very unfair, irrelevant and insensitive comparison. do consider though, the Pakistanis in UAE and KSA are still alive and are the source of bread and butter for their families back home,
Gen Bajwa has only gone to mediate and calm down our Arab master brother.
re Israel recognition, that may get out of scope of discussion but you might have already noticed the vague reaction from our foreign office. so if the Saudis make a "suggestion" then our response will be when do you want us to open the embassy?
we will do what our Arab master brother tells us , we have to oblige.after all we are owed money to KSA and have tens of thousands of Pakistani labour force trying to earn a living. all we have is a bomb and lot of resilence to take insults. what else do you think we have to offer to Arabs?
As for sacrificing lives is concerned my friend,
that has already happened, we did send our troops quietly as demanded for their Yemen campaign.
I know that there are other people on this forum who are aware like me that bodies have returned or just buried quietly in KSA or Yemen anyone who says otherwise is ignorant or lying.
thats why we were paid that $1.5 Billion or so by the Saudis during Nawaz time which he tried to cover as a favour by Saudis due to his personal relations. Arabs are very shrewd traders since the time of recorded history they dont do favors. it was a shut-up compensation money for the troops. Raheel Sherif didnt get a job there for refusing the troops. there was no chance to allow him in KSA and not send to jail for insulting the Royal Arabs specially when KSA passed the threats of dreadful consequences via a lower tier UAE minister. Pakistani parliament rejection of sending troops to invade Yemen during Noon league govt was just to pull wool over the eyes of Pakistanis.
this needs guts in our leadership and sadly I dont see any hopeful example from past or present either in military or civilian governments that have begged to differ with the saudis. our close brotherly relations with saudis on international relations and matters are very simple
Follow the instructions of Ryadh.
recall how we were forced to close the gas pipeline deal with Iran? our Arab brothers openly support select sectarian groups in Pakistan who are very vocal in their support for Daesh and Al Qaeda and their local partners. we have Daesh knocking at the doors. we havent quelled the TTP completely and Lal Masjid fitna is seething like an amber we must be ready for another round of sectarian based punishment which might spill over to general public and state as well.
only China is a balancing figure here. it might help cushion Pakistan from any Arab reprisal it has invested in Iran and brought Iran in line as well. but thats all wishful thinking only on the hypothesis that Pakistani leadership does the unthinkable and stands up to the Arab brothers and dares to speak for its national interests.
again I feel like broken record. this thing to happen requires guts. Gen Bajwa didnt need to go to plead for mercy. Iran should've gone to Malaysia despite the Saudi threats.
just like UAE invited the Indian guests of Honour to the OIC summit despite our protests and boycott.
bottom line is we find ourselves in this position because we have degraded ourselves nationally and internationally that we have to apologize even if we are wronged and even if we are saying the right thing.
Saudis and Americans do have say in our international relations. its not just the military that is enough to counter the obnoxious Arabs and their mischievous Israeli partners. we need self reliance and stronger economy so much so that we no longer have our men leaving our country to do labour in the Arab land.
Thanks for humble reply, I didn't wanted to open up the Pandora box, evn I knew more then that, the place I'm living in here, I hve developed many friendships with Arabs and jews for normal bussines and I think both are 2 different sides of the same coin.
I beg, pak army to take over, the country as fast as they can, bring top professionals from within the country to run it, and let real justice starts up to all of crouptors no matter, who may they are, in uniform or without uniform all, should be paraded and then shot down infront if minar e pakistan without any mercy, and then let professionals work and form real, political parties for the devlpoment of the country, as i told you we don't need these weak, conspirative Arabs fool kings and thier trillions of SOBs?
It's they, who needed, the security we hve enough to take care ouselves, let them face huttis from yeman, let them die by the hands of Iran or anyone else but don't bow down to thier feet for some money which isn't enough for any of our poor ppls ever?
Fight brother, stand up, there are far weaker nations on earth who stood and fighted out, thier problems and now are on path of good economy like VIETNAM it's was completely destroyed by USA but look they stood and fighted out against the sole superpower on earth and let it ran away from. Thier lands?
Brother, progress starts from dignity, honor not by begging, a few billions which were distributed by politicians and genrals all togather, cause no one can eat alone?
And no one is innocent in pakistan, nor a angel but still, pak army is the last hope, as I know in which there are many real brave and honorable sons of Pakistan who can do the job at any time when it's needed!
If not, you just be asked to accept Israel, but it ill be DO MORE like always!
I don't want to more mean, to you any way, but I'm sharing my pain with you as a common pakistani, who is looking at our military leadership to stand and deliver instead given us sermons of our bad economy, may God bless you for talking real and truth I never expected that you ill open up so much, but at least ppls like you in uniform are real hope for pakistanis.
