Governor of Jakarta a Chinese Indonesian

[opruh]

Et Tu.

No one here deny that the riot is effing terrible and it shouldn't have happened in the 1st place, but the country at least improved considerably since then. There's now more Chinese representation in almost every spectrum of society.

That's good to know.

 

[Nike]

Hoho it was edited, i can't see the pictures clearly, maybe it was pawai, came on bring those Disturbing Picture here

I want to report you if you dare

 

[Indos]

@Place Of Space

Sampit conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Sampit conflict was an outbreak of inter-ethnic violence in Indonesia, beginning in February 2001 and lasting throughout the year. The conflict started in the town of Sampit,Central Kalimantan Province, and spread throughout the province, including the capital, Palangkaraya. The conflict was between the indigenous Dayak people and the migrant Madurese from the island of Madura.[1]

It broke out on February 18, 2001 when two Madurese were attacked by a number of Dayaks.[2] The conflict resulted in more than 500 deaths, with over 100,000 Madurese displaced from their homes.[3] Many Madurese were also found decapitated by the Dayaks.[4]


Background[edit]
The Sampit conflict in 2001 was not an isolated incident, as there had been previous incidents of violence between the Dayaks and the Madurese. The last major conflict occurred between December 1996 and January 1997, and resulted in more than 600 deaths.[5] The Madurese first arrived in Borneo in 1930 under the transmigration programinitiated by the Dutch colonial administration, and continued by the Indonesian government.[6] In 1999, Malays and Dayaks joined together in Kalimantan in Indonesia to persecute and massacre Madurese during the Sambas conflict. Madurese were mutilated, raped, and killed by the Malays and Dayaks and 3,000 of them died in the massacres, with the Indonesian government doing little to stop the violence.[7]

In 2000, transmigrants made up 21% of the population in Central Kalimantan.[3] The Dayaks are said to be dissatisfied with the increased competition coming from the more aggressive Madurese. New laws had allowed the Madurese to assume control of many commercial industries in the province, such as logging, mining, and plantations.[3]

There are a number of stories purportedly describing the incident that sparked the violence in 2001. One version claims that it was caused by an arson attack on a Dayak house. Rumours spread that the fire was caused by Madurese, and later a group of Dayaks began burning houses in a Madurese neighborhood.[5]

Professor Usop of the Dayak People's Association claims that the massacres by the Dayaks were in self-defense, after Dayaks were attacked.[8] It was claimed that a Dayak was tortured and killed by a gang of Madurese following a gambling dispute in the nearby village of Kerengpangi on December 17, 2000.[9]

Another version claims that the conflict started in a brawl between students of different races at the same school.[10]



Maluku sectarian conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Maluku Islands sectarian conflict was a period of ethno-political conflict along religious lines, which spanned the Indonesianislands that compose the Maluku archipelago, with particularly serious disturbances in Ambon and Halmahera Islands. The duration of the conflict is generally dated from the start of the Reformasi era in early 1999 to the signing of the Malino II Accord on 13 February 2002.

The principal causes of the conflict are attributed to general political and economic instability in Indonesia following the fall of Suhartoand the devaluation of the rupiah during and after a wider economic crisis in South East Asia.[1] The forthcoming division of the then Maluku province into the current Maluku province and North Maluku province exacerbated existing district political disputes further[2][3] and, as the political dispute had been characterized along religious lines, inter-communal fighting broke out betweenChristian and Muslim communities in January 1999, cascading into what could be described as all out warfare and atrocities against the civilian population committed by both sides.[4] The main belligerents were therefore religious militia from both faiths,[5]

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The story at Wikipedia rather unbalance since there was no RMS spoken there, even though based on our justice system RMS is the one should be blamed. And the leader under USA protection (Bush Administration). No surprise.

 

[Aepsilons]

Okay I give example, a "hypothetical" Japan war on Diao Yu Tai with China. Japan lost 10,000 men and worst of all lost the island. We are talking about 10,000 who have families waiting for them at home. The local Japanese who lost their fathers and brothers will seek revenge. Don't you think the Japanese Chinese would be the first target? If I'm a Japanese Chinese, I would be worried.

No, they wouldn't have to worry. In fact even back in WW2, there were Chinese (Taiwanese) living in Japan, going to universities , many even served honorably in the Imperial Army and Navy.

I would expect the same now. Besides the fact that the Japanese Chinese relinquished their Chinese nationality says something.

 

[Place Of Space]

Hoho it was edited, i can't see the pictures clearly, maybe it was pawai, came on bring those Disturbing Picture here

I want to report you if you dare

The government do nothing to stop the conflict among ethnic groups. In this case, do you guys still need government?

 

[Indos]

The government do nothing to stop the conflict among ethnic groups. In this case, do you guys still need government?

