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People who have soft heart for Nawaz Sharif should just put his picture on their profile so we know who are his supporters
Game Over for PTI(look like)
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Just look at his name. "Chacha" meaning old PMLN slave
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I don't think PMLN should/would go behind PPP knowing they are all about corruption. What PMLN has done in last 5 years will all be negated only to satisfy some ego's. In my opinion let PTI form the government with a strong united opposition; they will have more cards to play that way.
So IK was absolutely right about 'واری وٹہ' of PPP & PMLN. These both party's high ups are on same page to resist accountability to save their corrupt necks - and that not going to happen (In-Shaa-Allah). Wait and see.
MQM will wipe out if they join govt. They will get nothing out of this PTI govt and will go again empty handed to voters. Then there is ghost of Altaf which establishment has kept in their sleeves to be used when required. They should remain in opposition and convince their voters for next election.
If this happen i can assure you MQM will be eradicated from karachi within 5 years.
PMLN will be elimanated from panjab..
the only winner would be PPP.
fools(PMLN) are looking for number games without knowing what's gonna happen.
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PPP, PML-N join hands to give Imran tough time
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Islamabad: Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman talks to leaders of Pakistan Peoples Party who called on him at his residence on Sunday.—INP
ISLAMABAD: The country’s two major parties — Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz and Pakistan Peoples Party — are set to play an ARD-like opposition role in parliament as they have agreed on formulation of a “coordinated joint strategy”, if the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf manages to form its government at the Centre.
The broad-based understanding on cooperation was reached during the first direct meeting between the leaders of the PML-N and PPP after the July 25 general elections here on Sunday.
“It was an ice-breaker,” said PML-N’s Mushahid Hussain Sayed, when asked about the outcome of the meeting held at the residence of former National Assembly speaker Sardar Ayaz Sadiq.
“It was a very good meeting and you can call it a meeting of the minds,” the PML-N leader said, adding that there was complete unanimity of views between the two parties that the “July 25 elections have been stolen”.
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Fazl wants joint opposition to prevent PTI from forming govt
He said both sides were of the view that they should “completely reject” the election results and should adopt “a coordinated joint opposition strategy” to give a tough time to the Imran Khan-led PTI government while staying inside parliament.
He said the two parties would meet again on Monday as the PML-N had told the PPP representatives that it would inform them about its decision on a proposal of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) to boycott parliament. He said the PPP delegation had informed the PML-N that they were not in favour of boycotting parliament.
The PPP delegation comprised Yousuf Raza Gilani, Sherry Rehman, Qamar Zaman Kaira and Farhatullah Babar while the PML-N side was represented by Mushahid Hussain Sayed, Ayaz Sadiq, former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Sardar Mahtab Ahmed Khan.
Later, the PPP delegation also held talks with Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman and tried to persuade him to reverse his decision of boycotting parliament.
Talking to Dawn, Sherry Rehman said they had urged the Maulana not to boycott parliament because by “vacating the space we will be providing a walkover” to the PTI.
She said the parties had had a bad experience of boycotting the elections or parliament in the past, adding that the PPP had even questioned the credibility of the 2013 elections and the party leadership had dubbed them “RO elections”, yet they had participated fully in the parliamentary proceedings to strengthen democracy.
“We are very clear that democratic forces while condemning the polls have all the rights to sit on the seats for which they had fought very hard,” she said.
In reply to a question, Ms Rehman said consultations among the parties would continue and they were expected to have more sessions.
Both the PPP and PML-N leaders said that so far they had not discussed any strategy for the upcoming elections for key parliamentary offices of the speaker and deputy speaker, adding that such minute modalities would be discussed at a later stage.
Although the PTI has emerged as the single largest party in the National Assembly after the polls, the final results issued by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP), however, shows that the party is still short of numbers to form its government independently. According to the results, the PTI has bagged 115 general seats — 22 short of simple majority — whereas the PML-N and PPP have won 64 and 43 seats, respectively.
Sources in the PPP and PML-N told Dawn that Maulana Fazlur Rehman, who also heads the MMA, had shown flexibility and might reverse the decision taken at a multi-party conference to boycott the oath-taking session of parliament. They said the Maulana had suggested that they should jointly field candidates for the parliamentary offices and make every effort to prevent the PTI from forming its government at the Centre.
Since the MMA has 12 seats, the combined seats of the PPP, PML-N and MMA become 117 — two more than the PTI’s number of seats.
