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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

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Reports coming of an F 16 getting shot down over Gaza
There is just small chance that if manpad is fired directly upwards it can increase its max altitude above 5km. If i remember correctly 1999 Serbia war there were accounts of manpad reaching much higher threatening high flying jets. In a small area like Gaza aiming directly above getting the lock and shooting can get some hits much above 5km manpad limit in my opinion.
 
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There is just small chance that if manpad is fired directly upwards it can increase its max altitude above 5km. If i remember correctly 1999 Serbia war there were accounts of manpad reaching much higher threatening high flying jets. In a small area like Gaza aiming directly above getting the lock and shooting can get some hits much above 5km manpad limit in my opinion.
They now have other systems also
 
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More Palestinian babies were killed by Jews
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What is the Israeli unity government and what does it want to achieve?​

Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu joins political rivals to create a unity government and war cabinet to oversee the fight against Hamas.
Israel’s parliament has approved Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s emergency unity government, including a number of centrist opposition lawmakers, to display its determination to fight the war with Hamas in Gaza.

Here is what there is to know:

What is an Israeli unity government, and what does it want to achieve?​

A national unity government, according to Israel, is a “government based on a broad coalition, the members of which also include representatives of rival parliamentary groups”.

This is usually formed at times of national emergencies such as war, natural disasters or economic crises.

Before Hamas’s surprise attack on Saturday, Israeli politics had faced turbulence over a push by Netanyahu’s government to overhaul the country’s judiciary that sparked the largest protest movement in Israel’s history.

“The most important action [now] is to establish the unity of the nation,” Netanyahu said in a speech, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal. “The division within us is over. We are all united. And when we are united – we win,” he added.

The Israeli government established an emergency unity government and a war cabinet.


What can the unity government do?​

In a statement, the unity government said it would not promote any unrelated policy or laws, except those related to the continuing fighting with Hamas in Gaza.

Under the agreement, former Defence Minister Benny Gantz and members of his small centrist party will join Netanyahu’s coalition, one of the most right-wing governments in Israel’s history, which Gantz had previously bitterly opposed.

The leader of the largest opposition party in parliament, former Prime Minister Yair Lapid, refused to join the unity government.

What are the objectives of the Israeli war cabinet?​

According to Al Jazeera’s Hoda Abdel-Hamid, the main goal is to direct the offensive against Hamas.

“This war cabinet has full control over the operations of the military,” Abdel-Hamid said from West Jerusalem.


“The stated goal of the military is to eliminate Hamas’s military capability. There has been no talk of the civilian arm of Hamas.

“If the war cabinet wants to broaden the scope of this war, then it will have to consult the wider emergency unity government,” she added.

Abdel-Hamid said the establishment of a war cabinet also eased some of the pressures Netanyahu might face during the conflict.

“This war cabinet will take away accusations against Netanyahu that he is going at it alone, that he’s making his own decisions, and that he doesn’t have people who have extensive military experience within his ruling coalition,” Abdel-Hamid explained.

Who forms part of the war cabinet?​

Israel’s three-member war cabinet would include Netanyahu, Gantz and Defence Minister Yoav Gallant.


The statement said that Gadi Eisenkot, also a former army chief from Gantz’s party, and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer will serve as observers.

A seat would be “reserved” for Lapid in the war cabinet.

Who is Benny Gantz, the opposition member of the cabinet?​

Gantz is an Israeli politician and retired army general with a 38-year career.

His career included overseeing a 1989 operation to airlift close to 15,000 Ethiopian Jews to Israel.

He also served as chief of staff during two military assaults on the besieged Gaza Strip in 2012 and 2014 for which he and the government faced international criticism.


A joint study by Amnesty International and Forensic Architecture cited “strong evidence” of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity on August 1, 2014, as Israeli forces bombarded residential areas in Rafah following the capture of one of its soldiers.

Blue and White party leader Benny Gantz delivers a statement in Tel Aviv, Israel. Israel''s President Reuven Rivlin on Sunday, March 15 said he has decided to give Gantz the first opportunity to form a
Benny Gantz delivers a statement in Tel Aviv [File: Sebastian Scheiner/Associated Press]
A UN report in 2015 concluded that both Israel and Palestinian groups had probably committed war crimes during the 51-day conflict.

When entering politics, Gantz managed to unite “an opposition that lacked leadership for years and seemed to offer a viable political substitute to Netanyahu”, according to research conducted by the Brookings Institution.

Once praised by Netanyahu as an “excellent officer” to whom Israelis owed gratitude, the prime minister also branded him a “weak leftist”.

In response to the pandemic in 2020, Gantz and Netanyahu formed an emergency government, but it collapsed six months later.

SOURCE: AL JAZEERA AND NEWS AGENCIES
 
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I think it has nothing to do with religion but national psychology. 9/11 has affected us so deeply that any act of terror, especially as gory as we saw with the videos showing women being carried away and mass murder has caused us to completely log off. So, if Gaza has to be vaporized to neutralize Hamas, that is the cost of war. Last such psychology was during WW2 when U.S. first firebombed Dresden and Tokyo and later atom bombed Japan.
You may be OK with genocide most normal people arnt, and even if Muslim leaders are cowards to not help the Palestinians their people will always support them however they can.
 
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Beer Sheva, that name sounds like from Hindu mythology. Beer Sheva = taking care of the veer (warriors ). Proof that Arabs were also Hindus in the vedic period and Kaba was a shiva temple. Proof right there.
Apologies it's a typo because I was typing fast, it should say BEERSHEBA but is pronounced as Beer Sheva. It has very interesting biblical history:

 
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What this conflict highlights to me is that Israel’s military stock of ammunition is extremely low. A few days and they are out of ammunition.

Any serious actor that was going to take on Israel should logically focus on taking out all the resupply routes which are airports and airfields asap, ports/harbours. This will constrain the ability of other countries to resupply Israel.
 
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