Friday prayers held in parts of pakistan amid strict lockdown

[Joe Shearer]

@Joe Shearer @Armchair

This is essentially loosely your conscription / militia debate.

But a different scenario.

Not war fighting.

But homeland defence.

One side is dead. The other is terminally crippled.

Now it's a populace on populace free for all with zero borders.

In such scenarios, power and water are gone.

Fide logistics are broken.

The populace us now fractured, leaderless, local, area dominant. Not even regional rallying points.

The violence and anarchy is not just national now.

There is essentially no nation construct left.

This is fine as a thought experiment, but the conditions are so bizarre that they can be coped with only by Mad Max. I am quite willing to exercise reasonable speculation on a reasonable scenario.

 

[padamchen]

This is fine as a thought experiment, but the conditions are so bizarre that they can be coped with only by Mad Max. I am quite willing to exercise reasonable speculation on a reasonable scenario.

Mad Max is rather xtreme.

Delhi and Islamabad are gone.

Maybe some state structure survives.

There is no central control.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Mad Max is rather xtreme.

Delhi and Islamabad are gone.

Maybe some state structure survives.

There is no central control.

This IS a post-nuclear scenario, right? I am worried that you do not find that extreme.

What is likely to happen is that the states of Ladakh, Jammu & Kashmir, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan, Gujarat(!!!) are likely to face the brunt of any post-holocaust hostility, although I imagine both populations will be too busy trying to figure out what to do for any serious fighting to break out. On the contrary, people suggesting war are likely to be set afloat on the ocean main without oars.

Is this what you are suggesting?

 

[padamchen]

This IS a post-nuclear scenario, right? I am worried that you do not find that extreme.

What is likely to happen is that the states of Ladakh, Jammu & Kashmir, Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan, Gujarat(!!!) are likely to face the brunt of any post-holocaust hostility, although I imagine both populations will be too busy trying to figure out what to do for any serious fighting to break out. On the contrary, people suggesting war are likely to be set afloat on the ocean main without oars.

Is this what you are suggesting?

Correct.

There have been nukes lobbed. Some cities are gone.

The Pakistani army in its dying throes nuked Delhi and Mumbai. Poona too probably.

India retaliated with Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi.

There is no central command.

There is no law.

There is no border.

There is no power grid. Landlines are working. So is patchy internet and cellular networks.

Why not Mad Max because rural India and Pakistan are relatively untouched.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Correct.

There have been nukes lobbed. Some cities are gone.

The Pakistani army in its dying throes nuked Delhi and Mumbai. Poona too probably.

India retaliated with Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi.

There is no central command.

There is no law.

There is no border.

There is no power grid. Landlines are working. So is patchy internet and cellular networks.

Why not Mad Max because rural India and Pakistan are relatively untouched.

Nukes don't destroy everything. It has limit. Many people will survive in cities even after being nuked. A city like delhi will need 100 1MT nuke to be almost heavily destroyed except for military bunkers and fortified infrastructure.

India has 70% population in villages and that means most of Indian population will be safe. I don't see how you claim that India will be crippled. Lack of central leadership doesn't mena crippled. People who survive will get another leader elevated. Considering the vastness of the population in villages and smaller cities and the presence of large number of grassroot leaders, the leadership crippling won't be significant.

 

[padamchen]

Nukes don't destroy everything. It has limit. Many people will survive in cities even after being nuked. A city like delhi will need 100 1MT nuke to be almost heavily destroyed except for military bunkers and fortified infrastructure.

India has 70% population in villages and that means most of Indian population will be safe. I don't see how you claim that India will be crippled. Lack of central leadership doesn't mena crippled. People who survive will get another leader elevated. Considering the vastness of the population in villages and smaller cities and the presence of large number of grassroot leaders, the leadership crippling won't be significant.

It's not difficult to cripple a country.

Nukes are not only to be used as people killers. Their main use would be as city and country killers first.

People killer use is more as a deterrent to future conflict. Thats not the scenario I'm painting.

But that discussion would derail the guns/militia issue.