The sources said that a joint meeting of the leaders of the three parties was also expected to be held on Monday (today).
Last time it was after the 2002 elections when the PPP and PML-N had forged an anti-government alliance — Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD) — under Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan. The MMA was another opposition alliance in parliament at that time.
The members of the ARD and MMA had given a tough time to the military government of Gen Pervez Musharraf who had picked Zafarullah Jamali as the prime minister. Over 100 members of the two alliances kept parliament non-functional for a record almost one year through noisy protest against the Legal Framework Order of the military regime, forcing the government to hold talks with the opposition.
The issue was resolved when the MMA entered into an agreement with the military-led civilian regime and parliament approved the controversial 17th Constitution Amendment giving indemnity to the acts of Gen Musharraf, including the amendments he had made to the Constitution.
Political analysts and experts believe that the new parliament will be a reflection of the 2002 assembly when the government had to face a tough opposition in the form of the ARD and MMA.
Published in Dawn, July 30th, 2018
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Mullah Diesel
Amir WasimJuly 30, 2018
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Islamabad: Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman talks to leaders of Pakistan Peoples Party who called on him at his residence on Sunday.—INP
ISLAMABAD: The country’s two major parties — Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz and Pakistan Peoples Party — are set to play an ARD-like opposition role in parliament as they have agreed on formulation of a “coordinated joint strategy”, if the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf manages to form its government at the Centre.
The broad-based understanding on cooperation was reached during the first direct meeting between the leaders of the PML-N and PPP after the July 25 general elections here on Sunday.
“It was an ice-breaker,” said PML-N’s Mushahid Hussain Sayed, when asked about the outcome of the meeting held at the residence of former National Assembly speaker Sardar Ayaz Sadiq.
“It was a very good meeting and you can call it a meeting of the minds,” the PML-N leader said, adding that there was complete unanimity of views between the two parties that the “July 25 elections have been stolen”.
ARTICLE CONTINUES AFTER AD
Fazl wants joint opposition to prevent PTI from forming govt
He said both sides were of the view that they should “completely reject” the election results and should adopt “a coordinated joint opposition strategy” to give a tough time to the Imran Khan-led PTI government while staying inside parliament.
He said the two parties would meet again on Monday as the PML-N had told the PPP representatives that it would inform them about its decision on a proposal of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal (MMA) to boycott parliament. He said the PPP delegation had informed the PML-N that they were not in favour of boycotting parliament.
The PPP delegation comprised Yousuf Raza Gilani, Sherry Rehman, Qamar Zaman Kaira and Farhatullah Babar while the PML-N side was represented by Mushahid Hussain Sayed, Ayaz Sadiq, former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and Sardar Mahtab Ahmed Khan.
Later, the PPP delegation also held talks with Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman and tried to persuade him to reverse his decision of boycotting parliament.
Talking to Dawn, Sherry Rehman said they had urged the Maulana not to boycott parliament because by “vacating the space we will be providing a walkover” to the PTI.
She said the parties had had a bad experience of boycotting the elections or parliament in the past, adding that the PPP had even questioned the credibility of the 2013 elections and the party leadership had dubbed them “RO elections”, yet they had participated fully in the parliamentary proceedings to strengthen democracy.
“We are very clear that democratic forces while condemning the polls have all the rights to sit on the seats for which they had fought very hard,” she said.
In reply to a question, Ms Rehman said consultations among the parties would continue and they were expected to have more sessions.
Both the PPP and PML-N leaders said that so far they had not discussed any strategy for the upcoming elections for key parliamentary offices of the speaker and deputy speaker, adding that such minute modalities would be discussed at a later stage.
Although the PTI has emerged as the single largest party in the National Assembly after the polls, the final results issued by the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP), however, shows that the party is still short of numbers to form its government independently. According to the results, the PTI has bagged 115 general seats — 22 short of simple majority — whereas the PML-N and PPP have won 64 and 43 seats, respectively.
Sources in the PPP and PML-N told Dawn that Maulana Fazlur Rehman, who also heads the MMA, had shown flexibility and might reverse the decision taken at a multi-party conference to boycott the oath-taking session of parliament. They said the Maulana had suggested that they should jointly field candidates for the parliamentary offices and make every effort to prevent the PTI from forming its government at the Centre.
Since the MMA has 12 seats, the combined seats of the PPP, PML-N and MMA become 117 — two more than the PTI’s number of seats.
The sources said that a joint meeting of the leaders of the three parties was also expected to be held on Monday (today).
