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Geography’s Curse: India’s Vulnerable ‘Chicken’s Neck’

The ultimate BD military build-up should get to the point that BD will be able to use the "chicken-neck" to cut
India in two and then be in a position to hold in the West for a few weeks while the North-Eastern states are invaded by the BD army.


Good luck with that one.

Bases through out BD will be bombarded, easily.

BD is so tiny, they'll just slingshot agnis.

It's easy for you to say all this none sense in the UK, because it's people in Bangaldesh who will suffer when BD is completely cut off from the rest of the planet.

I said the "ultimate" BD aim to be to get to this level of capability as regards to deterrence against India. Not talking about now but 2030 onwards.

The "chicken's neck" is a gift to BD military strategists and a Achilles-heel for Indians.

Can you even imagine what India's military capability by 2030 will be?
 
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WRONG! Independent NE is better for people of north east and for Bangladesh. NE people finally can come out of indian occupation imposed by brits and prosper on their own term with help of Bangladesh, China and even SE Asia. Under indian occupation people of NE just suffer with bully and repression.

For Bangladesh it is better, we would have more understanding neighbors, trade partners. Rivers and environment will saved from indian eco, environmental and economic terrorism.


Yawn....BD without chaps like you & those of your persuasion would be much better for India.....nice...but not about to happen.. Same with your wet dream. Only an absolute lunatic wants to pick a fight with a country many times the size of your own for no reason whatsoever except to do what one's hand should be enough for, with much less dangerous fantasies.
 
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I said the "ultimate" BD aim to be to get to this level of capability as regards to deterrence against India. Not talking about now but 2030 onwards.

The "chicken's neck" is a gift to BD military strategists and a Achilles-heel for Indians.

posted in the wrong forum ?
 
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The ultimate BD military build-up should get to the point that BD will be able to use the "chicken-neck" to cut
India in two and then be in a position to hold in the West for a few weeks while the North-Eastern states are invaded by the BD army.
lols you know before you'll go for any mis-adventure against India, we'll break BD into 3-4 Independent countries. Our brahmos-2 will rain on your teritories and it'll be enough to destroy every bit of military formation and infrastructure. We'll cut your supply line like Oils etc and you will have nothing left to stop us. Even you'll get some diesel submarines, they'll be operated near BD only during war time as they can't go beyond 600-700 km while being submerged and once surfaced they'll be bombed with all crews dead. We are building some serious ASW capabilities with ultimately 12 P-8I, 13 russian asw aircrafts, 60 ASW helo, 12-15 ASW corvette. We rule Bay of Bengal and you can do nothing about it ever.
 
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Bangladesh should be more worried about Geography's curse than India. India envelopes Bangladesh on 3 sides and water on 4th side. India at least has the mighty Himalayas to protect from Chinese invasion, whereas its flat plains between India and Bangladesh.
 
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All this talk is meaningless. Bangladesh is not in a position to go hostile with India, at best our position can be of a armed neutrality, so we do not tolerate any violation of our sovereignty, in case NE gets destabilized. Here is the scenario where NE can become independent:

1. First and foremost the people of NE have to want this independence, right now many have given up, because there was no substantial help and attention from China, specially after 1971, I think China is not serious yet

2. If China becomes serious, their concentration should be the people of NE, helping independent minded leaders and groups like Nagas, Mizos, ULFA and others

3. India is making road and railways to Vietnam and other South East Asian nations, what China needs to do is use this road/rail link to invite people of North East states to growing SE Asian economies, as well as in China, so NE economy and culture gets more interlinked with China and SE Asia. Note the culture of these people are malleable, not long ago many were head hunters, the hill tribes and Assamese were ruled by Tai Shan Ahoms. So Christian evangelists found easy pickings there. China needs to work on this angle, help the NE population tie their anchor with nearby SE Asia and China, so that link grows stronger than a very weak link that has grown between them and rest of mainland India, since 1947, based on few people migrating and living in mainland India in recent decades


5. In the meantime, Burma's sudden move towards US Pivot will come to an end soon in about a decade as China grows more heft and muscle. So getting Burma firmly in Chinese camp is another prerequisite

6. And we in Bangladesh need to go the nuclear power generation route, so someday we have the rapid deployment ability if needed. Russia is making the first Nuclear power plant, we need to coordinate with the Chinese to covertly develop more advanced technology.

7. Chicken neck and Bangladesh is not the main issue, the main issues are Chinese seriousness about this plan and pursuing this plan and creating real opportunities for the NE population.

