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Gen Ayub, Zia, Musharaf, whose policies were better

whose policies were better for Pakistan

  • Gen ayub khan

    Votes: 21 38.9%
  • Gen Zia-ul-Haq

    Votes: 14 25.9%
  • Gen Pervaiz Musharaf

    Votes: 19 35.2%

  • Total voters
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it isn't in my nature to comment on such sensitive topics ---but i can't help it


my answer would be Gen. Ayub Khan ---prior to 1965. He represents everything I see as a leader Pakistan needs.

Wherever he went, people adored him. Results show. He delivered. He was a true nationalist, and a beacon of light for a young Pakistan.


But mistakes were made. Lets just leave it at that.
 
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although army is not best for govt especially with reference to pak.but my vote goes to general zia because of his islamic policies.:azn:

yeah an inflow of Afghans and drugs.......and importation of a "culture" not native to Pakistan.


His foreign policy was genius. His policies at home are still costing us.

As a civilian, I say there was nothing at all "Islamic" about what Gen. Zia saab brought to Pakistan.

But I do respect some of his legacy. He did some very good things. But based on simple mathematics, and cost-benefit analysis he cost us in the unforseeable long run.

The sectarian violence which haunted Pakistan in early 1990s are an example of the externalities of his policies. But also at the same time, we take huge pride in the fact that we helped bring about the end to communist Soviet Union; and we helped liberate Afghanistan from goddam soviet army.
 
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it isn't in my nature to comment on such sensitive topics ---but i can't help it


my answer would be Gen. Ayub Khan ---prior to 1965. He represents everything I see as a leader Pakistan needs.

Wherever he went, people adored him. Results show. He delivered. He was a true nationalist, and a beacon of light for a young Pakistan.


But mistakes were made. Lets just leave it at that.


thank you for your participation and voting. i really appreciate it.

can i humbly request you to please put some light on Gen Ayub khan s policies for the betterment of Pakistan.

i am not negating with your comments or with your opinion, since i do not know about gen ayub much, i just want to know his vision and policies a little better.

thanks in advance

best regards
 
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thank you for your participation and voting. i really appreciate it.

can i humbly request you to please put some light on Gen Ayub khan s policies for the betterment of Pakistan.

i am not negating with your comments or with your opinion, since i do not know about gen ayub much, i just want to know his vision and policies a little better.

thanks in advance

best regards

SO,

Have been observing the manner in which you have been replying to posts beyond the purview of the subject laid down by you .

My compliments on your manners & patience shown.
 
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SO,

Have been observing the manner in which you have been replying to posts beyond the purview of the subject laid down by you .

My compliments on your manners & patience shown.


thank you very much, third eye

i am honored to read your compliments. Although it is not me but our member s good manners who are contributing to this thread that kept this thread and this poll going. My thumbs up for our PDF members:tup::tup:

profound regards
 
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thank you for your participation and voting. i really appreciate it.

can i humbly request you to please put some light on Gen Ayub khan s policies for the betterment of Pakistan.

i am not negating with your comments or with your opinion, since i do not know about gen ayub much, i just want to know his vision and policies a little better.

thanks in advance

best regards


infrastructure projects.....emphasis on sustainable growth....emphasis on agriculture, even if it meant subsidies on crops cultivation, tractors etc. (we are doomed if we neglect our 'holy' agriculture in Pakistan)....industrialization and creating incentives for long and short-term FDI.....capital/banking sector reforms.....a progressive "Secular Islamic" outlook.......emphasis on the importance of gender equality and minority empowerment not to mention his understanding of the importance for effective population growth controls....strong relations-building with China before it was even a major economic player.....


those are at the top of my head.


I just relate to him the most. As superficial as this sounds, he was charismatic ---every single international leader adored him because of his wit, sagacity, and good natured humour.

I respect the fact that he was a good hunter and marksman, and that he jotted down ideas whenever they came to his head

(read Ayub Khan Diaries if you havent already).



As a War-time leader, some mistakes were made. I'd rather not go into that. But pre-1965 --- Gen Ayub Khan was beacon of light for Pakistani nation.




In fact, to show how much I appreciate him -- I am uploading pictures I took --of pictures from the book "Ayub Khan Diaries" (Oxford Univ. Press, Edited by Craig Baxter).

It was a hell of a tedious task, but these pictures are not available on internet --and I was very keen and wanting to share them.



At the Royal Military College, Sandhurst, 1927. Ayub Khan is seen sitting in front row on right.

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Lt. Colonel Commanding 15/16 Punjab Regiment, Landi Kotal, Khyber Pass, 1946

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In Dhaka cantonment with Quaid-e-Azem Saab and Ms. Fatima Jinnah

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With family at the Army House. Sons Akhtar and Gohar are not in the picture as they were at PMA Kakul and Sandhurst respectively.



