Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[Total Destruction]

northern border activated by Hezbollah.. massive artillery barrage exchange… reported by Al Jazeera

not yet . small exchange of fire from here and there.

 

[indushek]

They are insecure and full of hate:
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The racial hatred for Indians, I mean the mask falls off so easily from so many here.

So a country takes a stand, and one has to racially abuse them cause we don't agree with them.

Talk about generalization of 1+ Billion, and from a Think Tank wow.

Carry on though, given the situation I mean one has to show their real side because its all emotion so we can say anything and who cares.

Real classy -- Taaliya

 

[Corax]

No,I'm not. I'm just disproving an argument by Total Destruction. It's like a small parenthesis. Because his comment was kind of racist. He claimed that native Israeli women are very ugly. Which,at least for me,is not true.

And so you lower yourself to his level?

 

[Mehdipersian]

Oh come on!

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They work for most savage terrorist army ever.
So good terrorist is dead terrorist.
Equal rights for all genders.

 

[RescueRanger]

Another anti-tank missile was fired at Israeli soldiers stationed in Hanita on the Israel-Lebanon border. This would make it the sixth attack on Israeli soldiers on the Lebanese border.

 

[Foinikas]

ÎÏÏαηλινοί ιαÏÏοδικαÏÏÎÏ: ΠεÏιγÏάÏοÏν Ïημάδια βαÏανιÏÏηÏίÏν και κακοÏοίηÏÎ·Ï ÏÏÎ¹Ï ÏοÏοÏÏ - Î ÏήÏη

ÎÎ¼Î¬Î´ÎµÏ Î¹Î±ÏÏοδικαÏÏÏν ÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏÏαÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏο ÎÏÏαήλ εξÎÏαÏαν ÏÏÏμαÏα θÏμάÏÏν ÏÎ·Ï ÎµÏίθεÏÎ·Ï ÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏαγμαÏοÏοιήθηκε Ïην ÏεÏαÏμÎνη εβδομάδα αÏÏ Ïη Î§Î±Î¼Î¬Ï ÎµÎ½Î±Î½Ïίον κοινοÏήÏÏν γÏÏÏ Î±ÏÏ Ïη ÎÏÏίδα ÏÎ·Ï ÎÎ¬Î¶Î±Ï ÎºÎ±Î¹...

flight.com.gr

Israeli coroners describe signs of torture and abuse on bodies of Israeli dead

Let me auto-translate that in english:

Army forensic teams in Israel have examined bodies of victims of last week's attack by Hamas on communities around the Gaza Strip and found multiple signs of torture, rape and other brutalities, officers said Saturday.

About 1,300 bodies have been taken to an army base in Ramla, central Israel, where forensic tests are being carried out by specialist teams to identify the dead and establish the circumstances of their deaths.

About 90 percent of the dead soldiers have been identified while the teams have also identified about half of the dead civilians, said Rabbi Israel Weiss, a former army chief rabbi and one of the officials overseeing the identification of the dead. He added that many bodies bore signs of torture as well as rape.

"We saw dismembered bodies with arms and legs cut off, people who were decapitated, a child who was decapitated," a reserve officer who gave only her first name, Abigail, told reporters.

She added that many cases of rape were also established by the forensic examination of the corpses, which were kept in refrigerated containers.

"We are doing identification with all the means we have," said a military dentist, identified as Captain Maayan. "They have been severely abused. We find gunshots and we find marks that clearly come from torture.

"Reuters notes that military personnel overseeing the process of identifying the bodies did not present forensic evidence in the form of photographs or medical reports.

Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip, has denied allegations of abuse.Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has compared Hamas to Islamic State, the jihadist group that has become infamous around the world for its public beheadings in countries such as Syria and Iraq.

 

[R2D2]

FM Jilani equates Israeli strikes, blockade of Gaza to genocide against Palestinians​

Dawn.com | Published October 15, 2023 | Updated about 4 hours ago

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As the conflict between Israel and Hamas continued to rage on, Caretaker Foreign Minister Jalil Abbas Jilani on Sunday equated Israel’s airstrikes on Gaza and the siege of the territory to conducting genocide against the people of Palestine.

The statement comes after Israel imposed a “total siege” to stop food and fuel from reaching the enclave of 2.3 million people, many poor and dependent on aid in response to a surprise Hamas offensive last week that left 1,300 Israelis dead, according to officials.

