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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

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And whoever has anything to say.
I find it hard that the level of fake information and manipulation is allowed here. @sammuel keeps manipulating and spreading fake informations, and everytime he is confronted he just runs away.
I accept different point of views, but I don’t accept dedicated fake news and manipulation i a place like this which is supposed to be serious and high level.

Please fix
Second this.

This is fact and muslims will realize it only when knife is under there neck

 
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Correct. And Germans for decades after WW 2, had a Russian problem due to the war that killed so many Russians/Soviets. Germans were apologetic and even soft about Russians due to the historic guilt. Even when the Ukraine war was starting, Germany didn't want to be too involved and tried to deny military aid. But eventually the influence Americans have over its European vassals is too much to resist and so Germans too fell in line.
This Hamas-Israel conflict has proved one thing ........ Israel is cakewalk for any little better armed men of few thousand...
 
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And since when were you an expert in Middle Eastern politics?
since you proved you weren't? Compared to you i'm definitely an expert in middle east politics.

But on a real note, i am not an expert in middle eastern politics, i'm an expert on knowing what is right for and in middle eastern politics. You should try to improve your knowledge instead of buying 1000% of KSA's or Israel's propaganda with no scrutiny.
 
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Civilians should move west of Khan Younis, says government adviser​

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Palestinians look at the damage to a building after an Israeli strike in Khan Yunis on 18 November 2023

Three days after Israel dropped leaflets to warn people to leave Khan Younis, another warning to evacuate the city has been issued.

Khan Younis is the largest city in southern Gaza - where hundreds of thousands of people fled to after being told to evacuate the north.

As the humanitarian crisis is worsening in the packed city, Israel’s warnings suggested military operations there were imminent.

Mark Regev, an advisor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told US media while Israeli troops would have to go into the city to destroy Hamas tunnels and bunkers, people in Khan Younis could move west, “Where hopefully there will be tents and a field hospital”.

“I’m pretty sure that they won’t have to move again” if they moved west, he said.
 
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Your own cnn reporter says explicitly "the evidence is.. lost".

In other words, just empty claims.



On the day of the 7 of october massacre , they where 1400 butchered Isrealis laying on the fields as well as about the same numbers of hamas terroists.

It took days to recover and identify the bodies,

Rape test kits that the police uses in such cases where not relevant cause of the state of the bodies and the time past . ( maximun for such kits is 48 hours. )

But there was no need , enoguh pictures of woman half naked who where clearly raped , not going to go into details or post such images here and parade them like Hamas paraded dead bodies on pick up trucks . . .

Enough of them on line , go fish.




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Police start building Oct. 7 rape cases, focusing on footage and testimonies


‘Not a traditional rape investigation’: Police say they have multiple witnesses, are focusing on gathering circumstantial evidence as physical proof gleaned from bodies is limited


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have arrived since the start of the war with Hamas, October 13, 2023. (Nati Shohat/Flash90)

Israeli police investigators are currently building several sexual assault cases against Gazan terrorists who participated in the massacres in southern Israel on October 7, with the goal of eventually trying the perpetrators for rape and other crimes.
“We have multiple witnesses for several cases” of sexual abuse, said David Katz, who heads cyber crime at Lahav 433, the Israel Police’s criminal investigation division.
In addition to witness testimony, Katz and police spokespeople said Tuesday, the police have video evidence, testimony from terrorists, and photographs of victims’ bodies that all point toward sexual assault.

Speaking to journalists at the National Police Academy in Beit Shemesh, the officials confirmed Hebrew media reports that Lahav 433 is collecting evidence of Hamas atrocities in preparation for criminal prosecution.

The police would not disclose the number of witness testimonies or active sexual assault cases being investigated. Five weeks after Israel’s largest-ever mass casualty event, Katz said that the police still expect months more work before completing their investigation and shifting toward indictments.

The sexual violence investigation is part of a larger push by Lahav 433 to put together cases of murder, torture and other atrocities committed on October 7. Most details of the investigations are currently under a gag order.

The police confirmed a Times of Israel investigation that found physical evidence of sexual assault was broadly not collected from October 7 victims, amid the still ongoing need to identify bodies and complications posed by an active warzone.

Rape kits, which have a 48-hour window to be collected after an assault, were not prioritized. “In the first 48 hours, there was still an active combat zone” across much of southern Israel, Dean Elsdunne, a police spokesperson, said Tuesday.

“We did gather photographic evidence,” Elsdunne said, taken by forensic workers at the emergency morgue set up at the Shura military base, where the majority of the 1,200 killed on October 7 were taken for identification.

“We have detailed photos of the bodies of victims, and everything is being put together,” Elsdunne said.

Many bodies arriving at Shura were in such bad condition that collecting physical evidence of sexual assault, such as semen or DNA samples, was not possible.

