Gen. Bajwa, save Pakistan by a military takeover

[countryman]

Bullshit! I love our army, I respect them but no thanks I'm not up for dictatorship - who rules the public should surely be the decision of public. This is our lack of tolerance the induces us think like that but such thing doesn't make nations - they only take us away. Imposing something on others have never worked. People don't join army because of their lust for power - they shield their country as sacred duty. I don't think army should step in unless there is dire need for law enforcement like civil war but even in that situation army should create democratic environment for decision making.

PS: No offence, but I've some advice for you. Learn some tolerance, get used to listening others and learn to coexist.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Looks like i hit a raw nerve here
@The Sandman

You would think that wouldn't you? Just like the rest of the illogical thought process. Let me be very clear so you can hear it from me directly and there are no ambiguities left. If, after ready my statements, you still have conspiracy theories like the rest of you guys do, well, that's your own head requiring some fixing.

My post has nothing to do with any political leader in Pakistan. I have written about the Chinese and Russian communism and have strong opinions about them, similarly, the new nationalist movement in India as well.

So when I make statements, its not supporting anyone. Its based on facts. In Pakistan's case, the case is 50 years old when you had the first dictator take over. That has run inside Pakistan's blood and it has ruined her. I don't care about the names, or who is or isn't in a scandal or in court. I do care about one thing, the poor people in Pakistan, the 150 million or so, in the middle class and below it.

No matter how much hate you have for one another, it should never get to a point where its damaging your country. The idea behind an elected government is for people to sit down in the Parliament and fix issues there. Any progress being made for any country shouldn't be stopped. If I am criticizing anyone, its because of their conduct. Not my personal feelings. I think this whole sh!t from all sides is low class. But regardless, my stance is, the real benefactor of a system are its people. Any growth and projects being done for the people should never be stopped, put at the risk of stopping or investors to be scared off of investing in Pakistan. Everything else, I could care less if these idiots go kill themselves inside a room. As long as the people and the growth of a country isn't impacted, I don't care. I hope this explains to you my stance. I am done responding to useless posts so this was my final word for you. You are welcome to run your brain and find conspiracy theories. I am used to reading these things on here.

 

[truthseer]

Army has sold out or they'd have taken over.

Or PTI is wrong

I know which I believe, I love our army.

 

[Zibago]

Army has sold out or they'd have taken over.

Or PTI is wrong

I know which I believe, I love our army.

Jab thakur ney phenti lagayi thi to yahi army punjabi ban gayi thi

 

[Kabira]

Rest assured we will not leave him in peace ... NS first is as he is in power and he was hampering the process ... if NS was honest he should have started accountability of Zardari as promissedbin his election campaign ...

Brother zardari and NS are same from inside and if IK join the suit then he will be facing same accountability ...

We should start calling thief a thief even if he is my brother ...

Zardari is next and same should be the fate of all corrupt politicians beuarrcreats and generals including those joining PTI for escaping accountability ...

PTI love to give tickets to rich people, nothing wrong with it if you are rich. But look at Karachi PTI PS-114 candidate, he most have "donated" millions to PTI fund and got ticket. it boggles my mind why rich people would even enter politics, reasons are obvious. 2 things needs to happen in Pakistan for real accountability

1. Pakistan politics need to get rid of rich people from get go. Don't give tickets to rich candidate.
2. Keep close eye on finances of MNA who suddenly become rich after winning. Like many from MQM so called middle class workers.

Pakistani public should be represented by people who are like them and not 1% elite like Zardari, Imran, Nawaz etc

This should be the goal in next 30 years. At least in urban areas candidates should come from middle class and then keep close eye on them after they win.

 

[The Accountant]

PTI love to give tickets to rich people, nothing wrong with it if you are rich. But look at Karachi PTI PS-114 candidate, he most have "donated" millions to PTI fund and got ticket. it boggles my mind why rich people would even enter politics, reasons are obvious. 2 things needs to happen in Pakistan for real accountability

1. Pakistan politics need to get rid of rich people from get go. Don't give tickets to rich candidate.
2. Keep close eye on finances of MNA who suddenly become rich after winning. Like many from MQM so called middle class workers.

Pakistani public should be represented by people who are like them and not 1% elite like Zardari, Imran, Nawaz etc

This should be the goal in next 30 years. At least in urban areas candidates should come from middle class and then keep close eye on them after they win.

Agreed but the issue is election is an expensive affair ... they have made it so to make sure that the game remains within the few elites ...

Look what they did to MQM during Mustafa Kamal . When MQM tries to get rid of millitant wing and was trying to oerform politically PPP created aman committe and drag mqm back to that black hole ...

