Genetic connection with IVC for Entire South Asia.

[Kamikaze Pilot]

I knew exactly where your heading for. Notice though I said -

• 95% of Indus falls in Pakistan
• 3% falls in J &K

Now did you not think that leaves 2%. Where does that fall.

• 2% Tibet, China

Did I hear you say 'upper riparian'? Yes but Indus River source is in China which makes it the upper riparian boss of bosses. Leaving you in middle of no where.

China is the penultimate upper riparian of most rivers in Asia. That is a geographic fact because they have the rood of the world.

Read my previous post. High IQ forget about China.

I don't believe Indian media but I analyse the little bit of information we (the general public) get and draw my own conclusions. And my personal conclusion is that India did just fine in the recent India-China clash. That's why there is no change in the August 2019 move.

- PRTP GWD

 

[Bilal.]

never said India is centre of IVC or the Universe...India is centre of Bengali culture though

Thanks for agreeing on IVC. Slowly you will agree on Bengali and Nepali cultures as well.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

as I said bring ancient DNA from Pakistani harappa and then we c an settle this..as of now ancient DNA of IVC that has been well preserved, exist only in India

I have already debunked your "pre IVC" theory of Rakhigarhi. Its considered as part of mature harappan culture, again a Pakistani ancient town, not other way around.

I am bringing your archaeological facts already established. DNA mean nothing. How can anyone tell the skeleton was of indigeous human? could be slaves or captives from other parts of the world! The dancing girl of Mohenjodaro is someone who can easily be associated with African female. Would that mean IVC was build be African people? Simple answer is no.

And that is why, archaeologist use carbon dating to see how old an artefact or a town/settlement is. And from that its already established that Mehrgarh is the oldest human settlement in IVC and world. Rakhigarhi is like new kid on the block, build as ancient Pakistan expanded both east and west. We have got our shortugai settlement in northern afghansitan as well, towards west. What you see in India is our expansion.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

I don't believe Indian media but I analyse the little bit of information we (the general public) get and draw my own conclusions. And my personal conclusion is that India did just fine in the recent India-China clash. That's why there is no change in the August 2019 move.

- PRTP GWD

Yeh it took Chinese over 6 months to accept just 3 casualties...The news of that incident will be dripfed to their populace over several years

Thanks for agreeing on IVC. Slowly you will agree on Bangali and Nepali cultures as well.

as I said Rakhigarhi Lothal continuum is ours, rest can be labelled Bangladeshi to assuage your soul

I have already debunked your "pre IVC" theory of Rakhigarhi. Its considered as part of mature harappan culture, again a Pakistani ancient town, not other way around.

I am bringing your archaeological facts already established. DNA mean nothing. How can anyone tell the skeleton was of indigeous human? could be slaves or captives from other parts of the world! The dancing girl of Mohenjodaro is someone who can easily be associated with African female. Would that mean IVC was build be African people? Simple answer is no.

And that is why, archaeologist use carbon dating to see how old an artefact or a town/settlement is. And from that its already established that Mehrgarh is the oldest human settlement in IVC and world. Rakhigarhi is like new kid on the block, build as ancient Pakistan expanded both east and west. We have got our shortugai settlement in northern afghansitan as well, towards west. What you see in India is our expansion.

dream on...we have DNA from 5,000 years back and we have DNA from now...both connected together...you donot get to claim anything within our borders..we donot get to claim anything within your borders....that has always been the rule here on PDF..and I will follow it to the T

 

[Bilal.]

as I said Rakhigarhi Lothal continuum is ours, rest can be labelled Bangladeshi to assuage your soul

Just peripherals and as you rightly agreed, the core and hence the cultural claim lies with Pakistan alone. Thank you.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Just peripherals and as you rightly agreed. The core and hence the cultural claim lies with Pakistan. Thank you.

we couldnot care less about what outside our borders..we have indigenous civilizational sites and artefacts within India that date back to thousands of years, and thats what matters...

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I don't

What I mean't was China is the upper riparian state because Indus River source is in China.

 

[Bilal.]

we couldnot care less about what outside our borders..we have indigenous civilizational sites and artefacts within India that date back to thousands of years, and thats what matters...

Good progress. You are agreeing to all basically

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Yeh it took Chinese over 6 months to accept just 3 casualties...The news of that incident will be dripfed to their populace over several years

The basis of my conclusions was the following two points:

1. Remember the 2017 Doklam standoff. It lasted for roughly 70 days and Chinese did nothing except issue daily warnings.

2. Word of mouth information regarding 2020 Galwan clash by one PDF member. Word of mouth information is more authentic and reliable than any media.

- PRTP GWD

What I mean't was China is the upper riparian state because Indus River source is in China.

Now read what this Parsi said:

Tibet is going to get hot now.

- PRTP GWD

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I donot dispute that Mehgarh farmers came in from the West......all the while we have been debating over nothing

How is over 90% of the IVC that is situated in modern day Pakistan in any way relevant to modern day india and indians?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

How is over 90% of the IVC that is situated in modern day Pakistan in any way relevant to modern day india and indians?

The biggest IVC site Rakhigarhi is in India....the biggest IVC port is in India....IVC DNA only found in India...IVC chariots only found in India

 

[Bilal.]

The biggest IVC site Rakhigarhi is in India....the biggest IVC port is in India....IVC DNA only found in India...IVC chariots only found in India

And like you agreed, all of those are peripheral sites and india has no claim on the IVC culture and it’s legacy.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

And like you agreed, all of those are peripheral sites and india has no claim on the IVC culture and it’s legacy.

we have claim to the culture and legacy of Rakhigarhi , of Lothal, Kalibangan, Dholavira...that's already too much

 

[Bilal.]

we have claim to the culture and legacy of Rakhigarhi , of Lothal, Kalibangan, Dholavira...that's already too much

As much as Levant have claims on Egyptian civilization sites in that region. Only that it lies there but belongs wholly to Egyptian cultural legacy.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Yeh it took Chinese over 6 months to accept just 3 casualties...The news of that incident will be dripfed to their populace over several years



as I said Rakhigarhi Lothal continuum is ours, rest can be labelled Bangladeshi to assuage your soul



dream on...we have DNA from 5,000 years back and we have DNA from now...both connected together...you donot get to claim anything within our borders..we donot get to claim anything within your borders....that has always been the rule here on PDF..and I will follow it to the T

Whoes dreaming ? I am just calling out your BS. Your intellectual gymnastics is causing issues within your own country. Read and weep.

4500-year-old DNA from Rakhigarhi reveals evidence that will unsettle Hindutva nationalists - Cover Story News - Issue Date: Sep 10, 2018 (indiatoday.in)

The findings of a highly anticipated study of ancient DNA from the graveyard of the historic Indian town of Rakhigarhi reveal evidence that will unsettle many Hindutva nationalists



Q: Were they closer to popular perceptions of 'Aryans' or of 'Dravidians'? A: Dravidians .



Q: Were they more akin to the South Indians or North Indians of today? A: South Indians.








As this article suggest, from your own miserable country, that people there are south Indians. Not punjabi, rajistani or Gujrati as you are trying to sell. LOL



If you are burried in Germany, and many thousands years gone, they found your bones , according to your logic, Germany will become part of vedic history, not realising, that you were a economic migrant. LOL

Stop embarrassing yourself kid. Archelogy has already established the origin of IVC in Pakistan. The rest is just the offshoot from it.