Gen. Raheel Sharif reappears after a long time

[syedtalhamaududi]

What an absolute load of crap !!
You may worship Nawaz/PMLN all you want,
but vilifying Army/State won't get you any supporters, outside the braindead coterie of die-hard Noonis/PTM etc of course


And how exactly would a provisional provincial status for GB "legitimise" India's change of status of Occupied Kashmir??

If you had half a brain you would understand that kashmir includes GB Azad Kashmir, IOK including Jammu and Laddakh. We rejected the Indian change of status as it is all disputed territory. The Chinese sent their army.

By detaching GB from the mix, Pakistan affirms India's stance. Therefore the argument to make the LOC the international border becomes obvious. Except to you.

Now it is not a question of worshipping any one but any politial leader other than FANNY KHAN would say that is a debate for parliament. Like about entering the Yemen war on behalf of Saudi Arabia. There this proposal can be discussed or the possibility of regaining the whole territory by war.

But Fanny said 'kyah meh humla karloon'. And in reality he should. All whilst General 3 star was hiding behind his skirt.

 

[Rana4pak]

He needs to comeback and make another political party and replace ppp and give tough competition to pti. No N league or ppp

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

Sorry for your loss!

what? you have a problem with the general?

 

[TNT]

You people are known to bs without giving proofs. What's your proof regarding the numbers that you stated.

Secondly we don't have to pay anyone, Kashmiris voluntarily join our defence forces and administrative bodies to serve the country.

And as far as help is concerned, we have rescued the Maldives prez, even Americans want us in Afganistan but we aren't mercenaries like you guys who are motivated by paycheques. Even Sheik Mujibur asked us for help and even you would agree that was a helluva help that we extended to him.

So why dont u send troops to Afghanistan? Yeah u know ull be slaughtered like its bakra eid. U only can help through covert means and backstabbing, typical with ur type.
Indian govt refuses to release official numbers and a simple google can tell u its more than 600K. Why hide the numbers if its not that high??? Also why not allow UN observers? Hiding the reality of how kashmiris hate india?

 

[SecularNationalist]

A very competent general. Wish he was given extension instead of bajwa.

In his initial days as army chief people were not fond of him. In the military circles people were making fun of him. But later he proved his worth and became one of the most popular army chiefs in pakistan's history.

 

[TOPGUN]

The question on every Indian Defense Analysts mind...

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@The Eagle @Irfan Baloch @PanzerKiel

This guy looks like loser clown lolz lmao.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Saddam hussein reappears

 

[BATMAN]

what? you have a problem with the general?

According to your statement General is leading coalition in Yemen.... i assumed you are loosing vs. general.. are you not?

Gen Raheel doesn't command Saudi army nor create any strategy. All air assault are conduct by Saudi and rest of arab countries, only logistic, maintenance and satellite guidance provide by US govt per agreement.

Of course, Saudi forces under him got slaughtered at the hands of rag tag houthi rebels shows his competence.

@PakistaniAtBahrain one of you is lying.

 

[Capt. Karnage]

So why dont u send troops to Afghanistan? Yeah u know ull be slaughtered like its bakra eid. U only can help through covert means and backstabbing, typical with ur type.
Indian govt refuses to release official numbers and a simple google can tell u its more than 600K. Why hide the numbers if its not that high??? Also why not allow UN observers? Hiding the reality of how kashmiris hate india?

We don't fight someone else's war unless it directly or indirectly benefits us. Besides sending troops to Afghanistan will make Afghan people see us as aggressors and ruin all the goodwill that we have.

Secondly you are nobody to ask us about the numbers which is a classified military information.

Thirdly, UN cannot be allowed to interfere in our internal affairs. Taking this matter to un was a mistake which is now rectified as the un is no longer interested in the issue.

 

[Goritoes]

none of you actually knows what Raheel Sharief is doing with the Arab coalition but everyone is just a damn expert or has some inside information eventually.