Mirit Ben Mayor, who leads communications for the Israel Police, said that investigating the October 7 crimes “is not a traditional rape investigation.”

Much of the state’s case will rest on “circumstantial evidence,” she said, adding that “it’s enough to indict someone by that.”

Based on “the conditions of the bodies that came in, bodies in the field, by the stories people are telling, by the situation of the bodies that arrived for forensic checking at Shura,” Ben Mayor said, “we say that there was rape, that there was sexual harassment. There is no room for doubt about these events.”

Police Commissioner Kobi Shabtai similarly said that the police’s ongoing investigation has yielded “evidence indicating rape [and] amputation of organs,” including breasts.

“Many of the victims who survived the massacres are not ready to speak,” Shabtai said.

Ben Mayor said that she was not aware of October 7 rape survivors having made formal complaints to the police.

The Israel Police screened short clips Tuesday of footage gathered from Hamas bodycams, victim dashboard cameras, social media, and cell phones, showing partially clothed, dead women and charred remains of victims who had been bound before they were burned alive.

In one video, a woman is unclothed from the waist down, with her underpants hanging off one thigh. She is lying face down and is dead. In another, a mutilated dead woman has her dress hitched up to her waist, with no underpants.

The police, which arranged a closed-door screening for journalists, said that these videos indicated sexual assault.

“Many of the victims were in conditions too severe to identify, naked, and with clear signs of sexual assault,” read a caption accompanying a gruesome clip of several corpses, in various states of disrobement, stacked in outdoor piles.

The police also screened a segment of what they said was testimony from a survivor of Hamas’s attack on a large outdoor festival, where over 260 — mostly young adults — were killed.

Identified only as “Witness S.,” the survivor said she had seen terrorists gang-raping, mutilating and then murdering a young partygoer.

“He is here raping her,” S. was videotaped saying, “and then they pass her on to another person.” The terrorists were dressed in olive green uniforms, she added. The police showed video evidence that several Hamas terrorists had posed as Israel Defense Forces soldiers in order to get close to victims.

Confirming that the victim had still been alive during the rape, S. said that “she stood on her feet, she was bleeding from her back.”

Next, said S., one of the terrorists “slices her breast and throws it on the road, and they’re playing with it.”

“Afterwards,” S. continued, “someone really penetrates her and shoots her in the head before he finishes. It’s not like he ejaculates and picks up his pants… He shoots her in the head while he’s still inside of her,” she said.

Ben Mayor confirmed that police have identified the rape victim in this incident, now deceased.

The police declined to say how many rape cases are being looked into.

Police are working on developing “a case against every terrorist, every Hamas member” in custody, Katz said, for the broader set of atrocities committed on October 7.

Katz said that there are “a few hundred” October 7 terrorists in Israeli custody.



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On the day of the 7 of october massacre , they where 1400 butchered Isrealis laying on the fields as well as about the same numbers of hamas terroists.

It took days to recover and identify the bodies,

Rape test kits that the police uses in such cases where not relevant cause of the state of the bodies and the time past . ( maximun for such kits is 48 hours. )

But there was no need , enoguh pictures of woman half naked who where clearly raped , not going to go into details or post such images here and parade them like Hamas paraded dead bodies on pick up trucks . . .

Enough of them on line , go fish.




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Police start building Oct. 7 rape cases, focusing on footage and testimonies


‘Not a traditional rape investigation’: Police say they have multiple witnesses, are focusing on gathering circumstantial evidence as physical proof gleaned from bodies is limited


F231013NS25-640x400.jpg


have arrived since the start of the war with Hamas, October 13, 2023. (Nati Shohat/Flash90)

Israeli police investigators are currently building several sexual assault cases against Gazan terrorists who participated in the massacres in southern Israel on October 7, with the goal of eventually trying the perpetrators for rape and other crimes.
“We have multiple witnesses for several cases” of sexual abuse, said David Katz, who heads cyber crime at Lahav 433, the Israel Police’s criminal investigation division.
In addition to witness testimony, Katz and police spokespeople said Tuesday, the police have video evidence, testimony from terrorists, and photographs of victims’ bodies that all point toward sexual assault.

Speaking to journalists at the National Police Academy in Beit Shemesh, the officials confirmed Hebrew media reports that Lahav 433 is collecting evidence of Hamas atrocities in preparation for criminal prosecution.

The police would not disclose the number of witness testimonies or active sexual assault cases being investigated. Five weeks after Israel’s largest-ever mass casualty event, Katz said that the police still expect months more work before completing their investigation and shifting toward indictments.

The sexual violence investigation is part of a larger push by Lahav 433 to put together cases of murder, torture and other atrocities committed on October 7. Most details of the investigations are currently under a gag order.