 

[Trango Towers]

Despite the government's efforts to ensure that a lockdown stays in place, it has been reported that crowds are gathering in mosques for Friday prayer congregations in different parts of the country.


Asad Hashim

✔@AsadHashim
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At Islamabad's Red Mosque, hundreds have gathered for Friday midday congregational prayers, in defiance of government orders on social distancing in the wake of the country's coronavirus outbreak.



Asad Hashim

✔@AsadHashim

In contrast, other mosques in the Pakistani capital have also held congregational prayers, but advised people to maintain distance

all four of them do not deny Asr prayers. Stop threading the needle in matters of faith.

tum logon ko kisi ne bataya nahi ke amal ka daromadar niyyat per hai?

Now I am beginning to understand you.

amal ka daromadar niyyat per hai? So you are from that lot that goes round asking...how many day can you go on tablig for....I cannot due to my responsibilities....its ok brother just make the intention and Allah will accept...loooool.

Jahileeyat has some limit.

Remember you said they will observes social distancing...you have seen the pictures from this friday....I guess any of them die them may Allah hold you people responsible for the simple minded ones that you lot misguided.

 

[GHALIB]

Despite the government's efforts to ensure that a lockdown stays in place, it has been reported that crowds are gathering in mosques for Friday prayer congregations in different parts of the country.


Asad Hashim

✔@AsadHashim
· 1h

At Islamabad's Red Mosque, hundreds have gathered for Friday midday congregational prayers, in defiance of government orders on social distancing in the wake of the country's coronavirus outbreak.



Asad Hashim

✔@AsadHashim

In contrast, other mosques in the Pakistani capital have also held congregational prayers, but advised people to maintain distance between them when they pray. (This picture taken at a main mosque in the city's F8 sector.)



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The prayer congregations have been restricted to five people in order to curb the spread of the novel coronavirus. Yet, every Friday authorities face challenges in enforcing the rule as people gather for Friday prayers across the country.

Some mosques have ensured social distancing, however.
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red mosque people are attention seekers .

 

[El Sidd]

@Trango Towers

quote me correctly so i can reply

 

[GHALIB]

It's not difficult to cripple a country.

Nukes are not only to be used as people killers. Their main use would be as city and country killers first.

People killer use is more as a deterrent to future conflict. Thats not the scenario I'm painting.

But that discussion would derail the guns/militia issue.

we should also dvelop pao pao bhar ke nukes , as shekh rashid of pakistan has developed.

 

[terry5]

Indians sit at home polish there .....

lol

Pakistanis sit at home polish there guns

no better feeling than polish your gun at night but Indian doesn’t know about these things he watch **** and polish he’s ....

5000 rupees get loads of ammunition sit on hill smoke ghurdha and fire shots all through the night

Those days ......

keep watch Bollywood and hide behind your pc Indian’s lol anyhow you get gun you phuckers will put flower garlands around it get on your knees and feed ladoo to it

making me go to my garden and fire shots for nothing now lol

 

[Nilu Pule]

On the issue of guns we are different planets.

I have half a mind to start a what if thread for Indians later

What if our army falls and the armed hordes of Pakistan stream into India.

What sort of planning do we need?

Training. Logistics. Mobilization.

Most of us at max would have knives, sticks, hockeys, rods, and a couple of swords at home.

Maybe this is a program the RSS and HMS need to look into.

@aryadravida @Smarana Mitra @Nilu Pule @jamahir @Sultan Aibak @xeuss @Axomiya_lora @Joe Shearer @jbgt90 @prashantazazel @GHALIB @Jugger @Nilgiri

And knowledgeable Pakistanis

@SIPRA @Socra @DESERT FIGHTER @lastofthepatriots

Pakistani invasion is not on top of my mind.

Something else bothers me, Sir. We both know a special community residing in India has stock piled AK-47s and RDX

 

[padamchen]

Pakistani invasion is not on top of my mind.

Something else bothers me, Sir. We both know a special community residing in India has stock piled AK-47s and RDX

Do you know which was the last all Muslim regiment in the Indian Army?