 

[TNT]

We don't fight someone else's war unless it directly or indirectly benefits us. Besides sending troops to Afghanistan will make Afghan people see us as aggressors and ruin all the goodwill that we have.

Secondly you are nobody to ask us about the numbers which is a classified military information.

Thirdly, UN cannot be allowed to interfere in our internal affairs. Taking this matter to un was a mistake which is now rectified as the un is no longer interested in the issue.

Yes u do interfere, but not militarily as cowpiss doznt give u much courage. Afghanistan does affect u and ur decades of investment and ur puppet allies beg u but ur too scared of the taliban.
Secondly we dont care what u say or not, we have our estimates based on intelligence and ur the one saying otherwise, so u give ur official nmbrs or just shut up.
UN is there to solve issues and have a neutral view, u ran to the UN when we took half kashmir and u were shitting urself, now UN is bad? Lolz
Nations with rule of law and humanity believe in neutral observers, it also enhances their stature but i guess a nation of gutter rats have nothing to do with all that.

 

[M. Sarmad]

If you had half a brain you would understand that kashmir includes GB Azad Kashmir, IOK including Jammu and Laddakh. We rejected the Indian change of status as it is all disputed territory. The Chinese sent their army.

By detaching GB from the mix, Pakistan affirms India's stance. Therefore the argument to make the LOC the international border becomes obvious. Except to you.

Now it is not a question of worshipping any one but any politial leader other than FANNY KHAN would say that is a debate for parliament. Like about entering the Yemen war on behalf of Saudi Arabia. There this proposal can be discussed or the possibility of regaining the whole territory by war.

But Fanny said 'kyah meh humla karloon'. And in reality he should. All whilst General 3 star was hiding behind his skirt.

Let me try to educate you regarding "legal" status of GB, our clueless army hating comrade :

State Subject Rule and Gilgit Baltistan

State Subject Rule and Gilgit Baltistan India has recently revoked Article 370 and 35-A of their constitution. As far as International Law is concerned, the setting up of the J&K Constituent Assembly in Indian Occupied Kashmir itself was a violation of the UN Resolution 91 of 30, March 1951...

defence.pk

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

Let me try to educate you regarding "legal" status of GB, our clueless army hating comrade :

State Subject Rule and Gilgit Baltistan

State Subject Rule and Gilgit Baltistan India has recently revoked Article 370 and 35-A of their constitution. As far as International Law is concerned, the setting up of the J&K Constituent Assembly in Indian Occupied Kashmir itself was a violation of the UN Resolution 91 of 30, March 1951...

defence.pk

So Indian unilateral action is wrong and our unilateral action is legally ok in the eyes of the world.
Maybe that's why we loose all our international cases, because'we' know best.
To criticize the Army top brass doesn't imply hatred of the Army.
A childish and stupid argument.
The Army has a clear role and should stick to it.
I would criticize the judiciary if they tried to raise an army to fight for the country, because it's not their job.

So Indian unilateral action is wrong and our unilateral action is legally ok in the eyes of the world.
Maybe that's why we loose all our international cases, because'we' know best.
To criticize the Army top brass doesn't imply hatred of the Army.
A childish and stupid argument.
The Army has a clear role and should stick to it.
I would criticize the judiciary if they tried to raise an army to fight for the country, because it's not their job.

) Pakistan maintains that as Maharaja Hari Singh never exercised sovereignty over GB, he could not have transferred GB to India under the so-called instrument of accession as one can not transfer more rights than he possesses under International Law. So, the legal status of GB is different compared to AJK where the State Subject Rule is still strictly enforced
Note the first line, Pakistan maintains(Indians do not)

 

[M. Sarmad]

So Indian unilateral action is wrong and our unilateral action is legally ok in the eyes of the world.
Maybe that's why we loose all our international cases, because'we' know best.
To criticize the Army top brass doesn't imply hatred of the Army.
A childish and stupid argument.
The Army has a clear role and should stick to it.
I would criticize the judiciary if they tried to raise an army to fight for the country, because it's not their job.

