Greeks can claim 10 nm of airspace over 6nm of territorial water

no any example in the world

Show me an official Greek map that shows the boundaries of your map?
If not, then you are a liar and a slanderer.

Greece can not show official map because by international law Greek Islands can not generate EEZ of 200 nm


Greece use Seville map which is not valid

US says Greece’s Seville Map has no legal significance​

The so-called Seville Map attempts to restrict Turkey’s Mediterranean sovereignty area to 41,000 square kilometers, restraining the country to the shoreline.

US says Greece’s Seville Map has no legal significance - Breaking News Türkiye

The so-called Seville Map attempts to restrict Turkey’s Mediterranean sovereignty area to 41,000 square kilometers, restraining the country to the shoreline.

breakingnewsturkey.com

 

[Foinikas]

İts international LAW

-- Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

-- Islands can not block Mainland

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

A tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm


Also only daydreamer Greeks can claim 10 nm of airspace over 6nm of territorial water

no any example in the world

But you do not recognize International law.

You have no say in this. You haven't signed UNCLOS.

 

[Akritas]

Greece can not show official map because by international law Greek Islands can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

Then you are a liar and a slanderer.

 

[Foinikas]

• The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea provides for exclusive rights ipso facto and ab initio of a coastal state on its continental shelf which has a minimum breadth of 200 nautical miles, provided the distance between opposing coasts allows for this. Greece ratified this Treaty by Law 2321/1995, which according to the Constitution supersedes any provision to the contrary, and as the newest law takes precedence over any previous one.

• In accordance with Article 121 (2) of the Convention of the Law of the Sea all islands have a right to territorial waters, a contiguous zone, an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf. These zone are determined in accordance with the general provisions of the Convention, as those are implemented in mainland regions. This general rule is also customary law and is thus also binding for the states that are not signatories to Convention. Therefore, all the Greek islands have a continental shelf in accordance with the Law of the Sea.

• Within this framework, an issue of delimitation of the continental shelf is only raised between the coast of Greek islands across from Turkey and the Turkish coast.

• With regard to the delimitation method, Greece’s firm position is that this delimitation must be based on international law, governed by the principle of equidistance/median line.

In this respect, it is noted that, according to article 156 of Law 4001/2011 (Government Gazette Α΄ 179 – “For the operation of electricity and gas energy markets, for exploration, production and transmission networks of hydrocarbons and other provisions”), in the absence of a delimitation agreement with neighbouring States, the outer limit of the continental shelf is the median line between the Greek coasts and the coasts opposite or adjacent to those.

 

[MMM-E]

But you do not recognize International law.

You have no say in this. You haven't signed UNCLOS.

IN THE AEGEAN

Statico in the Aegean was established by the Lausanne Treaty 1923

In 1923, when the Lausanne Treaty was signed, both Turkiye ’s and Greece’s territorial waters in the Aegean Sea were 3 nm and 70% was international waters.

Greece illegally made it 6 nm in 1936 covering %43,68.
If it were 12 nm then would dominate 72%, blocking access to intl waters

Greece is trying to destroy peace Treaty ( Lausanne 1923 ) and Greece wants to start a war

 

[MMM-E]

Then you are a liar and a slanderer.

Greeks are liar and slanderer .... Greeks sent Seville map to the EU and to the UN
and Greeks are crying everywhere about Seville Map

Greek Strategy

-- To use USA and The EU against Turkiye to steal oil gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

by UNCLOS , Greece has zero right in the Eastern Mediterranean

Greeks can not take even 1cm2 of area from MAVI VATAN


If Greece says UNCLOS is international law ,, then MAVI VATAN was created by UNCLOS

 

[MMM-E]

• In accordance with Article 121 (2) of the Convention of the Law of the Sea all islands have a right to territorial waters, a contiguous zone, an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf. These zone are determined in accordance with the general provisions of the Convention, as those are implemented in mainland regions. This general rule is also customary law and is thus also binding for the states that are not signatories to Convention. Therefore, all the Greek islands have a continental shelf in accordance with the Law of the Sea.

Nahhhhhh

-- Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

-- Islands can not block Mainland

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

A tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

 

[Foinikas]

Greece is trying to destroy peace Treaty ( Lausanne 1923 ) and Greece wants to start a war

Greece wants to start a new war? I suggest you stop listening to your government's propaganda.

Turkey,after almost a century,suddenly wants to re-open old Treaties and is bothered by Greek politicians visiting our islands. Suddenly,you consider the tiny garissons on the islands,as a threat. Suddenly,you talk of the sovereignty of these islands being "disputed".

It's clear that Erdogan's government wants to start a war or an incident.

Out of nowhere,you started denying our sovereingty.

