FRENCH OFFICIAL TELLS KURDISH PROTESTERS TO GET OUT OF FRANCE

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@atatwolf @al-Hasani
not this endless debate again guys. especially @atatwolf , absolutely no need for unnecessary name calling, chill bro.

 

[al-Hasani]

@atatwolf @al-Hasani
not this endless debate again guys. especially @atatwolf , absolutely no need for unnecessary name calling, chill bro.

What are we supposed to do? This ignorant kid insults for no reason and has a long habit of doing so. Not sure what the hell his problem is other than an Arab stealing his sister or girlfriend or whatever it is.

His comments are even too dumb to comment on.

Maybe we Arabs should claim half of the world because we once ruled it forgetting that natives of for instance Al-Andalus have a bigger claim on those lands because they lived there much longer than we did.

Or what about half of Turkey?

But no if if I acted like Atatwolf I would troll Spaniards and Portuguese people by saying that Iberia is Arab. We even ruled it for 900 years. Turkmen have been present in Northern Iraq in large numbers for about 400-300 years only.

 

[atatwolf]

Those are facts. That's why you can't counter them. I even gave you sources but you are apparently too dumb to read those.

Mongol that is as dumb as the average inhabitant of an Mongolian yurt. See, I can also make dumb comments. Another thing, clown, Hijaz, my original region is a mountainous region that borders the tropical Red Sea. Your homeland are the steppes and deserts of Central Asia. So don't insult yourself.

LOL. Northern Iraq has been ruled by Semites for 6000 years. Turks are in the ME for 1000 years. Turkmen are present in Northern Iraq for 300 years and they are a minority to this day and always were.

Despite all this idiotwolf logic = Turkmen land.

You still didn't answer my question; do you think Arabs can unite?

 

[al-Hasani]

You still didn't answer my question; do you think Arabs can unite?

As a side note I'm not interested in reading your delusions about the ancient world

No, you are just interested in exposing your lack of historical knowledge and your childish behavior. But I am here to counter you whenever you start doing so and whenever you address me directly so no need to cry.

Can Turks unite? You don't even have a common alphabet, language nor even a Turkic Union with solely your 6-7 Turkic states and now you are starting your old usual talk about "can Arab unite". What the hell has this to do with the topic? We know what you are up to. We have had this debate a few times before and it all started with an insult and ended with one too.

Your unmotivated personal attack, trolling, historical nonsense in this thread was made with the sole intention to start some idiotic debate.

Stop being a two-faced child. Whenever you troll Chinese users you use Islam for your gain. Whenever it does not suit you, you start writing nonsense about Islam and starting your Tengri talk.

In short stop acting like a child. I don't care if you love or hate Arabs or other peoples. Not interested in that. What I am interested in is not wasting my time with your trolling or unmotivated nonsense.

If you want a serious debate I am here. If you want trolling and insults we can do it this way as you saw.

 

[atatwolf]

I won't respond to your views about ancient world since we won't agree on that.

Today's Arabs should be happy with their own identity. They don't need other people's civilization to boost their ego's.

Just be proud of your own culture and own history for that matter.

In short stop acting like a child. I don't care if you love or hate Arabs or other peoples. Not interested in that. What I am interested in is not wasting my time with your trolling or unmotivated nonsense.

I don't hate Arabs. You talked about great old Arabic empires out of nowhere and I asked you; do you think Arabs can unite? It is normal question. Don't take it personally

 

[al-Hasani]

I won't respond to your views about ancient world since we won't agree on that.

Today's Arabs should be happy with their own identity. They don't need other people's civilization to boost their ego's.

Just be proud of your own culture and own history for that matter.

What is there to agree with? Those are historical facts. It's like saying that the Moon is the Earth. But if you insist on exposing your lack of historical knowledge and nonsense claims then go ahead. Who stops you? After all you have made this your habit.

Our people are Arabs and Semites. Arabs are Semites and Semites compose Arabs. That's all. We don't use others as those two are more than enough. This is exactly our own culture and history just as Turkish AND Turkic history is your own culture and history.