In retaliatory air and artillery strikes, Israeli forces have flattened entire neighbourhoods, hospitals and schools in Gaza. Israeli strikes on the Gaza Strip since last week have killed at least 2,215 people, including 724 children, the Palestinian territory’s Hamas-controlled health ministry said on Saturday.

Addressing a press conference in Islamabad, the minister noted that the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation had called an emergency meeting of its executive committee in Jeddah on October 18, adding that he would be in attendance.

“Certainly, Palestine is a very, very, important issue for us. We will certainly discuss the ongoing situation. There is absolutely no doubt that Israel has committed aggression. They have conducted airstrikes on the civilian population which has resulted in the death of several innocent men, women and children,” he said, adding that Pakistan also condemned the “siege of Gaza”.

Jilani noted that the residents of Gaza did not have access to food, water or health facilities. “This is a situation that can be equated with genocide. Matter of fact it is a genocide being conducted by Israel against the poor people of Palestine.”

He said that Pakistan’s position was that Israel must respect United Nations resolutions which recognised the right of self-determination. “We also feel that this is also the result of seven decades of illegal occupation of […] Palestinian territories.”

He also said that “any attempt to equate Israel, which is an aggressor, with the Palestinian struggle, is unacceptable for Pakistan.” He said that Pakistan demanded that the Palestinian right to self-determination be respected.

He called for recognising Palestine as a separate state with pre-1967 borders and Al-Quds Al-Sharif as its capital. “That remains Pakistan’s consistent position with regards to this particular issue,” he said.

Responding to a question from a reporter, he said that Pakistan was in touch with UN agencies and international organisations to provide humanitarian assistance to the Palestinians.

“Our missions in Geneva and New York are also in touch with the UN agencies concerned. But unfortunately, so far there is a complete siege as far as Gaza is concerned,” he said.

He said that Pakistan was ready to provide immediate aid and was also in touch with Egyptian authorities. “We have been told only this morning that Israel is not allowing any assistance as of now. But this is something that we, along with OIC member countries and the international community, would make a very forceful case for the early provision of humanitarian assistance to the people of Palestine,” he said.

Responding to another question, Jilani said there was “absolutely no change in Pakistan’s position with regard to Israel”. He said that Pakistan’s position would continue until the people of Palestine were given the right of self-determination.

Yeh to is tarah ki post hai jese do gaon ki larai main mirasi ka bayan.

 

[TheSolution]

The racial hatred for Indians, I mean the mask falls off so easily from so many here.

So a country takes a stand, and one has to racially abuse them cause we don't agree with them.

Talk about generalization of 1+ Billion, and from a Think Tank wow.

Carry on though, given the situation I mean one has to show their real side because its all emotion so we can say anything and who cares.

Real classy -- Taaliya

 

[RescueRanger]

Yeh to is tarah ki post hai jese do gaon ki larai main mirasi ka bayan.

He is a complete Marasi and so is our response to this. Lets see what happens on the 18th.

 

[Foinikas]

savages terrorist army ever.

Your blind hatred for Jews makes you so biased,that you see everyone as an enemy. Everyone for you is evil and a killer. Tell me,were all Soviets evil in WWII? Were they all evil monsters who killed and raped and looted?

Were all the Germans in WWII evil? Did they all want to kill and conquer? Are all Americans evil? You see everyone as the same. One could argue that Iran is supporting terrorists,that's what a lot of people in many countries say. That Iran keeps meddling everywhere and starts wars in the region. Of course the American governments and Britain do the same often.

Iranians are often seen shouting "death to this,death to that". Are all Iranians then evil monsters who want to kill anyone who doesn't conform with their Islamic ideals?

Don't be so absolute.