50 million people cannot be kept down by any Army in the world, if they want to break free and if the most powerful state in the world (soon to be) is at their border and is willing to give them a helping hand, ensuring sea access through Burma and Bangladesh. Just like Operation Searchlight of Pakistan Army could not keep Bangladeshi's down, any amount of mainland Indian massacres would not be able to keep NE down, if they want to break free and China is with them. And unlike Kashmir Muslims of the valley, which is only around 6 million people, NE states is a huge area with a huge population, 50 million. Chicken neck is their future safety against mainland Indians aggression, only they can cut it off, if they want to. All Bangladesh has to do is make sure we remain neutral and not take any sides in this conflict.

So if anyone thinks vulnerability has gone down, think again. It all depends on what Chinese politburo is thinking and planning. It matters little what Indians and Bangladeshi's are thinking.

@Chinese-Dragon your kind opinion please.
 
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It is so easy to say "the Chinese may simply bypass and drop Special Forces to choke vulnerable Siliguri Corridor and cut off the Northeast.” but sorry, cutting off Silliguri corridor is not a knife through butter as many self professed military planners have already announced here. Neither India's fumble in 1962 can be regarded as it's weakness today.On the contrary,the hard lessons learnt from 1962 debacle is going to be the most useful when it comes to a possible Sino-Indian conflict.

The Corridor can be defended with proper planning with bold execution and sorry to say Bangladesh will have no role in this situation.They will remain as an insignificant spectator in the entire episode.
 
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india can take over bangladesh whenever it wants..if banglas join hands with the chinese..then for sure the bangla ports and and all water ways will be block in a flash..regarding chicken neck is concerned..if you see the neck is attached to nepal and burma..which can be used in worst can scenario as well..keep your chickens at bay..you never know whose neck is on the line!

if you see my avatar pic..there is no chicken neck..this is how it will be seen
 
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The article is about a strategic pitfall india was facing from 1947 to 1971. It was taken care of 42 years ago. Now it must mean nothing to indian strategists but for Pakistan it is the biggest certificate of stupidity and professional incompetence its Generals from first 24 years of its existance have collected.
Even a novice in military strategy in 1947 would recognize this spot on map as the biggest strategic advantage that came pakistan's way in this partition. From here onwards military course was obvious for pakistan: Militarize east pakistan. In case of war cut off indian north eastern states by a drive into the mountains linking up with frontiers of nepal, sikim and bhutan. and then help those states declare independence.
But pakistani generals stuck to the senseless view "defence of east pakistan lies in west pakistan". This meaningless dictum cut this country in half.
Agreed !! what is even more tragic that , it was the time when NE was conceiving all kind of secessionist forces and some were already active .. phew !!! that was close .. I m glad NEI & India passed through that bad period in one piece & Pakistan paid the price for its naivety
 
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All this talk is meaningless. Bangladesh is not in a position to go hostile with India, at best our position can be of a armed neutrality, so we do not tolerate any violation of our sovereignty, in case NE gets destabilized.

This is the operative part of the entire post.

As for the rest , like everything else of BD it hinges on the actions of another. BD wants to ride piggy back on others.

This is not going to happen - ever
 
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4. The goal for this long term Chinese plan should be to create demand among the population to become independent from the colonial rule of the low IQ mainland Indians, who the NE population know very well and detest, because these low IQ mainland Indians rule over them like colonial masters. It is only natural that they get back together with other higher IQ South East Asians, like Burmese and become closer to even higher IQ Chinese, both of whom are ethnically more close to them than mainland Indians who call all of them Chinky, Chini etc.

Bit rich coming from a Bangladeshi.

If low IQ Indians can make Bangladesh its stooge, I wonder whether the IQ of Bangladeshis even reaches double digits.:lol:
 
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The ultimate BD military build-up should get to the point that BD will be able to use the "chicken-neck" to cut
India in two and then be in a position to hold in the West for a few weeks while the North-Eastern states are invaded by the BD army.

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Hmm are you the author of "military strategies for dummies" ??

Our eastern naval command will bomb you to submission (vikramaditya is coming to BoB:D) while IA from east ,will occupy chittagong. That would be ultimate :enjoy:

Nobody talks about this chicken neck .. 
@kalu_miah China this, China that, would you stop whoring yourself for china?? does your low IQ gives you inferiority ??
 
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The strategic importance of Chicken's neck died in 1971.

If today anybody is to take advantage of it, it could be China and China alone. If Bangladesh takes up even an aggressive posture(let alone war), the waters in the dams will certainly be let loose. Besides, it is important to know that with the Bay of Bengal in Indian hands any move by BD is bound to fail. If BD has to fight, it must wait till China comes all the way from Arunachal to Assam and North Bengal securing the 2(out of 3) fronts of BD. Till then BD will have to be a spectator. Even after that if they join, their contribution can only be minimal for at least a couple of months due to extensive flooding.

So, no - it is no longer feasible in any way. Besides another very important point is that the good(manufactured/processed/etc) all move from India to BD. So if the situation goes a little bad, BD's local industry will go kaput in a week. They will force the hand of the Govt if the Govt wants a fight.
 
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