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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Dont matter if you are 2 million strong. If you don't have SAM's, interceptors, aircrafts or other modern weapons. You are just a sitting target.
And lets not point fingers at the people who are suffering right now. Most of them have families to attend to, children to raise, not everyone can fight.
Wanna blame? Blame the whole ummah for being pile of sh*t.

Honestly when Pakistan was weak and we didn’t have Nukes our pilots made examples of the so called Israeli Air Force

Today PAF JF17 block 3 setting a up a well organized trap could take out the Israeli F35

We did it with Chinese copy of Mig15 with Russian cock pit our boys couldn’t even read the freggin altitude dials against French built top tier Mirage III and 5 why not today

Because we are all spineless cowards and losers
 
Really?! The Shia would be more than happy to exterminate the Sunni, and vice versa. During the Iran/Iraq war, the Israelis and Iranians helped each other to destroy Saddam's nuclear installations, in more recent times, the Saudis would love to have closer relations with Israel to counter Iran. "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
 
Really?! The Shia would be more than happy to exterminate the Sunni, and vice versa. During the Iran/Iraq war, the Israelis and Iranians helped each other to destroy Saddam's nuclear installations, in more recent times, the Saudis would love to have closer relations with Israel to counter Iran. "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
You don't know us
 
You don't know us

I know you well enough. What happened immediately after Mohammad's death? You started killing each other. Have a look throughout Islamic history, you'll find your answer.
 

No proof no videos

The people who were killed at the rave party were high on drugs and drink and had automatic weapons

Firing came from within the party and Palestinian resistance fighters replied and during the ensuing gun battle some people died but it was mainly Israeli killing Israeli

If you mix drugs drink and machines guns it’s dangerous.

Even reputable journalists found huge qauntity of illegal drugs at this party
 
Dont be naive and think after gaza is done that you and your country isn't next.
We already had it in Bosnia.
Go read the torah and bible
no thanks,
It's funny things that you are saying were said by iraq, yemen, syria, libya and Afghanistan and look what happened to them. Dont mistake that it won't happen to you too.
Already happened, been there done that got the t-shirt and the mass graves. the 350 million Arabs did send 5,000 soldiers. Thank you guys. Pakistanis did send some good anti tank weapons. As did Iran. But yeah it was not easy. Without a global power to help you, it's very very hard.
 
Do not divert attention. Others doing wrong does not make it okay for you to do wrong. Turkey is in the region, the Middle East, and Erdogan openly talks in support of the Palestinian people - but, yet, just talks without any real recourse. Pakistan as of now is under American control ever since we lost Imran Khan, this is something we admit to and don't shy away from. You, on the other hand, are in absolute doubt and disarray at the mere assumption of someone even bringing up the wrongs of Turkey in this situation. Pakistan has also done quite a bit for the Palestinian issue, including scholarships for students, and training some of the PLA members through our academies. But this isn't a game of who does more or less.
Turkiye always stands with Palestinians in humanitarian and diplomatic ways. Turkiye always backed Palestinians in UN, EU everywhere possible unlike some other countries pushing for conflict but are nowhere to be found when things escalate.

Our stance never changed even when Mahmoud Abbas’ PA harmes us countless times on Greece,Cyprus, ypg/pkk and Karabakh conflict Turkiye viewed it as a separate issue from Gaza and continued its support for them and the Gazans.

Your accusations should be directed to the parties who showed their missile power since 30 years and did nothing when push comes to shove not Turks.

Turkiye is a big powerful develloped country with very great responsibilities we are not less valuable then your tribal 3rd world country to put our country and people into the fire eventhough oilrich Arabs dont even lift a finger. Let Jordan, Egypt, KSA, UAE do something first.

Kuwait or Bahrain official said yesterday that its not worth to cut economic ties with Isreael over this. You see let these Gulf Arabs first take a stance. Turkiye does enough Erdogan made the one and only harshest statements in the world as a leader no one comes close as his statements. Bunch of beggars that dont even dare to make a statement cant lecture us demand from Turks to declare war. You dont have the right to disrespect us like that.
 
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Missing Shani Louk confirmed dead, family say​

Shani Louk on holiday in Mexico, in an image taken from her Instagram page


Shani Louk's InstagramCopyright: Shani Louk's Instagram
Shani - pictured here in Mexico - was attending a festival in Israel when she went missingImage caption: Shani - pictured here in Mexico - was attending a festival in Israel when she went missing
Shani Louk, the 22-year-old German woman who went missingwhen Hamas stormed a music festival on 7 October, has now been confirmed dead, her family have said.
Speaking to German media, Ricarda Louk said she received news on Sunday from Israeli military that some remains of her daughter's body had been found. DNA from a bone fragment had been analysed and matched samples provided by her family, her mother said.
Shani’s sister Adi added on Instagram
: "With great sadness we announce the death of my sister Shani Nicole Louk, of blessed memory, on 7 October 2023, at the massacre at Re'im."

It had been thought Shani had been kidnapped by Hamas gunmenwhile at the Supernova music festival in the Negev Desert,near the Gaza border, where 260 people were killed. Ricarda had pleaded for information on her daughter after she saw footage online which she believed showed Shani "unconscious in a car".


>> Looks like Israel killed her in one of their bombing runs by American made F16s operated by the IDF ...
 
Do not divert attention. Others doing wrong does not make it okay for you to do wrong. Turkey is in the region, the Middle East, and Erdogan openly talks in support of the Palestinian people - but, yet, just talks without any real recourse. Pakistan as of now is under American control ever since we lost Imran Khan, this is something we admit to and don't shy away from. You, on the other hand, are in absolute doubt and disarray at the mere assumption of someone even bringing up the wrongs of Turkey in this situation. Pakistan has also done quite a bit for the Palestinian issue, including scholarships for students, and training some of the PLA members through our academies. But this isn't a game of who does more or less.
Wow what a huge support lol Turkiye does that and more of it since decades its peanuts compared Turkiye’s political, humanitarian, diplomatic support. Even that you mention that is embarresing as if its something worthy.
 
Saudi Arabia... Pure evil.

You are aware that Hamas just f*cked the big Saudi deal with the US , under which US would protect Saudi from Iran . Now Hamas ruined it for them and put their security at risk.

Are you expecting them to be happy about it ?

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It is not my call to make.
However, if rumors are true that Hamas has about 4 months of supplies then that's a long bloody economically devastating war on Israel's economy.
I also think the White House has starting to tell Israel to scale down its 'achievable'. Israeli desire for vengeance is not based in rationality and runs against America's larger interests. This is not the America of 1991. It has its limits in resources and is culturally different from
that era--I know so, I have been here all those years and me and my WASP neighbor often discuss the cultural shifts here. Appetite for wars and dead bodies is far, far less and trust in the govt. is even lesser. Short of a big False Flag, there is no appetite for wars--not even for anything more than a few bombs dropped from the air, here and there. An American President eventually has to be aware of the public sentiments.

PS. We don't know what MBS and Erdogan and the Ayatollah have agreed between them and between them and the Americans.


The big issue that israel faces, because they have such a small population and have to draft so many reservists from their day jobs, any long term protracted conflict starts to eat into their economy. Israel was driven out of Gaza in the past. There is little reason to think israel can control Gaza in the future. Plus, world opinion and forces, and domestic US opinion, are trending against israel.
 

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