France summons Pakistan envoy over criticism of ‘separatism’ bill

[Aryeih Leib]

When you guys will stop interfering in other countries internal matters ?

 

[El Sidd]

This statement is just a tip of the iceberg. This Rafale deal is a big hush money package. That's why no furore was created in the aftermath of August 5, 2019. @padamchen

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Why do you deliberately misinterpret? Read post#7.

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If you keep bringing India into this, you would get your suicide wish

No he is saying India is using her taxpayer money to bolster European moribund economies to further her own sovereign interests.

This Muslim thing is only in the mind of .... Muslims.

Cheers, Doc

Didnt the French colonised parts of what is modern day India?

I would believe you that it's just Muslim mind if OP was not Indian or if he was French.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

Are you saying India is using and exploiting far right extremism in Europe and North America due to shared Islamophobic interests?

Did they ban Islam or Muslims? This bill aims to reduce extremism according to France.

 

[padamchen]

If you keep bringing India into this, you would get your suicide wish

Didnt the French colonised parts of what is modern day India?

I would believe you that it's just Muslim mind if OP was not Indian or if he was French.

The Turks colonised you too.

But you love them. No?

I did not mention Iranians because I know it sets off a chemical reaction in your brain that is not conducive to good repartee.

Cheers, Doc

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

When you guys will stop interfering in other countries internal matters ?

never. what are you going to do about it?

 

[El Sidd]

Did they ban Islam or Muslims? This bill aims to reduce extremism according to France.

By singling out one community?

The bill is aimed at Neo Fascist Appeasement.

I would rather have Dickens teach me religion than discuss this with an Indian.

 

[HostileInsurgent]

By singling out one community?

The bill is aimed at Neo Fascist Appeasement.

I would rather have Dickens teach me religion than discuss this with an Indian.

This came after the beheading of a teacher, else they were not in a mood to do it.

 

[syedtalhamaududi]

Positive, no reason to be good to the French

 

[El Sidd]

The Turks colonised you too.

But you love them. No?

I did not mention Iranians because I know it sets off a chemical reaction in your brain that is not conducive to good repartee.

Cheers, Doc

How? I want you to explain this.

You can discuss the racial part gladly later. It's a French thread

This came after the beheading of a teacher, else they were not in a mood to do it.

France has a history of beheadings comparable to Mahabhrata epics.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Spat comes after Pakistani President Arif Alvi called on Paris to abandon controversial bill, claiming the law would discriminate against Muslims.


The remarks by President Arif Alvi came after PM Imran Khan accused France of encouraging Islamophobia [File: Chudary Naseer/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images]
23 Feb 2021
The French foreign ministry has summoned Pakistan’s envoy to protest against claims by President Arif Alvi that a French bill cracking down on what it terms “Islamist extremism” stigmatises Muslims.
Addressing a conference on religion on Saturday, Alvi said: “When you see that laws are being changed in favour of a majority to isolate a minority, that is a dangerous precedent.”


Specifically referring to the legislation drafted after the beheading of a French teacher over cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad, Alvi said: “When you insult the prophet, you insult all Muslims.

“I urge the political leadership of France not to entrench these attitudes into laws … You have to bring people together – not to stamp a religion in a certain manner and create disharmony among the people or create bias.”

Pakistan was one of several Muslim countries that saw angry anti-French protests in October over President Emmanuel Macron’s defence of the right to show cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Pakistan, a country with the second-largest number of Muslims in the world after Indonesia, does not have an ambassador in France.

The French foreign ministry said late Monday it had called in Pakistan’s charge d’affaires to mark “our surprise and our disapproval (over Alvi’s remarks), given that the bill contains no discriminatory element”.

“It is guided by the basic principles of freedom of religion and conscience, makes no distinction between the different religions and applies therefore equally to all faiths,” the ministry said.

“Pakistan must understand this and adopt a constructive attitude for our bilateral relations,” it added.


The bill adopted by the lower house of the French parliament last week is dubbed the “anti-separatism” bill in reference to Macron’s claim that “Islamists” are closing themselves off from French society by refusing to embrace secularism, gender equality and other French values.

The legislation significantly expands the state’s powers to close religious organisations and places of worship if they are found to air “theories or ideas” that “provoke hate or violence towards a person or people”.


It also creates a new crime of “separatism” – described as threatening a public servant to gain “a total or partial exemption or different application of the rules” – that is punishable by up to five years in prison.

Pakistan’s government has been particularly virulent in its condemnation of Macron’s clampdown, which followed a wave of attacks in recent years on French soil.

Prime Minister Imran Khan in October accused Macron on Sunday of “attacking Islam” and choosing to “encourage Islamophobia” for defending the right to publish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

France summons Pakistan envoy over criticism of ‘separatism’ bill

Spat comes after Pakistan’s president called on Paris to drop controversial law, saying it stigmatises Muslims.

www.aljazeera.com

Pakistan (22 Feb. 2021)

The chargé d'affaires of the Embassy of Pakistan in France has been summoned to the Ministry for Europe and Foreign Affairs following the remarks (…)

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr

Was in France a couple of years back. I do not think this is about Extremism or Islam but demographic changes in France. France has a huge Muslim Population that is growing exponentially. This bill is try to "Westernize" these Muslims. Conversely in Morocco there are plenty of retired ethnic French and Belgian citizens living there. Particularly in Marrakech.

A lot of White Western Women are converting to Islam. That is another reason for the bill. Here is a research done on why so many White Western women convert to Islam:

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[HostileInsurgent]

comparable to Mahabhrata epics.

Don’t bring us or our religion here for no reason, I’m talking to you politely so I expect the same from you, plus you can’t compare Mahabharat with what happened to the teacher. And Mahabharat was a war, not some “Katlkhaana”.

so a country of 1.4 billion has to purchase the advanced military technology invented by a nation of 67 million because they can neither invent nor make it themselves

Another brainfart.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

And Mahabharat was a war

all the shinobi wars in Naruto were more plausible than Mahabharat.

 

[El Sidd]

Don’t bring us or our religion here for no reason, I’m talking to you politely so I expect the same from you, plus you can’t compare Mahabharat with what happened to the teacher. And Mahabharat was a war, not some “Katlkhaana”.

Did the French outsource the media propaganda to Indian IT cells?

Nobody wants to bring you anywhere aboard any ship any longer Indian.

 

[Riz]

When you guys will stop interfering in other countries internal matters ?

Freedom of expression u fool

 

[Deltadart]

Are you saying India is using and exploiting far right extremism in Europe and North America due to shared Islamophobic interests?

...it is a fact that hatred of Islam, now forms a crucial corner stone of bharti foreign policy. Their alliances with known islam hating nations speaks for themselves. Their so called mutual interest with those powers are to suppress muslims, by promoting divisions, and infighting amongst us. Ultimate objective is to keep us weak while they rule over us. Only ones oblivious to this reality are the GCC, and other muslim nations who don't really study or know what hindu fascism is ,and what it has in store for muslims eventually. Step one for hindu fascists is to fully dominate and pacify their muslim neighbors, and then go after far away muslims.