France declares April 24 "Day of Remembrance for Armenian Genocide'

[Swordbreaker12]

Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ is not Bosnian...

Watch the interview that I have posted

 

[CAN_TR]

Watch the interview that I have posted

Father comes from Adana and has Bosnian roots, Mother is Turkish from Edirne.
Google.

 

[Cthulhu]

Indeed Armenian Genocide it was a horrible genocide.

 

[CAN_TR]

Indeed Armenian Genocide it was a horrible genocide.

Yeah so horrible that 1,5 Million of totally 1,2 Million Armenian citizen died and hundreds of thousand fleed to Europe/America.

 

[MMM-E]

in reality nobody can prove it , and there is no legal decision ,, because of its a big lie

only political fantasies by France , Germany and other countries ..... nothing else
keep crying who failed to create big Armenia in 1915



What about Europeans ( France,the UK,Spain,Portugal,Italy,Belgium,the Netherlands ) who slaughtered over 100 million people in America,Africa, Middle East,India,Asia and Australia in the last 500 years ?

Yeah so horrible that 1,5 Million of totally 1,2 Million Armenian citizen died and hundreds of thousand fleed to Europe/America.

to Iran and Lebanon as well

 

[Nein]

Turkey should have a day dedicated to Arab and African victims of French Colonialism.

Fight fire with fire.

 

[-SINAN-]

Watch the interview that I have posted

Boşnak and Bosnian are two different things.

 

[sammuel]

Yeah so horrible that 1,5 Million of totally 1,2 Million Armenian citizen died and hundreds of thousand fleed to Europe/America.

There is no argument that hundreds of thousands of Armenians where in fact butchered in cold blood. So i see no place here for your " happy face ... "

While Ottoman censuses claimed an Armenian population of 1.2 million, Fa'iz El-Ghusein (the Kaimakam of Kharpout) wrote that there were about 1.9 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire,[148] and some modern scholars estimate over 2 million.[149] German official Max Erwin von Scheubner-Richter wrote that fewer than 100,000 Armenians survived the genocide, the rest having been exterminated (German: ausgerottet)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

Armenian 'genocide': What happened, how many people died and why is it still causing debate?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-why-is-it-still-causing-debate-10196281.html

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey has milllions of documents to prove everything what happaned in 1915
France,Armenia and otheers are lying and they can not prove anything about so-called 1,5 million Armenian Genocide

only political fantasies by France , Germany and other countries ..... nothing else



Total Population of the Empire in 1914
Total Amount of Population and Distribution by Ethnic Groups

Muslims : 15.044.846
Greeks : 1.729.738
Armenians : 1.161.169

 

[313ghazi]

Will this be the day before or after the one dedicated to French Genocide in Africa? I assume there is a day dedicated to French Genocide in Africa.

 

[urienreghed]

Turkey should have a day dedicated to Arab and African victims of French Colonialism.

Fight fire with fire.

Sure.
Everyone should have dedicated day too for the natives in Australia massacred too

 

[Nein]

Sure.
Everyone should have dedicated day too for the natives in Australia massacred too

Australians aint hypocritical like you Frenchies and Europeans.

Only reason you recognise this genocide bullcrap is due to politics and lobbying by the Armenians. Plus you Europeans hate Turks a lot no surprise you guys are vouching for some Armenoids.

 

[sammuel]

Turkey has milllions of documents to prove everything what happaned in 1915
France,Armenia and otheers are lying and they can not prove anything about so-called 1,5 million Armenian Genocide

only political fantasies by France , Germany and other countries ..... nothing else



Total Population of the Empire in 1914
Total Amount of Population and Distribution by Ethnic Groups

Muslims : 15.044.846
Greeks : 1.729.738
Armenians : 1.161.169

you know well enough that the figures in the 1906 census are problematic, seems you ignore all other estimates ( like church records ) and choose only that which fits your agenda :



" There have been various Western records representing the Armenian population, but demographic figures representing the total Armenian population within the Ottoman Empire were few. The problem with such figures is that they do not cover the same regions. For instance, many times “Anatolia” is equalled with the Ottoman Empire. Other times there are partial statistics representing one region, like Turkish Armenia, Ottoman Armenia, Asiatic Turkey, Anatolia, Ottoman Empire, 6 Armenian Villeyets, 9 Armenian Villeyets etc.

