Gen. Raheel Sharif reappears after a long time

[Enigma SIG]

Only guys in uniform salute..Not others.

Which I know, therefore my question, what is his actual role there? Consultant for the forces?

 

[alibaz]

A very competent general. Wish he was given extension instead of bajwa.

Dear extension never proved good for anyone. May it be Musharraf, Kiyani or even the present one. Had Kiyani left after three years he would have been remembered for long but he chose extension and rest is the history. Bajwa got extension, first Khosa settled his score through a randi application and later people like Diesel and kids like Bill owl and Nani 420 had cheeks and guts to ooze filth against him, Faiz and establishment as whole. I think this extension business must not be allowed in rules of business.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

How sad this is. A Pakistan ARMY COAS should not ever by employed by any other country. In effect his services have been bought by a foreign country. It really puts the prefix 'banana' to country Pakistan. Think about this. The COAS was chief of Pakistan Army who expected young boys to take bullets for lousy few thousand rupees. Under his tenure many were asked and died fighting. Compared to them COAS financial benefits are huge. He should have just retired and played golf in some posh estate.

This is exactly how foreign powers buy Pakistani elite. We already are aware of politicians being bought out. You saw how Saudia pushed Musharaf to be released and then got refuge in KSA. We already know about senior civilian officials who often buy property abroad and then send their children abroad. When they retire they also ship out. All this creates huge conflict of interest. Now even the military is being poached.

Think of it tis way. The next COAS might also want a cushy number in KSA, UAE, Bahran etc after he retires.Could that prospect dangling in front of him effect his responsibilities and policies while he is the COAS. Make up your mind about that.

Raheel was great soldier but he let Pakistan down. He ought not to have been given permission by the government but with Shari'fs in power what else did you expect?

 

[KaiserX]

How sad this is. A Pakistan ARMY COAS should not ever by employed by any other country. In effect his services have been bought by a foreign country. It really puts the prefix 'banana' to country Pakistan. Think about this. The COAS was chief of Pakistan Army who expected young boys to take bullets for lousy few thousand rupees. Under his tenure many were asked and died fighting. Compared to them COAS financial benefits are huge. He should have just retired and played golf in some posh estate.

This is exactly how foreign powers buy Pakistani elite. We already are aware of politicians being bought out. You saw how Saudia pushed Musharaf to be released and then got refuge in KSA. We already know about senior civilian officials who often buy property abroad and then send their children abroad. When they retire they also ship out. All this creates huge conflict of interest. Now even the military is being poached.

Think of it tis way. The next COAS might also want a cushy number in KSA, UAE, Bahran etc after he retires.Could that prospect dangling in front of him effect his responsibilities and policies while he is the COAS. Make up your mind about that.

Raheel was great soldier but he let Pakistan down. He ought not to have been given permission by the government but with Shari'fs in power what else did you expect?

Agreed. If it wasnt for Bajwas sheer incompetance then no one would even remember RS esp after he gave his services to the likes of MBS

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Agreed. If it wasnt for Bajwas sheer incompetance then no one would even remember RS esp after he gave his services to the likes of MBS

I dont, neccessarily agree wit you about Bajwas incompetence. I mean do we know enough to be able to make a informed decision? Maybe you might have access to information that points to Bajwa's lack of ability but I have not heard or read about this. Often media makes heroes. I think generals who just quitely get along with their job is a good thing. And from what I have know that is what Bajwa has done.

Unless of course you know something I don't in which case I would be delighted if you could share it with us.

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

Dear extension never proved good for anyone. May it be Musharraf, Kiyani or even the present one. Had Kiyani left after three years he would have been remembered for long but he chose extension and rest is the history. Bajwa got extension, first Khosa settled his score through a randi application and later people like Diesel and kids like Bill owl and Nani 420 had cheeks and guts to ooze filth against him, Faiz and establishment as whole. I think this extension business must not be allowed in rules of business.