Partying at the Officers Mess

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Coversing with the new indian high commissioner after the credential ceremony at Karachi

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Walking with Quaid-e-Azam Saab towards the Saluting Base on his arrival at Dhaka Airport, end of March 1948

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Paying homage at Mustafa Kemal Ataturk's mausoleum, Ankara Turkey. Major General Iskander Mirza is seen on the left.

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Relaxing in an aircraft

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With President Cemal Gürsel of Turkey

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Witnessing Turkish Army Manoeuvers

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President Heinrich Lubke of Germany, his wife Madame Lubke, Ayub Khan, Zeb and Gohar Ayub in Karachi

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At the opening of Warsak Dam.

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Inspecting Kaptai Dam in E. Pakistan



Inaugurating Ayub Bridge at Sukkur

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Inaugurating Taunsa Barrage

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Addressing a meeting held to lay the foundation for the new Federal Capital Islamabad on Shakarparian Hill



Looking at and admiring the site of the future capital, Islamabad



Being received by Mrs. Sirimavo Bandranaika, the Prime Minister of Sri Lanka, at Columbo

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With Emperor Hirohito and Empress Nagako (aka Empress Kojun) in Tokyo, Japan

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Being received by King Saud of Saudi Arabia

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Touching the Hajra-e-Aswad

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Coming out of the Holy Kaaba

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Witnessing a drill by the Saudi cadets with King Saud

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Presenting a 'rose' to pandit nehru :lol:



Travelling in the royal carriage with King Mahendra of Nepal



With King Mahendra in the royal palace

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With the Prime Minister of Canada, John Diefenbaker.

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With the President of Ireland, Eamon De Valera.

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Riding in a motorcade with Prime Minister Chou En-lai.

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With Chairman Mao Tse-tung.

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At a banquet hosted by PM Chou En-lai. Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto is seen on the far right.

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Watching military demonstrations with PM Chou En-lai

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King Hussein of Jordan and his young son Prince Abdullah meeting Ayub Khan. Prince Abdullah is presently King of Jordan.

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King Hussein, HRH Princess Muna el-Hussein, Ayub Khan and his daughter, Naseem Aurangzeb

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With Sheikh Abdullah

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With Governer Amir Mohammad Khan and Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

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Receiving the President of Indonesia, Dr. Achmad Soekarno

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Taking a salute at Kabul airport with king zahir shah of Afghanistan

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Addressing the first cabinet meeting after the Martial Law

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With President Camille Chamoun of Lebanon

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Embracing President Celal Bayar of Turkey

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Conversing with Prince Karim Aga Khan

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Laying the foundation stone of Quaid-e-Azam Saab's Mausoleum

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Inaugurating the Bab-e-Khyber :smitten:

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With President General Gamal Abdel Nasser in Cairo, Egypt

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With Gamal Abdel Nasser and Anwar Sadat in Cairo



With Prince Phillip and Queen Elizabeth. Inspecting the guard of honour presented by the Scots Guards

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Meeting Prime Minister Harold Wilson at 10 Downing Street

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Riding in the state carriage with Queen Elizabeth, on the way to Buckingham Palace

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Commonwealth Heads of State & Government with the Queen. Ayub Khan is seen on the far right.

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The last ticker tape parade in New York City, for Ayub Khan

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Enjoying a polo match with President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1959.

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Being received by President John F. Kennedy and First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy on arrival at Andrews Air Force Base, Washington, 1961

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Ayub Khan's motorcade moving up 14th Street, Washington D.C.

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Travelling in a convertible Cadillac with President Kennedy

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At a dinner, hosted by UN Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold, in New York

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With President John F. Kennedy and Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson

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With First Lady, Jacqueline Kennedy

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President Johnson at the helm of his speedboat, with Ayub Khan on the left

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Giving President Johnson a 'friendly slap'

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Relaxing at the Ziarat Residency

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Meeting Chairman Anastas Mikoyanof, President of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR

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With Russian Premier Alexsai Kosygin, in Moscow

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Holding talks with the Russian leadership

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Visiting the Tank Academy in Moscow

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Inspecting a Russian tank in Moscow

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Accepting a copy of the Holy Quran written by Hazrat Usman (RA) from the Grand Mufti of Central Asia and Kazakhstan, in Tashkent Uzbekistan

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Hunting pheasants outside Moscow



Addressing the Pakistani Nation on the outbreak of the 1965 War, as Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto looks on

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Having tea with Lt. General Habibullah Khan

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Fishing near Naran

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With the Shah of Iran, in Tehran

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Recuperating after a major heart attack

 
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