Gender Selection : Choosing the Sex of Your Child

[Sky lord]

so tell me then what is your solution for old parent in our society with no kids or just girls.

Dude if girls are given good education and economically independent, they look after parents better than sons. ...so best advice have few children and educate them best you can and save the rest of the money for your old age.

Gender selection....very difficult, expensive and as far as I can see totally uneccesary. Try Chinese conception calendar...at least it won't do any harm.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Its the right of any woman to refuse to take care of her in laws since according to Islam, she is only responsible for her own parents, not her husband's and vice versa. But God forbid if someone openly refuses.

How can married woman look after her own parent when she is living with her husband at different place?

 

[Manama]

I agree with some of your points but you are pretty harsh so tell me then what is your solution for old parent in our society with no kids or just girls. Do you have concept of old homes for them or even carers ? maids are not solution because they have no emotional attachment with you and just work for money . they will not give you that emotional comfort which you get form your own children. When you are in old age then you actually become as helpless as you are in your childhood when you depend on others for everything and things actually become worse if these old people ever get long term illness and depend on others for as simple thing as eating or going to toilet without any help.


It work for as cheap as one lakh rupees

The children can get a separate home for their parents that doesn't mean leaving them in old homes but it also doesn't mean living together at all times. Old homes are must in any area BUT what should be ideal is, parents having a separate homes and kids having a separate home. "Just girls" comeon! i as a young girl supported my mother and is still doing as an only kid while my dad who was so believing in his "sons" aka my step brothers is now suffering. Don't underestimate a child and gender is surely not required for taking care of your parents.
Maids are the solution. I never said that kids don't go to their parents, Children visit their parents all the time while the maid does the work. Most of these "joint systems" are the same. The guy does the work outside, wife works at home, they all neither love nor hate each others, its a painful neutral mood. Why not spend time with each other while someone can do the work for them?

People should prepare for their old age, when they are young but that doesn't mean having multiple kids. If someone is ill and is having problems while going to toilet etc, there is something called hospitals, nurses and maids. The child who might be an adult now, has a job, might be married and has kids. What about those rights? Islam says be good to your parents, not be a slave to them. This concept that "i gave birth to you and raised you so you have to be there for me" is not a right, its emotional blackmailing.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Dude if girls are given good education and economically independent, they look after parents better than sons. ...so best advice have few children and educate them best you can and save the rest of the money for your old age.

Gender selection....very difficult, expensive and as far as I can see totally uneccesary. Try Chinese conception calendar...at least it won't do any harm.

you are right about education and economically independence of woman. Its true that some women in our society are educated but most of them depend on men for financial needs because Islam put this financial responsibility on shoulder of man. women has choice to stay a home or work while Muslim man has no option to stay at home whther he is father or husband

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

The children can get a separate home for their parents that doesn't mean leaving them in old homes but it also doesn't mean living together at all times. Old homes are must in any area BUT what should be ideal is, parents having a separate homes and kids having a separate home. "Just girls" comeon! i as a young girl supported my mother and is still doing as an only kid while my dad who was so believing in his "sons" aka my step brothers is now suffering. Don't underestimate a child and gender is surely not required for taking care of your parents.
Maids are the solution. I never said that kids don't go to their parents, Children visit their parents all the time while the maid does the work. Most of these "joint systems" are the same. The guy does the work outside, wife works at home, they all neither love nor hate each others, its a painful neutral mood. Why not spend time with each other while someone can do the work for them?

People should prepare for their old age, when they are young but that doesn't mean having multiple kids. If someone is ill and is having problems while going to toilet etc, there is something called hospitals, nurses and maids. The child who might be an adult now, has a job, might be married and has kids. What about those rights? Islam says be good to your parents, not be a slave to them. This concept that "i gave birth to you and raised you so you have to be there for me" is not a right, its emotional blackmailing.