Look at Jamsheed Dasti . He made him in example for speaking against NS only because he was from middle class ...

But now enough us enough we need educated devoted and honest people ... i hate PPP but admir current chief minister as he is working on Karachi just like Mustafa Kamal did ...

So there is need to admire performance without regards to political affiliation and there is a need to crush corruption, lies, dishonesty disregarding political affiliation only then system of accountability starts and Pakistan and its people will start progressing ...

 

[Kabira]

Agreed but the issue is election is an expensive affair ... they have made it so to make sure that the game remains within the few elites ...

Look what they did to MQM during Mustafa Kamal . When MQM tries to get rid of millitant wing and was trying to oerform politically PPP created aman committe and drag mqm back to that black hole ...

Look at Jamsheed Dasti . He made him in example for speaking against NS only because he was from middle class ...

But now enough us enough we need educated devoted and honest people ... i hate PPP but admir current chief minister as he is working on Karachi just like Mustafa Kamal did ...

So there is need to admire performance without regards to political affiliation and there is a need to crush corruption, lies, dishonesty disregarding political affiliation only then system of accountability starts and Pakistan and its people will start progressing ...

There is no point in admiring few individuals in ganda nala, they are part of problem. Jamati Islami is only true democratic party.

1. No family leader, anyone can become chairman or PM if they win election. They don't need much money to run campaign.
2. Their candidates are not filthy rich.
3. Even in Karachi they seem to have kept pan ethnic vote base.

Problem is because of being Islamic not many people vote for them in fear of talibanization and mullahzation of Pakistan.

 

[The Accountant]

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There is no point in admiring few individuals in ganda nala, they are part of problem. Jamati Islami is only true democratic party.

1. No family leader, anyone can become chairman or PM if they win election. They don't need much money to run campaign.
2. Their candidates are not filthy rich.
3. Even in Karachi they seem to have kept pan ethnic vote base.

Problem is because of being Islamic not many people vote for them in fear of talibanization and mullahzation of Pakistan.

Brother if we dont admire good deeds of few people then how would those few people will be encouraged ... brother ideal but difficult way to change thing is to support good deeds of the people within the system otherwise we will move towards bloody revolution ...

Regarding jamat ... i agree most of them are middle class and corruption free people but there is a baic issue at core ... they are basically a religious party who are also doing politics so when it comes to administration they are imcompetent ... they dont have any competent person to become finance minister, foreign minister interior minister ...

I thought a lot about it ... jamat.e.islami could be a party of our dreams while remaining relugious but the only way to do this is to stop focusing on religious scholars and masjid lot only but start focusing on professionals who are religious compiiant too ... for example there are alot of individuals expert in their field not religious scholars but are fully compliant with all fraiz ... jamat.e.islami needs to includes those in their ranks only then they can be successful administrator and can run Pakistan and win elections ... otherwise they will just remain religious scholars and students who are also doing some politics

 

[tarrar]

Seeing that politicians are devoid of any vision for Pakistan; they are selfish, narrow minded and probably serving the agenda of our enemies. It is in the best interest of Pakistani people to rescue them in these times when our enemies are buckling up against us, collaborating with America and Israel. Economy is not impressive, with filthiest criminals ruling in Sindh, Jewish assets ruling KP, and maneuvering industrialists ruling Punjab and the Centre with a soft corner for our sworn enemy.

I fully agree with you as these bastard politicians both ganja league & gadari party are pushing Pakistan towards only ruins, chaos & anarchy. They have not even once defended Pakistan on international forms & gatherings even once, all we hear from them is controlled scripts which does not expose the foreign enemy one bit.

It is now a well known fact that ganja & gadari both are serving US agenda & till date are lying naked in front of US & are completely mute on valid Indian issues & their non stop terrorism support against Pakistan. It is now clear that the reason why PA is unable to achieve 100% victory against foreign rented terrorists is because the politicians have become obstacle in the way of success as by protecting rented terrorist these corrupt politicians are able to achieve their own interests.

Secret meetings with Modi, his bastards & under table deal with US is a clear proof they are only serving their interests & theses bastards are nothing but National Security threat to Pakistan. I hope Gen, Bajwa somewhere in the corner of his mind is thinking good for Pakistan but it is unlikely as a powerful Gen. Raheel Sharif was quiet too & didn't take over. As a Pakistani I pray for the safety of Pakistan & pray for the end of Gaanja & Gadari party once & for all. Pakistan is our home & we should do what we can to protect it, for every single Pakistan loving citizen Pakistan should always come first.