But once again I guess it comes down to the lack of knowledge from your side.

 

[1000]

Kirkuk ( Arrapha ) and Mosul were founded in ancient times, prior to arrival of Turkic people to the ME and prior to the arrival of Islam, this is not my opinion this is solid history which I can't change. As for demographics, today Mosul is mostly Iraqi Arab inhabited along with Assyrians, Kerkuk is a mixed city with Iraqi Arabs & Iraqi Turkmen together forming about 50% and Kurds the other half unless Tarzani cleansing reduced that. Though Turkmen in Iraq are not separatists, neither are Assyrians ( except the diaspora ), the only separatists are Kurds.

Anyway i don't care about this, PDF is full of nationalists emperors but it's all unrealistic, theres more important real stuff going on in the ME to worry about threatening the region

 

[al-Hasani]

Kirkuk ( Arrapha ) and Mosul were founded in ancient times, prior to arrival of Turkic people to the ME and prior to the arrival of Islam, this is not my opinion this is solid history which I can't change. As for demographics, today Mosul is mostly Iraqi Arab inhabited along with Assyrians, Kerkuk is a mixed city with Iraqi Arabs & Iraqi Turkmen together forming about 50% and Kurds the other half unless Tarzani cleansing reduced that. Though Turkmen in Iraq are not separatists, neither are Assyrians ( except the diaspora ), the only separatists are Kurds.

Anyway i don't care about this, PDF is full of nationalists emperors but it's all unrealistic

Lies. This must be "Arab propaganda". Can't be truth. Mosul and Kirkuk are TURKMEN!!!!!1
Idiotwolf on PDF said so.

This idiot creates animosity for no reason as always. A serial troll. Not sure what is wrong with him. In any case my replies are solely meant to him as he was the one that started insulting and started with the personal insults.

 

[atatwolf]

We don't have to agree on everything. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[al-Hasani]

We don't have to agree on everything. Let's agree to disagree.

Look, I got nothing against Turks nor Turkey but it is obvious for all that you have a problem with Arabs. For the past 10 days I have been a fierce defender of Turkey when most others were trolling Turkey and Turks and making up nonsense stories and my Turkish friends here on PDF repaid that favor in the sense that a lot of similar nonsense is written about the Arab countries that are against Al-Assad. In other words we were on the same boat this time around.
Currently we have the same enemies as well. But what do you do? Well, you make an UNMOTIVATED personal insult, provoke intentionally, write historical nonsense and when countered (in a normal tone) you make another personal insult. Why is that?

As I said you can love or hate Arabs. I don't care. The only thing I demand is normal behavior. If you want a normal discussion I am here as I told you and I don't hold grudges. I have had heated discussions with almost everybody here at some point. That's part of PDF.

I can even be as accommodating as proposing to delete my posts from today under the condition that you do the same. This way the problem gets solved and nobody (at least not me) will think about this discussion anymore not that I do anyway but you get the point.

So it's up to you now.

 

[atatwolf]

Look, I got nothing against Turks nor Turkey but it is obvious for all that you have a problem with Arabs. For the past 10 days I have been a fierce defender of Turkey when most others were trolling Turkey and Turks and making up nonsense stories and my Turkish friends here on PDF repaid that favor in the sense that a lot of similar nonsense is written about the Arab countries that are against Al-Assad. In other words we were on the same boat this time around.
Currently we have the same enemies as well. But what do you do? Well, you make an UNMOTIVATED personal insult, provoke intentionally, write historical nonsense and when countered (in a normal tone) you make another personal insult. Why is that?

As I said you can love or hate Arabs. I don't care. The only thing I demand is normal behavior. If you want a normal discussion I am here as I told you and I don't hold grudges. I have had heated discussions with almost everybody here at some point. That's part of PDF.

I can even be as accommodating as proposing to delete my posts from today under the condition that you do the same. This way the problem gets solved and nobody (at least not me) will think about this discussion anymore not that I do anyway but you get the point.

