French soldiers in CAR raped young children in exchange of food: UN Staff

[gau8av]

@jamahir bhai please get out of this 'eastern block/western block', 'capitalism vs communism' thing.. this is 2015, not the 80s and earlier.

sorry to break it to you but the eastern 'block' and communism is finished.. gone, fin, finito, khallas, khatam, dead and buried..

recent tensions between US/NATO and Russia have nothing to do with communism even if many of the militia fighters espouse the communist ideology, talk of soviet union 2.0 and wave the red flag.

China isn't communist either.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir bhai please get out of this 'eastern block/western block', 'capitalism vs communism' thing.. this is 2015, not the 80s and earlier.

sorry to break it to you but the eastern 'block' and communism is finished.. gone, fin, finito, khallas, khatam, dead and buried..

recent tensions between US/NATO and Russia have nothing to do with communism even if many of the militia fighters espouse the communist ideology, talk of soviet union 2.0 and wave the red flag.

the wars in syria and libya, and the destabilization of venezuela... the cold war is strong.

China isn't communist either.

it is sad that china is not as politically involved in global affairs now as it was during the korea war and vietnam war... it is sad to see china outwardly become consumerist... it is sad to see china become more nationalist than communist.

but still one cannot expect the chinese communist party to dissolve and forget socialism... china should militarily involve on the syrian side and help africa get rid of africom.

 

[gau8av]

the wars in syria and libya, and the destabilization of venezuela... the cold war is strong.

Syria and Libya are the result of the gulf kingdoms' quest for regional hegemony, no doubt with the US's blessings.. these are resource wars.

the cold war is over, the USSR collapsed and the commies lost, communist ideology is dead. People around the world value freedom and working to achieve their own goals rather then be spoon fed morsels by totalitarian big brother commie governments.

 

[flameboard]

the report just "alleges". Why will they rape black kids ?

What does that even mean?

Also people who say it uses the word "allege," well they have to do that until a court convicts them otherwise they risk legal retaliation for saying so.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Must have been way too desperate or drunk or just blackcurious.

 

[dilpakistani]

This reminds me of 1971 rape and massacre.Lakhs of innocent women were raped by barbarians.They were tied like cattles in makeshift harems.

Sure my friend and that reminded me of thousands of rapes still going in IHK Kashmir by Barbaric army who doesn't spare anyone from 8 -80 years old...

 

[jamahir]

Syria and Libya are the result of the gulf kingdoms' quest for regional hegemony, no doubt with the US's blessings.. these are resource wars.

oh, yes... 35+ nato militaries is just a "blessing"... sorry to say but your knowledge of global politics is not too great.

communist ideology is dead.

that is just your wish, hugely defeated by activism in the world, even through western people's movements like "occupy".

communist ideology is dead.
People around the world value freedom and working to achieve their own goals rather then be spoon fed morsels by totalitarian big brother commie governments.

freedom?? do you living in india know what it means??

oh, yes... people in india have freedom to suicide when they can no longer individually tolerate the inherent inequality and injustice of indian society.

i would rate india as the most totalitarian society in history, with usa in second place... remember the two ladies arrested in bombay for giving their opinion on how the death of bal thakeray should not mean bombay should shut down.

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socialism is eternal... every other thing is a passing fad.

 

[gau8av]

oh, yes... 35+ nato militaries is just a "blessing"... sorry to say but your knowledge of global politics is not too great.

I don't think you quite got what I was saying when I used the word 'blessing'

your knowledge of the english language is poor.

that is just your wish, hugely defeated by activism in the world, even through western people's movements like "occupy".

"occupy" what a joke that was, a bunch of American student slackers and commies

freedom?? do you living in india know what it means??

oh, yes... people in india have freedom to suicide when they can no longer individually tolerate the inherent inequality and injustice of indian society.

10 years of Modi government and all the commies will start committing suicide too, RIP in advance

no serious reply here because you always resort to these weak strawmen arguments.. everything bad in the world is 'capitalism's' fault and an injection of communism will solve it all.

i would rate india as the most totalitarian society in history, with usa in second place...

remember the two ladies arrested in bombay for giving their opinion on how the death of bal thakeray should not mean bombay should shut down.

yeah, this is how it should be when real leaders die:

 

[Gabriel92]

This is just allegations and accusations,doesn't mean it's true,let's wait to the investigation ends,then if it's not true i won't be surprised if they did that to ruin our reputation,(likey the did many times) but if it's true,those who did that should be punished.
Actually,nothing says its true,and all this story is suspect.

@jamahir

Lol,why are you whining ? @AUz

 

[jamahir]

This is just allegations and accusations,doesn't mean it's true,let's wait to the investigation ends,then if it's not true i won't be surprised if they did that to ruin our reputation,(likey the did many times) but if it's true,those who did that should be punished.
Actually,nothing says its true,and all this story is suspect.