The entire story started when Raheel Shareef asked for and didn't receive an extension. Then the vendetta started against NS. The establishment, its top generals are less patriotic than all the politicians. It's all about self service. Once the general public understand the better the country will become

The entire story started when Raheel Shareef asked for and didn't receive an extension. Then the vendetta started against NS. The establishment, its top generals are less patriotic than all the politicians. It's all about self service. Once the general public understand the better the country will become

They launched Rad Al Nawaz

 

[Indus Pakistan]

The entire story started when Raheel Shareef asked for and didn't receive an extension. Then the vendetta started against NS. The establishment, its top generals are less patriotic than all the politicians. It's all about self service. Once the general public understand the better the country will become

I would not tarnish the entire institution for some of the rotten eggs. RS has long gone why would the institution be sore about that? Extensions by the way are not good for rest of the brass as it blocks upward prospects. When a general get's extension by definition the tier below him will lose out as non stand a chance to make it to COAS as by the time the slots opens they will have been retired.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

What a strange situation for India?!?! Whatever geo-political policy shifts occur they come to Pak's favor!!!!!

Cry Hindutva/RSS/BJP/Congress etc. cry.....

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

I would not tarnish the entire institution for some of the rotten eggs. RS has long gone why would the institution be sore about that? Extensions by the way are not good for rest of the brass as it blocks upward prospects. When a general get's extension by definition the tier below him will lose out as non stand a chance to make it to COAS as by the time the slots opens they will have been retired.

You are quite right, using rational logic, but if you have a God syndrome then you need to teach the bloody civilians a lesson. This is institutional memory. Believe me this is not just off the cuff but RS asked twice for an extension. Extensions are actually damaging for the army,however the top brass doesn't care.
They are the ones pushing for this government ( I use the term very loosely) to come to a status quo agreement with India Vis e vi Kashmir. This is why Bajwa held the meeting about Gilgit Baltistan, if this becomes a province then it legitimises India's change of status of occupied Kashmir. Similarly Bajwa and co sent feelers to Tel Aviv, sending SMQ and AS Bajwa there very recently and one other.
They are always manoeuvring behind the scenes using the noise against politicians.

 

[BATMAN]

Which I know, therefore my question, what is his actual role there? Consultant for the forces?

What is this... consultant for the forces?

Agreed. If it wasnt for Bajwas sheer incompetance then no one would even remember RS esp after he gave his services to the likes of MBS

What service to MBS and what's your beef with MBS?

 

[BATMAN]

I noticed he isn't saluting when everyone is, seems to be in a civ role. What sort of role is he actually playing in the "coalition"?

He is a man with self esteem.

Presidency is a ceremonial office.

Why than a poor country waste billions annually on ceremonial paraphernalia?

 

[BATMAN]

A very competent general. Wish he was given extension instead of bajwa.

He refused extension. This is why he's not Bajwa!

 

[alibaz]

The entire story started when Raheel Shareef asked for and didn't receive an extension. Then the vendetta started against NS. The establishment, its top generals are less patriotic than all the politicians. It's all about self service. Once the general public understand the better the country will become

Dear Sir please refrain from making statement about something basing on what Sharifs say and you don't have credible information. They were too eager to give him one year extension so that one of their relative comes to required seniority thats why General Raheel publicly refused extension 8 months prior to his retirement.

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

Dear Sir please refrain from making statement about something basing on what Sharifs say and you don't have credible information. They were too eager to give him one year extension so that one of their relative comes to required seniority thats why General Raheel publicly refused extension 8 months prior to his retirement.

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Dear Sir please refrain from making statement about something basing on what Sharifs say and you don't have credible information. They were too eager to give him one year extension so that one of their relative comes to required seniority thats why General Raheel publicly refused extension 8 months prior to his retirement.

Sir, I respect your opinion. Sometimes there is more than one truth

 

[alibaz]

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Sir, I respect your opinion. Sometimes there is more than one truth

Dear Sir you are right that there are more than one truth on this issue, unfortunately other truths will further show ugly side of MNS. Believe me I have knowledge about those as well but I don't intend mentioning any further