Get Used to It, America: We’re No Longer No. 1

[beijingwalker]

Japan and Korea hardly allows immigration and in my humble opinion immigration is a critical factor in determining the vibrancy of a place.so while Japan maybe a tech superpower in the eighties no one dreamed of a Japanese dream and at some point it became insular.

That's an East Asian culture thing, hard to explain, 非我族类，其心必异。

Chinese Students , Businessman and Millionaires are lining up to move to US/Australia/ Canada/UK in thousands.

https://www.teachingnomad.com/disco...-popular-us-universities-for-chinese-students

The United States remains the most popular destination for Chinese students looking to study abroad. In the 2013-2014 school year over 274,000 Chinese students came to the United States to study, accounting for 31% of the entire international student body that year. A large number of these students come from China’s wealthiest and most powerful families—the daughter of President Xi Jinping, for example, studied under an assumed name at Harvard. While the US remains the uncontested number one destination for Chinese students, the U.K. came in second with a total of 58,810 students commencing their studies in the 2013-2014 school year, compared to 57,190 Chinese students in all other European countries.

While Chinese students only make up about 1.24 percent of the total student enrollment in the United States, an article from the Atlantic this year stated that they contributed $22 Billion to the U.S. economy. Financially strained universities are actively recruiting students from abroad, and the number of Chinese freshmen in the states has nearly tripled since the recession in 2008. Increased revenue seems to be a key factor in recruiting Chinese students, sometimes causing universities to choose profits over academic integrity. According to a 2010 report by Zinch China, 90% of all recommendation letters for Chinese applicants to U.S. universities are fake. What’s more, 70% of application essays are not composed by the student, while 50% of grade transcripts are falsified. Although the fraud has been described as a “significant concern” for many admission officers by the National Association for College Admission Counseling (NACAC), US universities can’t seem quit their addiction to Chinese college students.

Universities aren’t the only parties benefitting from the increased interest in studying in the United States, however. While a U.S. College education itself already costs a fortune, “college consultants” in China charge parents hefty fees to get their children into foreign universities. One student at a Midwestern university told CNN that her parents had paid three consultants $ 4,500 to fill out the application, write her personal essay and even compose teacher recommendation letters. In 2014, the college consulting and test preparation market in China reached close to $550 million, with parents paying upwards of $30,000 to try to get their kids into top-tier American universities.

So the President's daughter doesn't want to study in China herself but here are these Chinese posters telling us how much steel and coal they consuming

US is an immigration country which attracts people around the world to go there, I never denied it,but your claim that Nobody wants to live in China is not true.

 

[Placemat]

That's an East Asian culture thing, hard to explain, 非我族类，其心必异。

Ok. I live in Singapore and can tell that its all in the mind. If one wants to, one can change

 

[Khan_21]

How about highways, subways, bridges and ports?

Poorest American Cities of Memphis and Cleveland are still richer than Beijing and Shenzhen.

Rich educated Amerikans have been moving to China, China is not for masses of poor immigrants. Never was, never will be.

There is no money to be made in China. Do you even know the average income of people there? Its not that amazing .

 

[Nilgiri]

How about highways, subways, bridges and ports?

You understand that China has to launder its capital surplus in whatever way necessary to keep employment numbers up right (and stop tianenmen square x1000 happening everywhere)?

How useful is the concrete (And steel) "consumption" is much more valid question. But fuzzy non transparent control of Chinese economy by CPC apparatus wont allow any such deep audit.

People can be shovelling concrete into large holes into the ground for all intents and purposes too....just like how they renovate every cpl years completely new buildings in China just to keep ppl employed.

China has a lot of scam stuff (as would register in pretty much any other country..esp developed one) going on in the macro scale....propped up by its pegged currency, capital flow structure and reluctance to actually accept capitalism at the core ideology.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

How about highways, subways, bridges and ports?

Actually your highspeed rail lines are using much of it.

 

[beijingwalker]

You understand that China has to launder its capital surplus in whatever way necessary to keep employment numbers up right (and stop tianenmen square x1000 happening everywhere)?

How useful is the concrete (And steel) "consumption" is much more valid question. But fuzzy non transparent control of Chinese economy by PRC wont allow any such deep audit.

People can be shovelling concrete into large holes into the ground for all intents and purposes too....just like how they renovate every cpl years completely new buildings in China just to keep ppl employed.

China has a lot of scam stuff (as would register in pretty much any other country..esp developed one) going on in the macro scale....propped up by its pegged currency, capital flow structure and reluctance to actually accept capitalism at the core ideology.

I live in China and I don't have to let you tell me what China is like, how many times you visited China or that's all the crap your media feeds you?

