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Gmail blocked in China| Reuters

"(Reuters) - Google Inc's Gmail was blocked in China after months of disruptions to the world's biggest email service, with an anti-censorship advocate suggesting the Great Firewall was to blame.

Large numbers of Gmail web addresses were cut off in China on Friday, said GreatFire.org, a China-based freedom of speech advocacy group. Users said the service was still down on Monday.

"I think the government is just trying to further eliminate Google's presence in China and even weaken its market overseas," said a member of GreatFire.org, who uses a pseudonym.

"Imagine if Gmail users might not get through to Chinese clients. Many people outside China might be forced to switch away from Gmail."

Google's own Transparency Report, which shows real-time traffic to Google services, displayed a sharp drop-off in traffic to Gmail from China on Friday.

"We've checked and there's nothing wrong on our end," a Singapore-based spokesman for Google said in an email.

Almost all of Google's services have been heavily disrupted in China since June this year, but until last week Gmail users could still access emails downloaded via protocols like IMAP, SMTP and POP3. These had let people communicate using Gmail on apps like the Apple iPhone's Mail and Microsoft Outlook.

China maintains tight control over the internet, nipping in the bud any signs of dissent or challenges to the ruling Communist Party's leadership.

The country is host to the world's most sophisticated internet censorship mechanism, known as the Great Firewall of China. Critics say China has stepped up its disruption of foreign online services like Google over the past year to create an internet cut off from the rest of the world.

The Google disruption began in the run-up to the 25th anniversary of the government's bloody crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators around Beijing's Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989.

Gmail's setback could make email communication difficult for companies operating in China which use Google's Gmail for their corporate email system, said GreatFire.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said she did not know anything about Gmail being blocked, adding that the government was committed to providing a good business environment for foreign investors.

"China has consistently had a welcoming and supportive attitude towards foreign investors doing legitimate business here," she said. "We will, as always, provide an open, transparent and good environment for foreign companies in China."

One popular way for companies and people to get around China's internet censorship is to use a Virtual Private Network (VPN) which allows unhindered access to blocked sites and services.

"It's becoming harder and harder to connect and do work in China when services like Gmail are being blocked," said Zach Smith, a Beijing-based digital products manager at City Weekend magazine. "Using a VPN seems to be the only answer to doing anything these days online in China."
 
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Yes, i had changed my Gamil to Chinese mail site like sina.com or baidu.com
 
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Wait for chinese members to come up with how chinese web mail providers are the best in the world and millions of users they are adding in china in coming years :lol:

Russia is conducting a massive McDonald's purge | Page 3

"n example is Google in China. Contrary to perceptions, it was never banned. Google's market share in China fell from 29% in 2010 to 1.5% in 2013, and even though 1.5% is not bad for such a large market, they lost out entirely to Baidu."
 
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Russia is conducting a massive McDonald's purge | Page 3

"n example is Google in China. Contrary to perceptions, it was never banned. Google's market share in China fell from 29% in 2010 to 1.5% in 2013, and even though 1.5% is not bad for such a large market, they lost out entirely to Baidu."

Yeah. I was trying to explain something similar to many chinese members here. ofc failed. They see such childish stunts as victories.

Reality is US firms have always innovated to overthrow their earlier US counterparts as global market leaders not by sheer money power but by transforming industry structure time and again. Till the day the process is intact I wouldn't be afraid when some american company goes down.

But all the chinese people here argue is, look this big american company crashed => US economy is going down. Hence we are right :lol:
 
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China/Russia, if we dont like, we block!

As you said, our "brand" leaders got to the top because of innovation, creating new tech and taking it further. All any of these "chinese versions" will just be updated whenever a big American company makes something newer.
 
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OK, only 0.01% Gmail users in China. It doesn't affect anything.

We should ban all the google products in China, they are useless, most people use sina, 163, 126, sohu, qq. All better than trash Gmail, garbage.
 
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Gmail blocked in China because it service no longer needed. Gmail also allow NSA snoop up all Gmail user information and activities on the nets, China for it own security protection don't want NSA to obtain all the Chinese personal information via Gmail service operated in China. Can't blame China banned US IT related service for their nation security reason.
 
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I'm curious- What is the benefit of censorship. Why not allow your citizens to judge what is fact from propaganda?
 
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As you said, our "brand" leaders got to the top because of ____

stealing, and importing intellectually superior peoples.

I'm curious- What is the benefit of censorship. Why not allow your citizens to judge what is fact from propaganda?

Yeah, why hide all your lies behind state secrecy laws, American?
 
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China/Russia, if we dont like, we block!

As you said, our "brand" leaders got to the top because of innovation, creating new tech and taking it further. All any of these "chinese versions" will just be updated whenever a big American company makes something newer.

So when this is done by you guys, it is because of national security concerns.

Huawei Banned from US Market on Suspicions of Espionage : Business : Chinatopix

Yet, when China bans Gmail for below reason, you think it is because of lack of innovation?

Confirmed: NSA Paid Google, Microsoft, Others Millions for PRISM Aid

What's especially interesting about this latest revelation is that it provides proof that Facebook, Google and friends maintained a closer relationship with the NSA than they've admitted. After the initial series of stories connected to Edward Snowden's leak hit the press, all of these companies distanced themselves from PRISM, and many claimed not to have a direct relationship with the spy agency. But we knew then that they were lying, and some suspected that money was changing hands.
 
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So when this is done by you guys, it is because of national security concerns.

Huawei Banned from US Market on Suspicions of Espionage : Business : Chinatopix

Yet, when China bans Gmail for below reason, you think it is because of lack of innovation?

Confirmed: NSA Paid Google, Microsoft, Others Millions for PRISM Aid

We don't have kangaroo courts like PRC have where the local govt decides judiciary's salary and appointments. Our laws are fairly comprehensive and justice prevails.

Judicial Independence in the PRC | Congressional-Executive Commission on China

China's top court urges judicial independence, end to interference| Reuters

OK, only 0.01% Gmail users in China. It doesn't affect anything.

We should ban all the google products in China, they are useless, most people use sina, 163, 126, sohu, qq. All better than trash Gmail, garbage.

If they are so useless why not let Gmail die out ? Why not let the big brained chinese to decide for themselves ?


Gmail blocked in China because it service no longer needed. Gmail also allow NSA snoop up all Gmail user information and activities on the nets, China for it own security protection don't want NSA to obtain all the Chinese personal information via Gmail service operated in China. Can't blame China banned US IT related service for their nation security reason.

Well this chinese firewall to protect china was built using IT infrastructure supplied by CISCO in first place. How ironic :lol:
 
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If they are so useless why not let Gmail die out ? Why not let the big brained chinese to decide for themselves ?

Well this chinese firewall to protect china was built using IT infrastructure supplied by CISCO in first place. How ironic :lol:

Again, because of things like this:

Confirmed: NSA Paid Google, Microsoft, Others Millions for PRISM Aid

which caused China to do this:

China Tells Its Banks To Replace IBM's Servers With Those Made By Local Companies After Cyber-Spying Row With US

China Unicom Bumps Cisco Over Security - from Channelnomics.com

which angered cisco to do this:

Angry Cisco CEO calls on Obama to rein in surveillance
 
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