Daughters can look after mothers but they cannot handle man who is strongly built . I remember the situation of my tall father who needed physical help in later stages of his life because his lever stop working but I have seen my mother struggling managing him without our help or without help of any man in our family Boht gender play different roles and I am not saying girls are less caring or loving but they can not handle certain tasks for example son can take father to toilet, can change his clothes, can give him shower etc

Ok...even if a woman is at home she is still working....though not paid for it. Often harder than the man who goes out to work. Housework and taking care of kids, especially in a developing country is hard labor.

So surely she is entitled to some say in how the family income is spent. Do you agree?

You did not get the point. I never said taking care of house or kids is less demanding job but I am saying that man in our society cannot ask woman to go work outside as full time so that's where our society is different than western society where man and woman contribute equally in everything . If we were like them then there would be no need for our people to have this desire for son for financial , emotional or physical assistance . I can understand that it don't make any difference to have girl or boy from western point of views where girls and boys doing same roles and live separately after getting BF/GF

 

[Yaseen1]

In past human history natural child birth was free of cost and was successful otherwise human population had ended long time ago.Now with interference of science in every aspect has made money necessary for human birth but in present many women in villages also give birth at home with no cost.There are many things in this world which ALLAH ALMIGHTY HAS given us free of cost such as air in which we breathe sunlight rain water and human intellect and many other things in which there is no human involvement.If humans decide to select gender of their children then this will increase male population and decrease female population particularly in Pakistan and india and this will promote gay marriages in our society which is unIslamic and unethical so govt should ban such hospitals and doctors which provide such services of gender selection of children

couples can off course try again and again but if they dont involve this gender selection procedure then it will be always fifty fifty chance of getting either boys or girls and many couple will end up with so many girls or boys in hope of getting opposite as abortion is haram and you cannot kill fetus in womb


People pay 20 to 50 thousand Rupees just for normal delivery in hospital and it exclude all others medicines and test/xrays which women need during pregnancy . Nothing is free in this world

couples can off course try again and again but if they dont involve this gender selection procedure then it will be always fifty fifty chance of getting either boys or girls and many couple will end up with so many girls or boys in hope of getting opposite as abortion is haram and you cannot kill fetus in womb


People pay 20 to 50 thousand Rupees just for normal delivery in hospital and it exclude all others medicines and test/xrays which women need during pregnancy . Nothing is free in this world

 

[El Sidd]

Interesting article indeed.

If only one could get the scientific method of creating and moulding characters of the newborn baby too. Till then I guess we can only hope that parents achieve this by good upbringing of their children.

Times haven't really changed in this department for the past 1400 years and it's a testimony to the truthfulness of the religion.

They used to burry the girls in Arabia, they still do female infanticide in many places. Now since it is the modern age I guess MAN have evolved enough to achieve this through scientific means.

For those who wish to see the truth has never been clearer.

I am sure the mullahs will come up with fatwas too that this is totally sunnat e ibrahimi. Like seriously we only listen about Isaac and Ishmael and not the matriarchs.

Interesting article indeed.

If only one could get the scientific method of creating and moulding characters of the newborn baby too. Till then I guess we can only hope that parents achieve this by good upbringing of their children.

Times haven't really changed in this department for the past 1400 years and it's a testimony to the truthfulness of the religion.

They used to burry the girls in Arabia, they still do female infanticide in many places. Now since it is the modern age I guess MAN have evolved enough to achieve this through scientific means.

For those who wish to see the truth has never been clearer.

I am sure the mullahs will come up with fatwas too that this is totally sunnat e ibrahimi. Like seriously we only listen about Isaac and Ishmael and not the matriarchs.

P.s. shouldn't this be merged with " do i represent just the honor of my family" thread.

 

[Manama]

How can married woman look after her own parent when she is living with her husband at different place?

Same way the husband will do WHILE he is living with his wife at a different place?

