France Wants Rafale Fighter Price For India Same As That Of Egypt, Qatar

[Zarvan]

Negotiations between India and France on the purchase of 36 Dassault Rafale aircraft could drag on till this year end due to differences over price among other issues.

France wants the Rafale fighters for India to be priced at the same level as what has been contracted with Egypt and Qatar, French media reported earlier this week. India and France started a negotiating for a new deal for 36 fighters in May this year after abandoning negotiations for 126 fighters which had dragged on three years.

While the price asked by France this time around, reported to be US$8 billion, is more in terms of unit price than under the previous deal, the French side is insisting that it cannot sell at a price below what has been sold to Egypt and Qatar. France is in the running for other sales of the Rafale, notably with the UAE and Malaysia and wishes to maintain its price level in these markets.

“Had India closed the deal for 126 fighters, it would have got a very good price,” said a French source on condition of anonymity. In three years, the price of the Rafale has gone up for all customers including the French Air Force and the Indian order is cut by three fourths.

The Egypt and Qatar orders are together worth more than the Indian order and potential new orders could further push the Indian deal lower in priority. Naturally India would have to pay more, he added.

An Indian news agency report said today that the negotiations could take a month more and that the two sides are working at a hectic pace with every effort being made to wrap up the talks fast.

France Wants Rafale Fighter Price For India Same As That Of Egypt, Qatar

 

[Tameem]

8 Billion/36 = 222.222 Million per Plane..Wow
1 Rafale = 3.5 SU 35s......and on top of it SU35s is still better plane

 

[Humble Analyst]

Negotiations between India and France on the purchase of 36 Dassault Rafale aircraft could drag on till this year end due to differences over price among other issues.

France wants the Rafale fighters for India to be priced at the same level as what has been contracted with Egypt and Qatar, French media reported earlier this week. India and France started a negotiating for a new deal for 36 fighters in May this year after abandoning negotiations for 126 fighters which had dragged on three years.

While the price asked by France this time around, reported to be US$8 billion, is more in terms of unit price than under the previous deal, the French side is insisting that it cannot sell at a price below what has been sold to Egypt and Qatar. France is in the running for other sales of the Rafale, notably with the UAE and Malaysia and wishes to maintain its price level in these markets.

“Had India closed the deal for 126 fighters, it would have got a very good price,” said a French source on condition of anonymity. In three years, the price of the Rafale has gone up for all customers including the French Air Force and the Indian order is cut by three fourths.

The Egypt and Qatar orders are together worth more than the Indian order and potential new orders could further push the Indian deal lower in priority. Naturally India would have to pay more, he added.

An Indian news agency report said today that the negotiations could take a month more and that the two sides are working at a hectic pace with every effort being made to wrap up the talks fast.

France Wants Rafale Fighter Price For India Same As That Of Egypt, Qatar

Time someone showed India how the negotiations are done.

 

[45'22']

8 Billion/36 = 222.222 Million per Plane..Wow
1 Rafale = 3.5 SU 35s......and on top of it SU35s is still better plane

We got mki'S which is simillar to 35s in cost as well as performance....
Rafales are not only better than 35s but are also more suited for the Indian doctrine
But price is damn high

 

[Luca1]

8 Billion/36 = 222.222 Million per Plane..Wow
1 Rafale = 3.5 SU 35s......and on top of it SU35s is still better plane

Well, since India is reporting its GDP using Vedic math, France can turn the table and secure a deal using the same math.

On the serious note, it's it's one thing to bargain in the market, another while purchase advance planes. What make India so special that France would give India a better deal? If anything, it's the dassault that is screwed. All other manufacturers are now sighed in relief that they didn't won this MMRCA scam. What India is doing is a requesting a wholesale price with an intention of a big order. When the time comes to place the actual PO, it's a smaller order. But India shamelessly demand the same terms as the previous big order.

 

[45'22']

Time someone showed India how the negotiations are done.

If the offset clause is still thr then they will be investing 30 percent which is around 2.4 billion usd back in India

Well, since India is reporting its GDP using Vedic math, France can turn the table and secure a deal using the same math.

On the serious note, it's it's one thing to bargain in the market, another while purchase advance planes. What make India so special that France would give India a better deal? If anything, it's the dassault that is screwed. All other manufacturers are now sighed in relief that they didn't won this MMRCA scam. What India is doing is a requesting a wholesale price with an intention of a big order. When the time comes to place the actual PO, it's a smaller order. But India shamelessly demand the same price as the previous big order.

In real word, saab,lockheed,mikoyan and.eurofighter are still trying to sell their fighter

Why am i replying to a troll

 

[Luca1]

If the offset clause is still thr then they will be investing 30 percent which is around 2.4 billion usd back in India

The offset clause should be the same as the Egyptian deal...

 

[45'22']

The offset clause should be these was the Egyptian deal...

Didnt get u

 

[Muhammad Omar]

We got mki'S which is simillar to 35s in cost as well as performance....
Rafales are not only better than 35s but are also more suited for the Indian doctrine
But price is damn high

Su-35 Similar to Su-30 MKI

 

[Luca1]

If the offset clause is still thr then they will be investing 30 percent which is around 2.4 billion usd back in India


In real word, saab,lockheed,mikoyan and.eurofighter are still trying to sell their fighter

Why am i replying to a troll

They would only sell it in their own term. Not the one India imposed on Daussault.

Didnt get u

Whatever offset Egypt get, India will get. It's essentially the same size order.

 

[45'22']

They would only sell it in their own term. Not the one India imposed on Daussault.

We ll see

Su-35 Similar to Su-30 MKI

35S are indeed better with irbis radar and rac coating
Super sukhois will be having d.same.i guess

 

[Indus Falcon]

@Taygibay @Gabriel92 Gentlemen

1) What was the per unit price for the Egyptian and Qatari deals?

2) Given that the UAE and Malaysia are negotiating as well, what would be the price for the IAF?


Best Regards

 

[chhota bheem]

Well, since India is reporting its GDP using Vedic math, France can turn the table and secure a deal using the same math.

On the serious note, it's it's one thing to bargain in the market, another while purchase advance planes. What make India so special that France would give India a better deal? If anything, it's the dassault that is screwed. All other manufacturers are now sighed in relief that they didn't won this MMRCA scam. What India is doing is a requesting a wholesale price with an intention of a big order. When the time comes to place the actual PO, it's a smaller order. But India shamelessly demand the same price as the previous big order.

$222 million for plane and F 33 program looks cheaper.

 

[Luca1]

We ll see


35S are indeed better with irbis radar and rac coating
Super sukhois will be having d.same.i guess

Why would Dassault give India a better deal if other guys are buying 24 planes each while India is getting 36? If India gets a better deal, all other guys would want their money back. Would Daussault want that?

 

[45'22']

Why would Dassault give India a better deal if other guys are buying 24 planes each while India is getting 36? If India gets a better deal, all other guys would want their money back. Would Daussault want that?

Does.US provides f16 to all countries at the same price?