Gates warns China not to underestimate US power

[godblessamerica]

You seem more of an Americunt than American.

you insult me with a technology owned by me using my language? hmm ironic isn't it?

may I add the servers for this website is based in America, show can you even possibly have the nerve to call this site Pakistani?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

you insult me with a technology owned by me using my language? hmm ironic isn't it?

may I add the servers for this website is based in America, show can you even possibly have the nerve to call this site Pakistani?

Too bad you are not the exact person who invented it. And having a good journey.

 

[gambit]

Cut the BS, it'll look like Zimbabwe, like in the first 37 years of "democracy". In fact, if I was living in 1920's or 30's RoC, I would envy the people from Zimbabwe.

Nooo...YOU cut the BS. Everywhere communism was imposed, poverty, starvation, and general misery followed. The sorry record is undeniable.

 

[Tin Man]

Maybe this is merely an elaborate ploy to provoke the chinese establishment to act more rash. There was a reasonable parity between the soviet state and america. The same cannot ever be said about china. Perhaps the US is hoping it would give the chinese an incentive to act prematurely and lash out against some of its regional opponents- namely, taiwan, japan, india- thus giving everyone the perfect excuse to push china back to the stone age? In the event of aggression the US can gain the support from the more reclusive
powers to act and coordinate a joint strike. This is just my assumption- please excuse my over active imagination.

 

[xixi]

Not at all. It is accepted in Asia that the two most racist nations in Asia are the Japanese and the Chinese. Just as Asia suffered under Imperial Japan, the fear now is that a rising China will assert Chinese racialist superiority and probably embroil Asia in another race based war. The behaviors of these boys here are signs of that.

No surprise, brainwashed yankees. Your military men always call us bad guys.

Just as Asia suffered under Imperial Japan.

99% asian victims of Jap Imperialists are Chinese. Now you call us racists when some of us want to revenge? Your country are famous for racists hating asians. You damn USA have prepared many times to kill us all with your H-bombs. Damn yankees will get their just desserts. Get your alien tech F-22s prepared and wait for our lead painted poisoned low quality bombs, bad guys.

 

[xixi]

Nooo...YOU cut the BS. Everywhere communism was imposed, poverty, starvation, and general misery followed. The sorry record is undeniable.

Before they became communism they had already been in poverty, starvation, and misery caused by imperialists. And they were just called communism. Can your holy USA washed brain figure out the difference between what it is called and what it is?

 

[Parashuram1]

The statement is quite funny especially when hearing it from Mr. Gates. I was under the impression that the other countries are likely to be underestimated by a ruling superpower.

It is very crude of him to issue such a statement. Why would an emerging country underestimate an established superpower?

 

[gpit]

Would look like Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.

Nooo...YOU cut the BS. Everywhere communism was imposed, poverty, starvation, and general misery followed. The sorry record is undeniable.

This high school drop-out has not only obviously failed in his academy, but is also fully brain-washed. He has absolutely no idea what he is raving about: he knows nothing about the history of Korea, Japan, China, even knows nothing about his home country Vietnam. He’s completely blinded his eyes with acerbic hatred. Poor guy!

a) This fool knows nothing about the fact that so called (Soviet type) of communism is rising out of poverty, starvation, and slavery.

I asked his fool: is Vietnam poorer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.

I asked his fool: is Russia poorer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.

I asked his fool: is China poorer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.



b) This high school drop-out doesn’t know that Japan, S Korea are occupied countries! These countries don’t have their own say. They have no independent policies. Even if US soldiers rape their women, the criminals cannot be handled by their own judiciary. What slave countries!

Does anyone of you want that type of democracy?

Perhaps he does want Vietnam to be a slave country as such. But he failed his attempt in Vienam War.

c) If you are poor country and don’t want to be a slave country, yet you want to be a democracy country. Yes, there are plenty of examples in Asia: India, the Philippines, Mongolia,… If China were to be a democratic country, it would be at the best another India or the Philippines.

d) In fact, the US has more communism elements than communist China. Let’s quote part of “The Communist Manifesto” and make a comparison with what the US has had:

"These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. – partially realized http://www.nrcm.org/documents/publiclandownership.pdf. Note that AK has 89% land that is publically owned.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. – fully realized
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. – partially realized in the states
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. – fully realized.
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. – partially realized, spatially after the financial crises. Some are rolled back.
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. – Partially realized. Some transport means are in the hand of state (e.g. New Jersey Transit)
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. – partially realized
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. – mostly realized
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. – mostly realized
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. – fully realized"

Thus, the US is more communist than China!

 

[gambit]

This high school drop-out has not only obviously failed in his academy, but is also fully brain-washed. He has absolutely no idea what he is raving about: he knows nothing about the history of Korea, Japan, China, even knows nothing about his home country Vietnam. He’s completely blinded his eyes with acerbic hatred. Poor guy!

a) This fool knows nothing about the fact that so called (Soviet type) of communism is rising out of poverty, starvation, and slavery.