Greek Strategy

-- To use USA and The EU against Turkiye to steal oil gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

by UNCLOS , Greece has zero right in the Eastern Mediterranean

Greeks can not take even 1cm2 of area from MAVI VATAN


If Greece says UNCLOS is international law ,, then MAVI VATAN was created by UNCLOS

Read again:


• The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea provides for exclusive rights ipso facto and ab initio of a coastal state on its continental shelf which has a minimum breadth of 200 nautical miles, provided the distance between opposing coasts allows for this. Greece ratified this Treaty by Law 2321/1995, which according to the Constitution supersedes any provision to the contrary, and as the newest law takes precedence over any previous one.

• In accordance with Article 121 (2) of the Convention of the Law of the Sea all islands have a right to territorial waters, a contiguous zone, an exclusive economic zone and a continental shelf. These zone are determined in accordance with the general provisions of the Convention, as those are implemented in mainland regions. This general rule is also customary law and is thus also binding for the states that are not signatories to Convention. Therefore, all the Greek islands have a continental shelf in accordance with the Law of the Sea.

• Within this framework, an issue of delimitation of the continental shelf is only raised between the coast of Greek islands across from Turkey and the Turkish coast.

• With regard to the delimitation method, Greece’s firm position is that this delimitation must be based on international law, governed by the principle of equidistance/median line.

In this respect, it is noted that, according to article 156 of Law 4001/2011 (Government Gazette Α΄ 179 – “For the operation of electricity and gas energy markets, for exploration, production and transmission networks of hydrocarbons and other provisions”), in the absence of a delimitation agreement with neighbouring States, the outer limit of the continental shelf is the median line between the Greek coasts and the coasts opposite or adjacent to those.



See why you are completely wrong?

Nahhhhhh

-- Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

-- Islands can not block Mainland

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

A tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

I showed you the International Law and all you say is

"Nahhhh"

You don't have valid arguements,so shut it.

 

[MMM-E]

Greece wants to start a new war? I suggest you stop listening to your government's propaganda

YES Greece wants to start a war


In the mid-1990s, Greece had attempted to extend its territorial waters in the Aegean Sea to 12 nm but scuttled the plan after Turkiye declared that such a move would be a casus belli, or cause for war.



Statico in the Aegean was established by the Lausanne Treaty 1923

In 1923, when the Lausanne Treaty was signed, both Turkiye ’s and Greece’s territorial waters in the Aegean Sea were 3 nm and 70% was international waters.

Greece illegally made it 6 nm in 1936 covering %43,68.
If it were 12 nm then would dominate 72%, blocking access to intl waters

Greece's maximalist dream

 

[Foinikas]

In the mid-1990s, Greece had attempted to extend its territorial waters in the Aegean Sea to 12 nm but scuttled the plan after Turkiye declared that such a move would be a casus belli, or cause for war.

As is our right by International Law.

In 1923, when the Lausanne Treaty was signed, both Turkiye ’s and Greece’s territorial waters in the Aegean Sea were 3 nm and 70% was international waters.

Read:

- in the adjoining maritime region extending south from Evros to Samos and Ikaria, in the absence of relevant agreements with Turkey, the principle of equidistance/median applies, in accordance with customary international law. According to Article 15 of the Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), , in the absence of a delimitation agreement, no state has the right to extend its territorial waters beyond the median line. This particular provision, which repeats, with minor drafting changes, Article 12(1) of the Geneva Convention on Territorial Waters and the Contiguous Zone, codifies customary law.

- south of Samos, between the Dodecanese and the Turkish coast, the maritime boundaries are delimited based on the Agreement of 4 January 1932 and the Protocol of 28 December 1932, between Italy and Turkey. Greece was the successor state in the relevant provisions of these agreements, on the basis of Article 14(1) of the Paris Peace Treaty of 10 February 1947, which ceded sovereignty of the Dodecanese from Italy to Greece.

- any contentions on the part of Turkey regarding the abovementioned existing status are unfounded and contravene international law. The delimitation agreements are in full force and are binding for Turkey, whereas in regions where there is no agreement on the maritime boundary, the principle of equidistance/median line is implemented based on customary law, which is valid erga omnes.

 

[MMM-E]

See why you are completely wrong?

Read again

-- Greece is not Archipelagic State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

-- Islands can not block Mainland

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

A tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm


See why you are completely wrong ?

Turkey,after almost a century,suddenly wants to re-open old Treaties and is bothered by Greek politicians visiting our islands. Suddenly,you consider the tiny garissons on the islands,as a threat. Suddenly,you talk of the sovereignty of these islands being "disputed".

It's clear that Erdogan's government wants to start a war or an incident.

old Treaties ? .... Turks kicked Greeks in the last war ( 1922 ) you lost the last war

and Statico in the Aegean was established by the Lausanne peace Treaty 1923


now USA-The EU backed Greece is trying to steal our rights in the Aegean and in the Eastern Mediterranean


100 years ago UK-France backed Greece attacked on Turkiye

RESULT : Greeks came with dreams of capturing Anatolia from Turks but ended up going back to Athens swimming

after 100 years Greeks have same dreams