The police confirmed a Times of Israel investigation that found physical evidence of sexual assault was broadly not collected from October 7 victims, amid the still ongoing need to identify bodies and complications posed by an active warzone.

Rape kits, which have a 48-hour window to be collected after an assault, were not prioritized. “In the first 48 hours, there was still an active combat zone” across much of southern Israel, Dean Elsdunne, a police spokesperson, said Tuesday.

“We did gather photographic evidence,” Elsdunne said, taken by forensic workers at the emergency morgue set up at the Shura military base, where the majority of the 1,200 killed on October 7 were taken for identification.

“We have detailed photos of the bodies of victims, and everything is being put together,” Elsdunne said.

Many bodies arriving at Shura were in such bad condition that collecting physical evidence of sexual assault, such as semen or DNA samples, was not possible.

Mirit Ben Mayor, who leads communications for the Israel Police, said that investigating the October 7 crimes “is not a traditional rape investigation.”

Much of the state’s case will rest on “circumstantial evidence,” she said, adding that “it’s enough to indict someone by that.”

Based on “the conditions of the bodies that came in, bodies in the field, by the stories people are telling, by the situation of the bodies that arrived for forensic checking at Shura,” Ben Mayor said, “we say that there was rape, that there was sexual harassment. There is no room for doubt about these events.”

Police Commissioner Kobi Shabtai similarly said that the police’s ongoing investigation has yielded “evidence indicating rape [and] amputation of organs,” including breasts.

“Many of the victims who survived the massacres are not ready to speak,” Shabtai said.

Ben Mayor said that she was not aware of October 7 rape survivors having made formal complaints to the police.

The Israel Police screened short clips Tuesday of footage gathered from Hamas bodycams, victim dashboard cameras, social media, and cell phones, showing partially clothed, dead women and charred remains of victims who had been bound before they were burned alive.

In one video, a woman is unclothed from the waist down, with her underpants hanging off one thigh. She is lying face down and is dead. In another, a mutilated dead woman has her dress hitched up to her waist, with no underpants.

The police, which arranged a closed-door screening for journalists, said that these videos indicated sexual assault.

“Many of the victims were in conditions too severe to identify, naked, and with clear signs of sexual assault,” read a caption accompanying a gruesome clip of several corpses, in various states of disrobement, stacked in outdoor piles.

The police also screened a segment of what they said was testimony from a survivor of Hamas’s attack on a large outdoor festival, where over 260 — mostly young adults — were killed.

Identified only as “Witness S.,” the survivor said she had seen terrorists gang-raping, mutilating and then murdering a young partygoer.

“He is here raping her,” S. was videotaped saying, “and then they pass her on to another person.” The terrorists were dressed in olive green uniforms, she added. The police showed video evidence that several Hamas terrorists had posed as Israel Defense Forces soldiers in order to get close to victims.

Confirming that the victim had still been alive during the rape, S. said that “she stood on her feet, she was bleeding from her back.”

Next, said S., one of the terrorists “slices her breast and throws it on the road, and they’re playing with it.”

“Afterwards,” S. continued, “someone really penetrates her and shoots her in the head before he finishes. It’s not like he ejaculates and picks up his pants… He shoots her in the head while he’s still inside of her,” she said.

Ben Mayor confirmed that police have identified the rape victim in this incident, now deceased.

The police declined to say how many rape cases are being looked into.

Police are working on developing “a case against every terrorist, every Hamas member” in custody, Katz said, for the broader set of atrocities committed on October 7.

Katz said that there are “a few hundred” October 7 terrorists in Israeli custody.



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You didn't say that Al Shafi was a big command post, what now? Like I said a 5 years old boy can edit better than the IDF hahaha. I think the IDF captured leaders named Friday and Sunday in this hospital and got eliminated by the SOF of Israel, a huge loss for Hamas.
 
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You didn't say that Al Shafi was a big command post

More and more evidence for that is beeing exposrd . Most of Hamas terorrists had a month to escape , but they can't move the tunnels , they tried to cover or explode some , but thy are being exposed , like the tunnel they found yesterday.

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More and more evidence for that is beeing exposrd . Most of Hamas men had a month to escape , but they can't move the tunnels , they tried to cover or explode some , but thy are being exposed , like the tunnel they found yesterday.

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Why do you keep posting cringe? You are not a mindless drone, you can denounce Israelis.
 
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More and more evidence for that is beeing exposrd . Most of Hamas terorrists had a month to escape , but they can't move the tunnels , they tried to cover or explode some , but thy are being exposed , like the tunnel they found yesterday.

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IDF terrorist records himself throwing flash bang grenade into mosque and laughs about it

any comment on this or just keep pasting your script and squiggles @sammuel

by the way congrats on your military victory against premature babies, you killed them all, Mission Amalek is going well

Deputy Speaker of Knesset: "burn Gaza now!"

 
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