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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

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Looking at the reality. Egypt, Jordan, UAE all recognise Israel, they signed peace treaties and trade with Israel. Saudia does secret trading and has friendship but now finally openly wants to recognise Israel, they will also force/blackmail many other muslim states to recognise. So where has Palestine gone? Palestinian resistance gone? Saudi Arabia hit the final nail on the coffin, Saudia and the rest of countries banned hamas because they won't toe their line, that's only their crime. If the Arabs themselves sold Palestine then what can the muslim states do who are not arab? Syria, Iraq, Libya didn't accept Israel and look what happened to them, the gulf arabs are the one who supported Usa wars and paid the terrorist rebels to destroy these countries.

Its just cheap propaganda to point fingers at Iran or anyone else. Pointing fingers at Hizbollah which itself is a militia is immature, Hizbollah cannot take on Israel, Lebanon will be bombed like Gaza.

The Arabs themselves sold Palestine and jumped in bed with the zionist. The gulf states did this after they betrayed the Ottomans, they received their kingdoms. Saudia clearly mentioned if Iran gets the bomb then we will too, what about Israel? No mention. Hypocrites
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I met an Iraqi a few weeks back. We talked about Palestine Jordan Syria etc and he was saying we all are one people, and are relatives. Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine was one and he said he was shocked how everyone is quiet when Palestine is getting bombed, its like your own people are getting bombed and you go around hugging the bombers just because the same people drew some lines on a map to divide you.
 
What happened in northern Gaza was genocidal and a massacre of at least 2,000 Palestinian civilians. All the airstrikes and bombings exclusively targeted civilians and was a form of ethnic cleansing. Cutting off the internet and communications was intended to hide these massacres from the world. Stop waiting for ground invasion and start doing something. There should be no Jews in any Muslim nations.
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Occupied Palestine: Palestinian media: More than 100 martyrs in an Israeli bombing of a building containing displaced people in the Beach camp, west of Gaza.

 
Mole resident
Scott Ritter is the most accurate analyst out there, surely.


Anybody who believes in Scott Ritter cannot be taken seriously. Expulsion of the US from Middle East is wishful thinking. And you are assuming that American and Israeli defenses do not work, they do in fact.

American presence in the Middle East is not tied to Israel but US have meaningful bilateral relationships with a number of countries in the Middle East.

Some of you are too focused on fringe elements and spooked by their Armageddon theories.
I think that the optimists who think that the long Obama attack and campaign destroyed the Taliban, who think that the Pashtuns in Afghanistan would not harm the Americans, are mistaken. Or concierers I press 'analysts' enough.
 
The obvious question.

WTF is Egypt Syria and Jordan doing?
Watching with concern and worrying if the war will spillover to their countries. Nobody wants to 'volunteer' for a war. It is not a street fight in the neighborhood where you go and confront a bully. All three are weak countries and a war may lead to collapse of the government. It has already collapsed in Syria and Lebanon. Egypt is held together with chewing gum and string.
 
The Israelis never stopped their terrorism. The reason why the Palestinians are labeled as terrorists are only because they are much weaker.

Israel has always killed multiple times more civilians than the Palestinians did in every conflict they had.

Their silence is deafening. The Palestinians have been betrayed and they sheepishly stay quiet as they let in the murderer to kill their own brother.

The fact that some Arabs have the nerve to call upon Iran or Turkey or Pakistan to help is ridiculous when the Arab countries number 300 million and not one lifted a finger except for Hezbollah and the Houthis.
Betrayal and abandonment are in Arab culture and history. Look at the contrast - the West sticks by Israel no matter what, overriding its interests and stated objectives of freedom and human rights, while Arab states abandon their brethren.

Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Bahrain have played key roles in the Zionification of the Middle East. Countries like Egypt, Morocco, Sudan are their deputies. OIC should be disbanded.
 
I'm saying they have had a bad history too.


No thats the typical western pc bullsh!t that you used to [still do?] hear from western human rights types in their pathetic pc attempts at being non biased and impartial [lest anyone accuse them of anti-semitism],frankly it reminds me a little of donald trump talking about "good people on both sides",when one of those sides were literal nazis.
Its just more blame the victim bullsh!t.One gets the real feeling that what the west really resents is that the palestinians just didnt go off and quietly die in some dark corner out of sight and out of mind of the west.

Imagine if you dared to say that about the french [or greek?] resistance to the nazis in ww2.I dont think that would go down too well in a lot of western countries.
 
The Gaza genocide proves that muslim leadership, especially the generals are agents of the west. The gulf arab states are Israeli agents. The whole world knows Saudia wanted to sign peace treaty with Israel and recognise it but Hamas was the problem, now they all ganging up to finish hamas so peace treaty can be signed. Hypocrites
Nobody is anybody's agent. Gulf Arab states have had enough of this problem for 75 years and want to move on to normalcy than be yoked to this problem for ever. What makes anyone think they should love Palestinians so much that they have to be in eternal state of cold war with Israel? They hate Israel less than they hate Hamas. Religion is not the Krazy glue that binds nations together, as many are assuming.
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Israeli's are just trying to inflict mass murder and mayhem on Gaza civilians in order for Hamas to surrender. They want to end this fast as they can't take economic hit. Each night they commit even worse war crimes to try to achieve this. Muslim world indifference is allowing them to break international law in such a horrific way. Muslims rather submit to Jews than wish for victory of the brothers in Hamas.
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Artillery shelling east of Bureij and Jabalia

 
I'm starting to think,what if the Russians told Iran to tell Hamas to do this in order to open a second front down there and take the focus out of Ukraine for a bit? Divert the attention and funding from Ukraine to Israel and allow the Russians to fight easier?

Everything is possible but unlikely. Iran is not going to do something stupid just to help out Russia. Russia is not exactly an ally of Iran.
 
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