 

[Khan_21]

That's an East Asian culture thing, hard to explain, 非我族类，其心必异。


US is an immigration country which attracts people around the world to go there, I never denied it,but your claim that Nobody wants to live in China is not true.

Do you know why everybody wants to live in America? It's not because they are an immigration country but the fact that they are quite ahead in alot of things that Immigrants find Attractive. You can have an open border but have a third world country nobody would want to move there.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Rich educated Amerikans have been moving to China, China is not for masses of poor immigrants. Never was, never will be.

LOL! No, you have it backwards. Rich Chinese are moving to the US.

 

[Nilgiri]

Actually your highspeed rail lines are using much of it.

Oh there is lot of non-useful stuff they dump it all out in too...that you dont actually hear much about at all (till you actually know someone thats honest thats from there).

HSR/core infra actually is useful. But they dont have good delineated pie charts for China regarding the concrete/cement use for a reason you know.

 

[beijingwalker]

Poorest American Cities of Memphis and Cleveland are still richer than Beijing and Shenzhen.



There is no money to be made in China. Do you even know the average income of people there? Its not that amazing .

I m not talking about per capita wise, China has a huge population. Per capita US is not the best either. we are talking about a nation's overall strength.

 

[Khan_21]

I live in China and I don't have to let you tell me what China is like, how many times you visited China or that's all the crap your media feeds you?

China and Media don't go along in the same sentence. Your Media is the third most restricted in the world after North Korea and Syria.

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL! No, you have it backwards. Rich Chinese are moving to the US.

Some of them ,the richest still in China, cause that's the place to make them rich.

 

[Nilgiri]

Chinese Students , Businessman and Millionaires are lining up to move to US/Australia/ Canada/UK in thousands.

https://www.teachingnomad.com/disco...-popular-us-universities-for-chinese-students

The United States remains the most popular destination for Chinese students looking to study abroad. In the 2013-2014 school year over 274,000 Chinese students came to the United States to study, accounting for 31% of the entire international student body that year. A large number of these students come from China’s wealthiest and most powerful families—the daughter of President Xi Jinping, for example, studied under an assumed name at Harvard. While the US remains the uncontested number one destination for Chinese students, the U.K. came in second with a total of 58,810 students commencing their studies in the 2013-2014 school year, compared to 57,190 Chinese students in all other European countries.

While Chinese students only make up about 1.24 percent of the total student enrollment in the United States, an article from the Atlantic this year stated that they contributed $22 Billion to the U.S. economy. Financially strained universities are actively recruiting students from abroad, and the number of Chinese freshmen in the states has nearly tripled since the recession in 2008. Increased revenue seems to be a key factor in recruiting Chinese students, sometimes causing universities to choose profits over academic integrity. According to a 2010 report by Zinch China, 90% of all recommendation letters for Chinese applicants to U.S. universities are fake. What’s more, 70% of application essays are not composed by the student, while 50% of grade transcripts are falsified. Although the fraud has been described as a “significant concern” for many admission officers by the National Association for College Admission Counseling (NACAC), US universities can’t seem quit their addiction to Chinese college students.

Universities aren’t the only parties benefitting from the increased interest in studying in the United States, however. While a U.S. College education itself already costs a fortune, “college consultants” in China charge parents hefty fees to get their children into foreign universities. One student at a Midwestern university told CNN that her parents had paid three consultants $ 4,500 to fill out the application, write her personal essay and even compose teacher recommendation letters. In 2014, the college consulting and test preparation market in China reached close to $550 million, with parents paying upwards of $30,000 to try to get their kids into top-tier American universities.

So the President's daughter doesn't want to study in China herself but here are these Chinese posters telling us how much steel and coal they consuming

Yeah I brought it up here just for Canada case too, trend wise...and the convo seems to have ended abruptly:

https://cidpnsi.ca/migration-flows/

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/4-da...crimes-in-america.591452/page-4#post-11057316

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Some of them ,the richest still in China, cause that's the place to make them rich.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/more-than-a-third-of-chinese-millionaires-want-to-leave-china.html
More than a third of Chinese millionaires want to leave China, here’s where they want to go

"The U.S. is the top destination among Chinese millionaires looking to move their families, and money, to another country, according to a new study."

 

[beijingwalker]

China and Media don't go along in the same sentence. Your Media is the third most restricted in the world after North Korea and Syria.

So is western media, I live in US for many years and learned it first hand.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/more-than-a-third-of-chinese-millionaires-want-to-leave-china.html
More than a third of Chinese millionaires want to leave China, here’s where they want to go

"The U.S. is the top destination among Chinese millionaires looking to move their families, and money, to another country, according to a new study."

They can report anything, but the quesion is: Did you go?