@jamahir

okay then... though it is the uno staff alleging this.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

This is just allegations and accusations,doesn't mean it's true,let's wait to the investigation ends,then if it's not true i won't be surprised if they did that to ruin our reputation,(likey the did many times) but if it's true,those who did that should be punished.
Actually,nothing says its true,and all this story is suspect.

@jamahir

Lol,why are you whining ? @AUz

I regularly follow up on the CAR conflict and it is safe to state that the French troops are holding that place together. They achieved much more with their limited platoons than the entire AU dispatched troops including South Africa could achieve despite the AU deploying more than 4 times the number of French troops there. In fact the South African battalions beat a hasty retreat. There are various role players in the CAR who want the French army out since they hinder the selfish intent of these role players. I likewise wouldn't be surprised if these allegations were made to coerce France into removing its troops from the CAR

 

[Rajput_Pakistani]

Don't pass Judgement... Every culture follow a life-cycle

1. Born : Founded by men and claimed to be given by God,
2. Growth: Slow growth by adding Disciples, All means use to grow number
3. Barbarism: After being powerful, they become Barbaric. they try to implement there world order.
4. Maturity: they become mature and do things logically.
5. Decline process:
6. Struggle to survival,
7. Annihilation

Don't blame Islam, It is just 1500 year old culture/civilization/religion made by an Arab named Muhammad.
Islam is in its 3rd stage.
Christianism had reaches its 4th stage during renaissance.
Judaism and Hinduism is in its 6th Stage
Parsi is in its 7th stage..

We Muslims belong to Abraham religion. The same which was of Adam and Eve.
For us David, Solomon, Noah, Jesus all are Prophets. We respect them and they are all mention in our book Quran.
All of your above list may be true for Hindu or Janes but not Islam.

 

[moisrar47]

Disgusted..

 

[wolfschanzze]

lol man.
@wolfschanzze @SarthakGanguly @jamahir whats your opinion on this????

What can we say its called Emancipation ,white mans burden the White people were always this way,they learnt this barbarity and the others beside africa learnt it from them and took it to another level.
No not all nations go through such cycles.

 

[Taygibay]

@jamahir and the rest of course.

I'm not the type to shy away from problems. In fact, I'll treat the problem later today on my blog
amidst other news but PDF gets an advance version

I'll suppose the alleged facts did occur if only because I know enough about human nature not
to rule out any possibility no matter how harrowing. If they did …
Bad men exist in the French Armed Forces : no surprise, they do everywhere.
The report was transmitted to French authorities and treated. The proof that it was taken seriously
is there in the fact that the Paris procurer opened an inquiry (also indication something happened ) :
"French defence officials said they immediately conducted an internal inquiry into the allegations, and last July referred the matter to French prosecutors for a criminal investigation. That probe is being conducted by military police investigators who work under the Paris prosecutor, and who traveled last summer to Central African Republic, the ministry said."
French soldiers accused of sexual assault in Africa | African News | BDlive
Then the document was leaked which is a UN problem of rules on such things.

If then this happened, my concern as a human being that these guys are caught is foremost over my
concern as a French national and ex-soldier of its Army. And even if this happened, my next concern
is that they get caught. The only concern that may be of national level is to put things into perspective.
As @PlanetWarrior mentioned, the good has to outweigh the bad. So that this from the same link above :
"The allegations raise questions about French soldiering in Africa, where France has played the role of regional cop, partly due to its history as the former colonial power in much of Africa, including Central African Republic."
is ridiculous.

France was the only voice asking for intervention in CAR for months prior to UN accepting.
France went in to stop a massacre of epic proportions and did even losing soldiers.
To say it raises questions in the terms from the above quote about its soldiering amounts to asking
in subtle manner that it stops doing so. And the question becomes :

If not us then who?​

Who stopped extremists in Mali and is doing so now all over Sahel. Who offered to go to CAR but us?
In a perfect world, the AU would have the power to solve these crisis and I hope the time comes it can
and many times welcomed its performance as improving over the years but it still can't for now.
Let me remind you that there were troops in CAR prior to the French troops of Sangaris. That could do nothing!!!

In other words, and with the utmost compassion for these victims' suffering taken into account,
What if we were to put these boys in balance to the lives saved by our presence?
It is in my view already morally debased that I'd have to hint at this ratio to answer critics.
If French soldiers raped, I hope they pay for their crimes and I assure you it was not "organized".
The hierarchy would not condone this in any way. The pride of France does not rest on its citizens
being perfect; no nation on Earth can make such a claim. It rests on prosecuting and punishing them.

In civilian terms, linking the need and generosity of an operation to save a population would be as saying
Let's not send aid to Nepal because some doctors will make mistakes and some money poorly spent.
How much sense would that make exactly?

I'm personally very sad about the news of course.
Good day all, Tay.