) Pakistan maintains that as Maharaja Hari Singh never exercised sovereignty over GB, he could not have transferred GB to India under the so-called instrument of accession as one can not transfer more rights than he possesses under International Law. So, the legal status of GB is different compared to AJK where the State Subject Rule is still strictly enforced
Note the first line, Pakistan maintains(Indians do not)

That's not what's being said, read again, carefully ...

Any provisional action that does not deny the right to self-determination (in a plebiscite held under UN auspices) to the people of GB does not constitute violation of international law or UNSC resolutions. Just like the 1963 Sino-Pak boundary agreement which is provisional; pending final settlement

Indian actions on the other hand constitute a blatant violation of UNSC resolutions and international law as India has unilaterally tried to alter the status of IoK, permanently, and it's not the first time India has done it. The very articles India has repealed in Aug 2019, in fact, were in violation of Indian commitments under UN resolutions. But this time India has allowed foreigners (i.e Indian citizens from other states) to buy property and settle in Indian Occupied Kashmir; an attempt at permanently altering the demographics of the region, that's why all the fuss/reaction

Now there is no such law in force in GB region. Pakistanis can own property in GB. That's what was explained in the post which you quoted but obviously didn't bother to read/comprehend.

Maybe that's why we loose all our international cases, because'we' know best.

We are discussing Kashmir here and regardless of Indian actions/clout, Kashmir still remains a disputed territory under international law, on the agenda of UNSC as an unresolved international dispute, whose final accession to India or Pakistan remains to be decided.... No Indian win and Pakistani loss here ... Nor does that happen "always" .. Self-loathing Pakistanis like you are a curse on this nation

To criticize the Army top brass doesn't imply hatred of the Army.
A childish and stupid argument.

There of course is nothing wrong in criticising Army top brass
But your posts reek of hatred against the entire institution..
You are not criticising Army, you are trying to malign it just because your political gods are doing the same.
Try to be honest at least

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

That's not what's being said, read again, carefully ...

Any provisional action that does not deny the right to self-determination (in a plebiscite held under UN auspices) to the people of GB does not constitute violation of international law or UNSC resolutions. Just like the 1963 Sino-Pak boundary agreement which is provisional; pending final settlement

Indian actions on the other hand constitute a blatant violation of UNSC resolutions and international law as India has unilaterally tried to alter the status of IoK, permanently, and it's not the first time India has done it. The very articles India has repealed in Aug 2019, in fact, were in violation of Indian commitments under UN resolutions. But this time India has allowed foreigners (i.e Indian citizens from other states) to buy property and settle in Indian Occupied Kashmir; an attempt at permanently altering the demographics of the region, that's why all the fuss/reaction

Now there is no such law in force in GB region. Pakistanis can own property in GB. That's what was explained in the post which you quoted but obviously didn't bother to read/comprehend.


We are discussing Kashmir here and regardless of Indian actions/clout, Kashmir still remains a disputed territory under international law, on the agenda of UNSC as an unresolved international dispute, whose final accession to India or Pakistan remains to be decided.... No Indian win and Pakistani loss here ... Nor does that happen "always" .. Self-loathing Pakistanis like you are a curse on this nation




There of course is nothing wrong in criticising Army top brass
But your posts reek of hatred against the entire institution..
You are not criticising Army, you are trying to malign it just because your political gods are doing the same.
Try to be honest at least

I hope you are correct and I am wrong, in my eyes the top brass Is self serving and puts their individual interest before the country, like Musharraf, Raheel Shareef and now Bajwa.
Why was Bajwa running around the courts to secure his extension, was it for Pakistan.
Raheel Shareef living life large in Riyadh and Musharraf retiring in Dubai after being COAS, President and Chief Executive. Again these actions malign the institution.
Why don't the Chiefs from other countries do the same.