Genetic connection with IVC for Entire South Asia.

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

your Bengal ex muslim thread got deleted ?

Yessir

Why would I recognize bullshat and propaganda. While your at it why not claimn 80%?

There is a reason why it is called Indus civilization because it clustered around the Indus valley which is in Pakistan. You can of course try and change geography by claiming the rivers once upon a time all flowed in India but then the dirty Muslims of Pakistan pulled then into Pakistan.

Wait a minute you already do .......!!!

Ganga-centrism -

A organized attempt to make it look like IVC was in fact centred in India involving revisionism, fraud, propaganda etc

I donot disagree its called IVC...but see all the maps from any reputed historian ...they place around 40 percent (conservative numbers) of the sites within modern day India....the IVC chariots, skeletons were found in India...India is only reclaiming the sites that are part of modern day Republic of India...why should that bother Pakistanis? you are generally sound in your argumentation, but not this time Sir .......without Indian sites , the ancient DNA of Indus valley people would never have been recreated...

 

[Bilal.]

Yessir




I donot disagree its called IVC...but see all the maps from any reputed historian ...they place around 40 percent (conservative numbers) of the sites within modern day India....the IVC chariots, skeletons were found in India...India is only reclaiming the sites that are part of modern day Republic of India...why should that bother Pakistanis? you are generally sound in your argumentation, but not this time Sir

You guys claim the whole of Asia, parts of Europe and North Africa in the name of Samrat Vikramaditya fairytales. Craziness has no bounds:

Did King Vikramaditya rule over the Middle East?

Answer (1 of 20): King Vikramaditya is said to have been the ruler of a powerful empire from over a thousand years ago in the Indian Subcontinent. He is mentioned in many different stories and oral traditions. However, not much is not for certain about him. Not even his exact identity. There are ...

www.quora.com

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Most Pakistanis try to associate with Arabs

Is this the excuse you guys have conjured up to cover up your pelf? They are being 'Arabs' so we will leach their heritage? News for you most Pakistani's are not being Arabs. Infact many tend to be very provincial and parochial.

And religion, etc does not sever yoyr roots. If that was the case Egyptians, Greeks, Romans have all strayed from their idol worshipping past. Modern Egyptians do not have adopted Arabic language and are mostly Muslims but I would like you try tell them the have no right to their heritage. Ditto Italians or Greeks who have adopted a West Asian, Semetic religion - Christianity yet again both have right to their ancestors.

All this is about Ganga-centrism which is akin to Afro-centrism. The Africans have no civilization so they look around and saw Egypt. Because Egypt is in Africa the Blacks have launched a organized attempt to take ownership over Ancient Egypt and call the Egyptians 'intrusders'. They paint pictures of Ancient Egypt as Black African civiliztion. This has given rise to the term Afro-centrism.

The Indians are desperatel;y trying to do the same thing with Ganga-centrism.

This is Pakistani ten rupee note. Do you notice something>

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

You guys claim the whole of Asia, parts of Europe and North Arica in the name of Samrat Vikramaditya. Craziness has no bounds:

Did King Vikramaditya rule over the Middle East?

Answer (1 of 20): King Vikramaditya is said to have been the ruler of a powerful empire from over a thousand years ago in the Indian Subcontinent. He is mentioned in many different stories and oral traditions. However, not much is not for certain about him. Not even his exact identity. There are ...

www.quora.com

Those are pseudohistorians..I am only talking of history confirmed by western University academics

 

[KaiserX]

India shouldnt even be called INDIA. The indus river and Sindh (the name of which India/Hind came from) is itself within Pakistan... Present day "India" should be called Gangedesh since the Gange is in India and defines its geography/civilization.

 

[Bilal.]

Those are pseudohistorians..I am only talking of history confirmed by western University academics

Historians call it Indus Valley civilization for a reason. You may have some peripheral settlements but the centre is undisputed.

Why you guys have to claim history of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, etc.?

Do you feel insufficient?

 

[Robbie]

Is this the excuse you guys have conjured up to cover up your pelf? They are being 'Arabs' so we will leach their heritage? News for you most Pakistani's are not being Arabs. Infact many tend to be very provincial and parochial.