I asked his fool: was Vietnam richer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.

I asked his fool: was Russia richer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.

I asked his fool: was China richer now than it was before communism? He finds himself utterly dumb-founded, and pretended not seeing my question.

No. I ignored them then because they were stupid questions. Communism is supposed to make everyone equal. No wealth, therefore no poverty. Except that outside of the communist regime, other people were being more wealthy and more prosperous than those living in communist countries. Everywhere communism was imposed, either the country remained backward or behind, never the leader. That is why your questions are stupid.

Thus, the US is more communist than China!

Good...Then that proved China is inept at communism then and now...

 

[gambit]

Before they became communism they had already been in poverty, starvation, and misery caused by imperialists. And they were just called communism. Can your holy USA washed brain figure out the difference between what it is called and what it is?

Yeah...And communism prolonged that misery with other imperialists, the communist kind.

 

[gpit]

No. I ignored them then because they were stupid questions. Communism is supposed to make everyone equal. No wealth, therefore no poverty.

See how erratic your logic is! "Equal" in your abberrative thinking is "no wealth".

Except that outside of the communist regime, other people were being more wealthy and more prosperous than those living in communist countries. Everywhere communism was imposed, either the country remained backward or behind, never the leader. That is why your questions are stupid.


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Are you saying India is richer than China? (Sorry to Indians, don't want to drag in India, but it happens to be a convenient example.)

You stand as a human being (not animal) and answer one question for us: A foreign country will ensure your richness. But do you want your country woman be raped by the foreign country’s soldier and your country’s judiciary can’t cover it?

 

[gambit]

See how erratic your logic is! "Equal" in your abberrative thinking is "no wealth".

Heck...If am a high school dropout, looks like you never made it past kindergarten. Wealth and poverty are relative. If I cut ten cords of wood, I am wealthier than the man who cut only 5 but poorer than the man who cut 15. Communism is supposed to abolish all of that relativity. Everyone is supposed to contribute to the best of his ability and to take only what he need. Therefore there can be no 'wealth' in this perfect society. No wealth equal to no poverty. And everyone is supposed to be happy.

Are you saying India is richer than China?

Just to humor you -- Yes.

You stand as a human being (not animal) and answer one question for us: A foreign country will ensure your richness. But do you want your country woman be raped by the foreign country’s soldier and your country’s judiciary can’t cover it?

You mean when Ho Chi Minh thought it was appropriate that there existed a 'Status Of Forces Agreement' (SOFA) between North Viet Nam and China? Chinese soldiers literally got away with murders, plural, in North Viet Nam, even if when one victim was a woman and proven to be a loyal communist cadre in the fight against France, who knew Ho personally, who appealed to Ho for protection, all to no avail.

Amazon.com: Following Ho Chi Minh: The Memoirs of a North Vietnamese Colonel (9780824822330): Bui Tin: Books

Then I guess the answer is no.

 

[gpit]

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Then I guess the answer is no.

So you, Mr. Dropout, essentially mean Chinese soldier rape is not OK but US soldier rape is OK.

Is it because raped by democratic soldiers is morally higher?

BTW, I didn't read the allegation in your propaganda book, which is too rampant here and there are more more interesting ones in bookstore/library.

 

[gpit]

.... Wealth and poverty are relative. If I cut ten cords of wood, I am wealthier than the man who cut only 5 but poorer than the man who cut 15. Communism is supposed to abolish all of that relativity. Everyone is supposed to contribute to the best of his ability and to take only what he need. Therefore there can be no 'wealth' in this perfect society. No wealth equal to no poverty. And everyone is supposed to be happy.


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According to this dropout logic, a cave man possesses a stone tool that other cave men don't have is relatively wealthier than a modern man who has a refrigerator or a micro-stove as now nearly everybody has it.

In other hand, a man with one meal a day in a time when people can only afford one meal every two days is wealthier than the people that all routinely have three meals a day today.

Perhaps that is the logic he/his family used in trying to "get wealthy" by suppressing his neighbors. No wonder he was eventually finished by commies in Viet.

What a hilarious logic!

 

[anon45]

That is funny.

How many wars has America started in the past ten years?

How many wars has China started in the past ten years?

I suppose it's a natural human emotion to be worried about a rising power, but we're not the ones declaring war all over the world.

Neither is the US declaring war all over the world, unless Saddam and Al Qaeda/ Taliban= whole world.

Meanwhile, how many territorial disputes does China have? How many currently indepently administered tracts of land does China lay claim to?

The US never layed claim to the land of Afghanistan or Iraq. China lays claim to land/water administered by India, Taiwan as a whole, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Japan, etc.