Germany makes final break with Turkey : cancels all investments and issues travel warning

[ValerioAurelius]

You were saying similar stuff....when Erdoğan began calling "Nazis that, Nazis this" and stuff....yet you did nothing other than playing to his hand.

Hopefully, we would see something different this time....mere words are not enough. You need to make some action.

The action must be done from turks. 50% of turks are against him. I hope there is one under them who does the right thing.

 

[313ghazi]

4-) If this spat continues and gets even worse.
It will be the best possible outcome. That's why i'm saying, whole Europe should sanction Turkey.

You don't get more patriotic than that. The phrase cutting the nose to spite the face comes to mind. The last person to express such views about Pakistan was Hussain Haqqani, an actual traitor.

 

[-SINAN-]

You don't get more patriotic than that. The phrase cutting the nose to spite the face comes to mind. The last person to express such views about Pakistan was Hussain Haqqani, an actual traitor.

Yeap, i'm patriotic and i believe my people deserve better than Erdoğan.

 

[Penguin]

i believe my people deserve better than Erdoğan.

Yeah, I think they do (hey, we just agreed on something ;-)

The action must be done from turks. 50% of turks are against him. I hope there is one under them who does the right thing.

WTF is that supposed to mean? No incitement to violence here pls.

 

[Penguin]

Where injustice becomes justice, resisistance is a duty. Thats what it means

No incitement to violence here pls.

 

[-SINAN-]

Nowhere i mentioned violence. It can be mass strike, mass demonstrations or whatever is needed to get rid of a tyrant.

Elections maybe ?

 

[-SINAN-]

Elections change never anything. If you believe Erdo will give up because elections, then i think you are wrong.

Doesn't matter if gives up or not. If he loses the next elections he will go.

 

[-SINAN-]

What if not? He has exchanged the entire justice system under his rule. He sees democracy as way to gain power.

There are things that he can not change.

For instance, Turks are muslims. He can't change that even if he wants to. Or he can never ever put down the pics and statues of Atatürk. He can never change secularism and He can never change the democracy in Turkey

 

[lastofthepatriots]

This is funny. Turk arguing with a European drag queen about his own nation's politics.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

There are things that he can not change.

For instance, Turks are muslims. He can't change that even if he wants to. Or he can never ever put down the pics and statues of Atatürk. He can never change secularism and He can never change the democracy in Turkey

Are you sure? He destroyed evrything Ataturk stands for. He is anti science and ati reason. Banned evolution from schools for example. Who will enforce justice when all who could are in prison?

Thats the problem i see. What we see in Turkey is that the educated elite got pushed down and is now replaced by uneducated farmers like Erdogan himself.

I could imagine a person with your intellectual capacities has pain to even listen to Erdogans nonsense and idiocy. He speaks the language of the anatolian farmer and not the language of Ataturk.

 

[Penguin]

Nowhere i mentioned violence. It can be mass strike, mass demonstrations or whatever is needed to get rid of a tyrant.

Don't even imply.

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Good news, EU commissioner Hahn said today EU backs German proposals 100%. Entire europe showed long enough understanding for the erratic behavior of Erdogan. The idea was, that by ignoring his madness he may find back to normal behavior. This failed, so now other methods will be used.

 

[-SINAN-]

so now other methods will be used.

Like what ?

Also source ?

 

[ValerioAurelius]

Like what ?

Also source ?

http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/eu-ko...ruktivem-kurs.2932.de.html?drn:news_id=771435

I think they will end all payments to Turkey and propably start economic actions.

Ending tarif union for example.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

@Sinan

Did I get you right? You're hoping for sanctions?

The Italian guy is telling BS. He's exaggerating every statement made so far. No one in Europe has mentioned to end the customs union or even talked about economic sanctions up to now.