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Actually the case wasn't fought at all. Someone in the PPP screwed over Gilani, you must read Babar Awan's blunt comments on these.1) Yes, the judiciary 'interprets' the Constitution--only the way these honorable judges personally consider the right interpretation! No amount of parliamentary rulings, votes of confidence, resolutions, and EVEN a Const. Amendment can move these destructive and ideological judges once they have made up their minds! ***No amount of reasoning that the Const. grants the President 'immunity' can make these judges seriously consider the arguments once their minds are made. Take an example: Sunday is the official weekend in Pakistan. What if these judges decide that it should be Friday because of the 'Islamic' nature of the Pakistani Constitution. You can hee-haw all you can in the Supreme Court but it will be no avail. These judges are truly above the law themselves***
What was the logic of not appealing the first ruling where so many more arguments could have been made, what was with the AG screaming in the court? They didn't make their case, even a law student would have done a better job. So don't tell me that they rejected good reasoning, it was a joke how it was fought. On PPP orders, these two lawyers screwed over Gilani - things will come out.
They weren't these judges and also as far as taking oath on the first PCO that matter has been laid to rest as that was under the threat of the gun and fighting dictatorship was something new back in 1999. They have apologized and the government as well as people as well as the law fraternity has accepted it and now they have fought against dictatorships that record is also in front of you.2) Why should I trust these judges who themselves authorized not only Zia's coups but also Musharraf's 1999 coup as well? Some of these same judges not only condoned Musharraf's 'high treason' but also gave him, unsolicited, authority to AMEND the Constitution! At the least I can say that these judges are capable of making grave mistakes but without being held accountable themselves. If anything, those honorable judges, who chose to retire instead of approving Musharraf's coup, should be the ones in office AND holding their own fickle brothers to account.
Law arbitrators cannot and must not be concerned with that they are not politicians they make rulings on the law thats it.3) PPP was very likely to lose the next elections. It just still might. But giving it another 'victim' card, so close to the elections, is not tactically brilliant.
4) These judges have shown unusual haste in targeting PPP while cases involving others, such as PMLN and even the Army ('Mehran Gate' of 1996) are not exactly been pursued with the same vigor.
Cases were held, Sharifs were found not guilty. In Mehran Gate the initial accusation was done by the media the courts never had any allegation against the Sharifs since the 20 million that supposedly Sharifs got was at totally different times and for legit purposes. I am not a Sharif defender just say your information is wrong.
Criminal proceedings are to be done through the government anyway. For example SC took notice of FamilyGate and directed that cases be filed against MR and AI but the government has not done so till now. Another example the CJP took notice of the MediaGate scandal but instructed PEMRA to initiate criminal proceedings.
Incidentally all PPP beneficiaries? Lawyers movement was not a pillar of the state. They are individuals who can be swayed by their personal motivations and mind you they have earned a lot of disrepute for their actions.5) Some of the leading lights of the Lawyer's Movement themselves--Aitzaz Ahsan, Asma Jehangir, and perhaps A.A.Kurd--have distanced themselves from the selective judicial activism of these judges.
6) Since March 2007 much of the economic losses in Pakistan can be traced to these judges creating chaos in the country. Looks like they are not finished yet.
As I have repeatedly said, I too am sick of this govt's incompetence and want to see the last of them in a LEGAL way. I am planning to vote Imran Khan but, knowing the history of Pakistan, any govt. kicked out too early only leads to more instability and economic losses. And people WILL get tired of Imran Khan before too long...so will we kick him out too and distribute sweets like we have been doing from the time-immemorial?
Are you serious? Economic losses for punishing the culprits? Let there be some chori chakaari as long as it happens without any ruckuss? Forget everything you said before, THIS I didn't expect/hope.
Lol, you are saying as you fired him.
Itnay dino se mohim chala raha hoon, thora (0.1%) credit mujhe bhi de doh.
LOL! I think that is simply the Doctrine of Necessity by a different name!
I'm just not competent enough to suggest a way forward right now - although note my suggestion is to resign to avoid ambiguity.