Daughters can look after mothers but they cannot handle man who is strongly built . I remember the situation of my tall father who needed physical help in later stages of his life because his lever stop working but I have seen my mother struggling managing him without our help or without help of any man in our family Boht gender play different roles and I am not saying girls are less caring or loving but they can not handle certain tasks for example son can take father to toilet, can change his clothes, can give him shower etc

Again, children aren't caretaker of their parents, thats a toxic way of life which people think they can give birth to a bunch of kids just so they can take care of them in the old age. I don't know where this idea comes from. but it needs to end. Preferring a son over a daughter because daughters might not be able to handle the dad when he becomes sick? Have we fallen that low?

We can no longer use the excuse that both genders are required as kids because of the roles genders play. There are single moms and single dads. There are working moms and working dads. There are stay-at-home moms and stay-at-home dads. So that argument doesn't really work in current times.

There are 100+ countries on this planet. If they can move on from this primitive thinking, I'm sure we can as well

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

How ? You mean couple should keep trying naturally even if they end up with 6/7 girls in attempt of getting boy from mother nature ..

First of all baby girl isnt a curse . there is a balance of genders made by nature no need to disturb it .

 

[Dhara]

Natural balance? Let mother nature do its work .

Best reply,

I don't know much about Pakistan but in India they are killing baby girl fetuses on rampage even many states are now heavily imbalance male to female ratio, which resulted in sexual violence against women.
These type of tech not required it will ruin countries like India, Pakistan, let the mother nature to balance the planet earth.

How can married woman look after her own parent when she is living with her husband at different place?

I don't know but always found daughters at bed side of ailing parents.

Kindly once have a visit of nearby hospital.

 

[Verve]

I have come across families with 4++ girls and then finally a boy and vice versa. And those families too where the only boy (amongst girls) left the parents after he got married and the daughters are taking turns in looking after the parents. And even those who never had a boy but a really loving son-in-law (s).

Point I'm making is that we do not know what the future will be like. So I'm inclined to say 'go with what Allah has chosen for you'. Bring up the daughters as best as you can and marry them in good families with strong values and principles. Leave the 'who will look after us in old age' part to Allah, He provides for all. But do save for old age to avoid financial dependency on children.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Best reply,

I don't know much about Pakistan but in India they are killing baby girl fetuses on rampage even many states are now heavily imbalance male to female ratio, which resulted in sexual violence against women.
These type of tech not required it will ruin countries like India, Pakistan, let the mother nature to balance the planet earth.

Exactly ..
in our region ( south asia) we consider baby girl as a curse . this tech will ruin the natural balance of gender .

 

[Mughal-Prince]

How ? You mean couple should keep trying naturally even if they end up with 6/7 girls in attempt of getting boy from mother nature ..


So you are in favour that parent should not be able to choose the sex of their children especially if they already had three or four children of the same sex? Its not about just boys . Some family with 3 sons would also desire for daughter to feel their experience as well. Discrimination is not the issue in here . They are not opting for boy because they hate girls

I also gave them same lectures about morality but you can only understand them if you put yourself in their shoes and no one is blaming women in here especially not the family I am talking about. They love their daughters as well and don't consider them burden but has desire of son for some cultural reasons mentioned above. These guys know this basic science that its men who carry X and Y chromosome( which determine the gender) that's why going after this medical procedure which sort out these chromosome and its mostly mothers who have this desire of having son as well

and let say someone content with three girls and provide them good education and fulfil all their responsibilities and then they get marriage so then who will look after old parent ? Their excuse was that parent stay with sons not with daughters in old age . They also said that who will take care of family if anything happen to father and they have no son to take responsibility of mother and sisters . Look at it from Pakistani perspective

Use Boxer shorts and loose clothes
Eat Fenugreek and Fish
Take some cod liver tablets
This may increase the chances for surviving of Male chromosome to set in after Bush-Kashi !!!

 

[xairhossi]

reminds me of the movie 'Bol'.

 

[El Sidd]

The mentioned procedure basically is intended for races who are dying out due to evolution.

A look at the graph of mortality rates on birth rates suggest Europe is dying out.

I as a Muslim will willingly go for the procedure if they can make mathematical formula for free will and character manipulation possible.

Till then its just the same old animalistic traits i follow proudly.