I have to admit they are weak during that transition period. And dont forget, the psychological context behind this, after getting democracy, many people think they cannot be controlled any more, but it is just an Euforia, the situation is under control now. If I am a leader, I will be hard, any one taking another life should face justice. And for this, I want hard punishment, if you take some one life so you should be shoot. BTW, there is pressure from the media if the leader take hard action, it is problematic thing.

 

[Nike]

The government do nothing to stop the conflict among ethnic groups. In this case, do you guys still need government?

What, hey you are talking bullshit again, have you came to Indonesia? if not, shut your yap

I can say the same, what good from Chinese government who can't prevent mass terrorist attack in their own country, they are not needed

 

[Place Of Space]

I have to admit they are weak during that transition period. And dont forget, the psychological context behind this, after getting democracy, many people think they cannot be controlled any more, but it is just an Euforia, the situation is under control now. If I am a leader, I will be hard, any one taking another life should face justice. And for this, I want hard punishment, if you take some one life so you should be shoot. BTW, there is pressure from the media if the leader take hard action, it is problematic thing.

You know, every or most Indonesian are like you. Your country will be perfect and going well.

What, hey you are talking bullshit again, have you came to Indonesia? if not, shut your yap

I can say the same, what good from Chinese government who can't prevent mass terrorist attack in their own country, they are not needed

You just have the guts to suppress those minority. You have the ability to shut my mouth up?

What, hey you are talking bullshit again, have you came to Indonesia? if not, shut your yap

I can say the same, what good from Chinese government who can't prevent mass terrorist attack in their own country, they are not needed

Who can stop terrorist in the world? Tell me which countries are out of terrorism attack list?

 

[Indos]

You know, every or most Indonesian are like you. Your country will be perfect and going well.

Thanks mate....

 

[Place Of Space]

Yah I will try to learn Arab later to match your language skills there......

Lux always bring controversial thing here.

Well, actually Palembang people, Bangka people , Dayak people of Indonesia are all Chinese in the past but they dont consider themselves as Chinese ethnic anymore now, and we always consider them Native. There are many Arabs as well in Indonesia, but they consider themselves as Indonesian first. The problems are only happen in the first and second generation.

@TaiShang @bobsm Mainland nowadays has no Dayak people(泰雅族), can you introduce some information of Dayak living in Taiwan to this Indonesian guy?

 

[Azizam]

In Malaysia there's a thing called a "Bumiputra" law. This law makes non malay citizens of Malaysia into a second class citizens.



Bumiputera (Malaysia) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sorta like Apartheid...

That's so true. There are some malays who pretend that they are angels and ask for special rights from Sri Lanka while playing the victim card but in Sri Lanka we never had "apartheid" laws.

 

[NarThoD]

Timor is still independent, and some Indonesians are still butthurt about it.
Move on, losing territory is just the reality.

Butthurt? nah we're laugh at them now, since you're close, you should visit Timor, see mobsters ruling the country and their police can do nothing about it. they regret it for not being our province then, Failed state indeed.

The government do nothing to stop the conflict among ethnic groups. In this case, do you guys still need government?

Nah our country at that time were at its lowest point, Asian crisis, Riots, Arms embargoes, changing Regime, that's why some people just taking advantage of it and causing trouble.

In Indonesia, insulting an ethnic/Religion would drag you to prison sentence with minimal 5 years. So no worry ethnic groups here living well each other.

 

[NarThoD]

@Indos @madokafc trit adu domba ini mah, makanya si Lux langsung kabur abis bikin ni trit

 

[Aepsilons]

Butthurt? nah we're laugh at them now, since you're close, you should visit Timor, see mobsters ruling the country and their police can do nothing about it. they regret it for not being our province then, Failed state indeed.

Dia tidak Filipina. Salah bendera ...

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

"Ethnic Chinese".

But they don't have Chinese nationality, and they are loyal to another country.

If they don't have Chinese nationality, and they are not loyal to China, how can they be Chinese?

Ask Gary Locke and Gordon Chang who they will fight for, they will fight for the USA to hurt China. Without blinking an eye.

They won't even call themselves Chinese either. They say they are Americans.

Just leave Place of Space alone, since he is just a clueless newbie, and I won't even bother with him.

Muslim terrorist attack? laughable indeed

well how about Tiananmen incidents? your government shamelessly killing students using Tanks

who is more uncivilized?

Like as i said before, what happened in the past is past and Indonesia has learned a lot of lesson since then. You should refrain from any comments, or else it will be turn into ugly barbs trading

Well, our govt did absolutely the right thing to crack down those thugs in 1989, otherwise just look what happens today in the Arab Spring and the Ukrainian Maidan.

BTW, those so-called Indonesian "Chinese" are none of our business, just do whatever you like, they are not our concern.

Stop attacking PRC just because of those Indonesian "Chinese", they have nothing to do with us.