I already said we will never agree on history and there is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't influence my view of current Turkish Arab relations which are good. My problem is that you call me a troll for having another view. That is when I used that word to describe you.

 

[al-Hasani]

I already said we will never agree on history and there is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't influence my view of current Turkish Arab relations which are good. My problem is that you call me a troll for having another view. That is when I used that word to describe you.

You are basically inventing your own history now and it is scary that you cannot realize this. How can you have your "own view on history" (Kirkuk, Mosul examples aside from the historical facts I wrote and provided sources for) when factual events are discussed. It's like denying that Turkey is a republic despite it being written in the Turkish Constitution that Turkey is indeed a republic. If I acted like you I would say no, Turkey is a communist state. You would then obviously write nonsense and ask why and I would say I do not know why. Ultimately we would just agree to disagree.

We are not discussing politics but pure historical facts. Simple even. Something as who founded which cities how long ago, who ruled them for the longest time and who inhabit them today. It's not about what happened in Kirkuk 256BC.

1+1 = 2. You are basically saying that 1+1 = 3.

LOL. Who even mentioned you before you started your insults?

You were also the same user that once said that Sumerians were Turkic. That kind of retarded claims are difficult to take seriously. No offense. But it is like saying that Istanbul is the capital of Russia. Something along those lines.

 

[Ceylal]

Thats why your mentality and fight will never win..

My mentality is when a whole town being massacred 2 feet from my borders, I'll help. That a country like mine did, when western saharan olds, women and children that were fleeing Moroccan airforce's bombs and Napalm...The same help was given to the ones fleeing Lybia under Nato bombs and on and on...And we lack the means that Turkey has at her disposal , not talking about distance that Algeria had to go to get them....to a safe place
And an honorable Turkish action to save Kobane and her inhabitants, would have certainly brought the dissident Kurds to the fold, now you give them more ammunitions and reason to dissent.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Turkey should take back Iraq and Syria under its wings

 

[damm1t]

My mentality is when a whole town being massacred 2 feet from my borders, I'll help.

What whole town you talking about? It's a ghost town now, ghosts of

pkk/ypg dogs...

And an honorable Turkish action to save Kobane and her inhabitants, would have certainly brought the dissident Kurds to the fold, now you give them more ammunitions and reason to dissent.

We already accept the civilians and have no intention to arm the PKK/YPG rats, better them to kill each other... We gave 30k loss to PKK terror over decades and we tried the best we can to solve the problem but unfortunately the kurds are ungrateful people, the highest crime rates in Turkey is among kurds including thief, assaults, robbing, surprised? Narco-barons are kurds, they are in every illegal sector in Turkey, they have all right to access everything free of state, even they use free electricity, yes they steal it too and you know who pays the tax off stolen energy? I do, and the good citizens of my country. We are fed up of these uneducated monkeys, they make children like fvcking animals, average 6-10 each family, to get paid by the state and to grow population in order to say " we are the biggest nation without a state "... In spite of everything my country keep accepting refugees from danger zone without any segregation no matter kurd or arab...

UNHRC - The Unites States Refugee Agency
In Turkey, government officials say more than 172,500 Syrians fleeing Kobane and surrounds have entered the country over the last few weeks. While the vast majority of these fled in the first few days of the influx, a steady stream continues with average daily arrivals of about 570 people over the past few days through the Yumurtalik border crossing.
UNHCR - Growing number of Syrian refugees from Kobane seek safety in northern Iraq, eastern Syria

Some 160,000 people are estimated to have fled Kobane in recent weeks

Many of the thousands of people who have fled the fighting between Islamic State (IS) militants and fighters from the Syrian Kurdish YPG in Kobane in Syria have reached the relative safety of south-eastern Turkey. In the town of Suruc.

BBC News - Kobane: Survival stories from Kobane refugees

Turkey should take back Iraq and Syria under its wings

No thanks mate... It would be better if we split out the ground and send them away to far far away from us...