 

[Mehdipersian]

ÎÏÏαηλινοί ιαÏÏοδικαÏÏÎÏ: ΠεÏιγÏάÏοÏν Ïημάδια βαÏανιÏÏηÏίÏν και κακοÏοίηÏÎ·Ï ÏÏÎ¹Ï ÏοÏοÏÏ - Î ÏήÏη

ÎÎ¼Î¬Î´ÎµÏ Î¹Î±ÏÏοδικαÏÏÏν ÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏÏαÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏο ÎÏÏαήλ εξÎÏαÏαν ÏÏÏμαÏα θÏμάÏÏν ÏÎ·Ï ÎµÏίθεÏÎ·Ï ÏÎ¿Ï ÏÏαγμαÏοÏοιήθηκε Ïην ÏεÏαÏμÎνη εβδομάδα αÏÏ Ïη Î§Î±Î¼Î¬Ï ÎµÎ½Î±Î½Ïίον κοινοÏήÏÏν γÏÏÏ Î±ÏÏ Ïη ÎÏÏίδα ÏÎ·Ï ÎÎ¬Î¶Î±Ï ÎºÎ±Î¹...

flight.com.gr

Israeli coroners describe signs of torture and abuse on bodies of Israeli dead

Let me auto-translate that in english:

Army forensic teams in Israel have examined bodies of victims of last week's attack by Hamas on communities around the Gaza Strip and found multiple signs of torture, rape and other brutalities, officers said Saturday.

About 1,300 bodies have been taken to an army base in Ramla, central Israel, where forensic tests are being carried out by specialist teams to identify the dead and establish the circumstances of their deaths.

About 90 percent of the dead soldiers have been identified while the teams have also identified about half of the dead civilians, said Rabbi Israel Weiss, a former army chief rabbi and one of the officials overseeing the identification of the dead. He added that many bodies bore signs of torture as well as rape.

"We saw dismembered bodies with arms and legs cut off, people who were decapitated, a child who was decapitated," a reserve officer who gave only her first name, Abigail, told reporters.

She added that many cases of rape were also established by the forensic examination of the corpses, which were kept in refrigerated containers.

"We are doing identification with all the means we have," said a military dentist, identified as Captain Maayan. "They have been severely abused. We find gunshots and we find marks that clearly come from torture.

"Reuters notes that military personnel overseeing the process of identifying the bodies did not present forensic evidence in the form of photographs or medical reports.

Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip, has denied allegations of abuse.Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has compared Hamas to Islamic State, the jihadist group that has become infamous around the world for its public beheadings in countries such as Syria and Iraq.

Typical propaganda for jews. They need better scenario

 

[RescueRanger]

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Just Ignore him, lets just focus on providing updates. In the interest of keeping this thread from getting derailed, please can I ask we don't troll or reply to trolls. Please. Thanks.

 

[TheSolution]

Just Ignore him, lets just focus on providing updates. In the interest of keeping this thread from getting derailed, please can I ask we don't troll or reply to trolls. Please. Thanks.

Only because you asked and not the Pajeet

 

[indushek]

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Propaganda can effect everybody, look at you

On a thread where misery of Palestine is being discussed, and how this can turn into a mass genocide possibly -- you posted about eradication or extermination of another race of people.

Post 13,919 -- You are even classier than this Think Tank. But hey no worries, carry on.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Depressing to say but the Muslim world
Lacks real leadership

Muslim World is not a singular entity.Every Muslim nation is distinct from other Muslim nations,some have historical, geostrategic enemities among them,some have economic machinary aligned with West &US,some have historic ties with Israel due to mutual benefit and on top of that have their own internal problems (like terrorism,incompetent leadership,etc) to deal with.

So expecting whole Muslim World to act as some singular entity is silly.
Turkey even with its comparitively stronger economy can't act agressively.Why? B/C its industry is very much globalized with heavy Western/US influence.

Even Iran , whose geostrategic Interests align with Hamas has very little room to maneuver b/c it is a very isolated country.so can't really influence the global opinion in favour of Palestine.

Pakistan's already fractured economy also heavily depends upon IMF and other West/US based Monetary Systems

Arabs have fought heavy battles against Israel (people make silly comments against them but historically only Arabs and Egyptians fought real wars with Israel)
But they got little success (if any) so Arabian leadership thinks Palestine as a lost cause and prefers political solution for Palestine.They want to normalise their relations with Israel so that Israeli Jews don't find themselves aliens in Middle East and come to talks.Add economic benefits with it and Arabs can really leverage their influence to persuade Israelis towards a peaceful solution for Palestinians.

So their approach is not quite aggressive like it was in 60s and 70s.However,Iranian Geostrategic interests align with armed struggle of Palestine against Israel so they are the only ones here to support Hamas.