And religion, etc does not sever yoyr roots. If that was the case Egyptians, Greeks, Romans have all strayed from their idol worshipping past. Modern Egyptians do not have adopted Arabic language and are mostly Muslims but I would like you try tell them the have no right to their heritage. Ditto Italians or Greeks who have adopted a West Asian, Semetic religion - Christianity yet again both have right to their ancestors.

All this is about Ganga-centrism which is akin to Afro-centrism. The Africans have no civilization so they look around and saw Egypt. Because Egypt is in Africa the Blacks have launched a organized attempt to take ownership over Ancient Egypt and call the Egyptians 'intrusders'. They paint pictures of Ancient Egypt as Black African civiliztion. This has given rise to the term Afro-centrism.

The Indians are desperatel;y trying to do the same thing with Ganga-centrism.

This is Pakistani ten rupee note. Do you notice something>

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I'm not trying to claim anything. People/historians more accomplished than me and certainly more accomplished than members of an internet forum have published books on IVC and which country it associates with. All it takes is a google search to get the answer. Hint - you won't like that answer.

What I am trying to say is why are you (in particular) obsessed with trying to claim non-Islamic aspects on behalf of Pakistan? Your efforts would perhaps be more fruitful in getting your local 'Indian' restaurants to change their title to Pakistani restaurants.

Cheers

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Historians call it Indus Valley civilization for a reason. You may have some peripheral settlements but the centre is undisputed.

Why you guys have to claim history of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, etc.?

Do you feel insufficient?

we are only claiming those sites that are part of republic of India....you have a problem with that? largest OVC site is in India...largest IVC port in India...IVC chariots found only in India....IVC DNA and skeleton found only India...next time stop claiming the history of West bengal please

India shouldnt even be called INDIA. The indus river and Sindh (the name of which India/Hind came from) is itself within Pakistan... Present day "India" should be called Gangedesh since the Gange is in India and defines its geography/civilization.

Indus water flows through India before it ever enters Pakistan....same for the other five tributaries of Indus from which Punjab gets its name

 

[Bilal.]

we are only claiming those sites that are part of republic of India....you have a problem with that? largest OVC site is in India...largest IVC port in India...IVC chariots found only in India....IVC DNA and skeleton found only India...next time stop claiming the history of West bengal please



Indus water flows through India before it ever enters Pakistan....same for the other five tributaries of Indus from which Punjab gets its name

India is peripheral and extension of it. Not central. It’s not called central india civilization for a reason.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

India is peripheral and extension of it. Not central. It’s not called central india civilization for a reason.

doesnot matter people from gujarat, rajasthan, haryana and Punjab created those cities and sites....so we will glorify them, celebrate them....nobody can stop us from doing so....Pakistanis can do whatever they want with their sites...

 

[Bilal.]

doesnot matter people from gujarat, rajasthan, haryana and Punjab created those cities and sites....so we will glorify them, celebrate them....nobody can stop us from doing so....Pakistanis can do whatever they want with their sites...

No they did not. There were no Gujaratis, Punjabis, etc. at the time. This is funny

You have some peripheral sites which is part of the culture centrally located in present day Pakistan.

It’s like Sudanese or Ethiopians claiming whole of Egyptian civilization because some peripheral sites may exist there.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

No they did not. There were no Gujarati, Punjabis, etc. at the time. This is funny

they were natives to their land and built their cities there..I didnot say Gujaratis and Punjabis either...learn to read you thief of West Bengal history

 

[Bilal.]

they were natives to their land and built their cities there..I didnot say Gujaratis and Punjabis either...learn to read you thief of West Bengal history

You have some peripheral sites which is part of the culture centrally located in present day Pakistan.

It’s like Sudanese or Ethiopians claiming whole of Egyptian civilization because some peripheral sites may exist there.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

“Indus valley” civilization.

Ganga no civilization

peripheral sites may exist there.

They do. In fact there are Egytian sites in Sudan, Ethopia and even Somalia.\

Nubian pyramids - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

You have some peripheral sites which is part of the culture centrally located in present day Pakistan.

It’s like Sudanese or Ethiopians claiming whole of Egyptian civilization because some peripheral sites may exist there.

we are NOT Claiming whole of IVC....we are only claiming the 40 percent sites like the largest port, largest excavated site, only chariots, only skeletons and DNA .....learn to read