Last time it was after the 2002 elections when the PPP and PML-N had forged an anti-government alliance — Alliance for the Restoration of Democracy (ARD) — under Nawabzada Nasrullah Khan. The MMA was another opposition alliance in parliament at that time.
The members of the ARD and MMA had given a tough time to the military government of Gen Pervez Musharraf who had picked Zafarullah Jamali as the prime minister. Over 100 members of the two alliances kept parliament non-functional for a record almost one year through noisy protest against the Legal Framework Order of the military regime, forcing the government to hold talks with the opposition.
The issue was resolved when the MMA entered into an agreement with the military-led civilian regime and parliament approved the controversial 17th Constitution Amendment giving indemnity to the acts of Gen Musharraf, including the amendments he had made to the Constitution.
Political analysts and experts believe that the new parliament will be a reflection of the 2002 assembly when the government had to face a tough opposition in the form of the ARD and MMA.
Published in Dawn, July 30th, 2018
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Forward block ca help PTI this time, but what if in future (let say after 6 months) there is a "Tehreek e adam aitmaad" against IK ? And they vote against Ik and in favor of PMLN candidate ?
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@BHarwana so you showed 4 MNAs joining PTI , where is rest ????? My questions was about other 9 to 10 , as I said not many joining PTI.
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LOL you all start crying and some calling me PML-N ………… LMAO
I just pointed out one simple possibility , but I guess you all hate looking at mirror ………… And one more thing IK Govt with so many small parties wont help either ………… All parties joining PTI and all independent joining PTI will make IK to do some compromises
And Stop calling me PML-N or any party . If you look at possibility of Opposition's Govt then more then welcome to comment , if not simply stay on topic.
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LOL you all start crying and some calling me PML-N ………… LMAO
I just pointed out one simple possibility , but I guess you all hate looking at mirror ………… And one more thing IK Govt with so many small parties wont help either ………… All parties joining PTI and all independent joining PTI will make IK to do some compromises
And Stop calling me PML-N or any party . If you look at possibility of Opposition's Govt then more then welcome to comment , if not simply stay on topic.
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For a Strong Govt in Center, IK should comes out of Idealism as soon as possible, Otherwise it will hurts Pakistan.
Tough / Loud and Big Talk is haunting IK at the moment.
He needs to talk with PPPP definately. otherwise he will be blackmailed of every single day of his govt by independents and others.
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Peoples Party Ne Bazi Palat Di - AP What they are going to do against Imran Khan
I was very sure they will do it , They have the numbers not only in center but in Punjab , My dear country fellows , Election 2018 was rigid , managed by "some one" in favor of them or I should say Against IK , , , ,
PTI will very soon find this out , how technically they beat IK , "PTI's Own" member were also part of this , all those who were responsible for tickets in central Punjab...…. Cities like Sargodha , Gujerwanla , and few more where PTI haven't win ..
Do the math …………………
@Zibago , @django , @BHarwana
Perfect! Let them make the government. They have gotten 64 and 43 seats in this election, next election they won't get more than 10. They can't fool the awam anymore.
Running country that is completely bankrupt is not going to be easy. All these Political parties are corrupt and they nothing to give to IMF. The only reason they want to stay in power is to hide their corruption.
Army will not compromise on Nuclear issue.
F*cking NAB is sleeping...Caretaker government is not doing their job. NAB/FIA and other agencies should be active to arrest the corrupt people.
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Why should they (Opposition) make govt? they are not fools or idealists. They are politicians.
Marks my words, If IK want stable govt then he should ate his words and go back to PPP...
Otherwise, he will be humiliated for the rest of his tenure endlessly.
Men in Green
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+64 PMLN = 153 its possibleok lets do the maths
PPP = 43
MMA = 13
MQM = 6
PMLQ = 4
IND = 13
JWP = 1
ANP = 1
GDA = 2
BNP = 2
BAP = 4
Total = 89
So the only possible way that PTI will not form the govt is that every single non PTI member joins together.
Not gona happen.
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tu vi saraiki ayee mareen
CHACHA"G"
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If opposition make Govt that will not going to work in favor of Pakistan , but they will keep it working for 5 years .
IK Govt with some independent and small parties can be failed at any given day by opposition …. As I said there is madness behind randi rona of opposition....
They all know what IK did in KPK , they will never allow IK to do that in Punjab and Center , they and their stooges in PTI will fail KHAN one day.....
This is fight of survival for these Mafias and there next Gen ……. They will do any thing and every thing.