Another problem with the figures is that those numbers were drawn from a period of about 20 to 30 years, mostly from 1890 to 1915. German official figures representing the Armenian population within the Empire were about 1.9 million to 2 million.[11] side of 1.8 million.[12] Ludovic de Contenson, present the figure of 1,150,000 for Asiatic Turkey, and call them “statistics” without any sources. His numbers suggest that they might actually be the Ottoman census statistics, without correction.[13] Another problem arises, and it is the fact that the Ottoman census statistics have maintained constant increase for the Armenian population from the period where between 1894–1897, an estimated 100,000 to 300,000 Armenians lost their lives during theHamidian massacres. While the minimum in the range represent the Armenian increases of population over years, the 1905 census hasn't shown any anomaly of Armenian increases, which suggest that there might have been a fixed quota of Armenian population, and that regardless of the census, there were much more Armenians within the Empire. Another element that add, is that many Armenians, like many Jews and Christians, were considered as foreigners, because they had foreign nationalities or enjoyed the protection of foreign consulates and those for were not counted in those census statistics.

The result of all those factors, is that the Armenian population censuses, according to the specialists that criticize them, is an important under counting of the Armenian population, that could have gone as far as misrepresenting it by half. Lynch critic itself regarding the inclusion of all the Muslims together, when there were probably Armenians in the count, is supported by the Ottoman census, that contain an anomaly that in some region like Van, the Muslim population from one census to another jumped to about 50%, suggesting that numbers for the Ottoman government could have been used as political tool, and went as far as transferring Armenians in the table as Muslim. In fact Ottoman census didn't define any ethnic groups, only religious ones. In this context Armenian meant an adherent of Armenian Apostolic Church not an ethnic Armenian. Ethnic Armenians who claimed to be Muslims were counted as Muslims, Armenian Protestants were counted as others. So Ottoman records aren't reliable sources- the problem is that they don't give the ethnic breakup of the population, only the religious one.[citation needed] The fact that the 1912 records are based on a census that was conducted under the Hamidian regime, according to the critics, makes it dubious. Turkish records as also suggest that sultan Hamid might have intentionally under-counted the Armenian population. The Turkish author Kâzım Kadri writes, “During the reign of Abdul Hamid we lowered the population figures of the Armenians...” He adds, “By the order of Abdul Hamid the number of the Armenians deliberately had been put in low figures.”[14]

Other evidence suggests such under-counts cut in half the actual Armenian population. In the district of Mus (compromising Mus plain, Sassoun, and the counties of Mus) for example, the Armenian official in charge of the census, Garabed Potigian, presented the official figures as 225,000 Armenians and 55,000 Turks. Upon the insistence of his Turkish superiors he was forced to reduce the Armenian population to 105,000 and increase the Turkish population to 95,000.[15] Lynch himself report similar incidences: “Pursuing our way, we meet an Armenian priest—a young, broad-shouldered, open-faced man. He seems inclined to speak, so we ask him how many churches there may be in Mush (Mus). He answers, seven; but the commissary had said four. A soldier addresses him in Kurdish; the poor fellow turns pale, and remarks that he was mistaken in saying seven; there cannot be more than four ...Such are a few of our experiences during our short sojourn at Mush.”[16]

Sultan Hamid apparently considered the under evaluation presented to him of 900,000 as exaggeration.[17] The German chief of staff of the Ottoman Third Army, Colonel Felix Guse, complained that "The Turks knew only poorly their country, on top of that the possibility of getting reliable statistical figures was out of the question.[18] Fa'iz El-Ghusein, the Kaimakam of Kharpout, wrote in his book, that according to the Ottoman official statistics there were about 1.9 million Armenian's in the Ottoman Empire.[19] Another indication that other statistics might have existed is that Polybius in his book published in 1919, refer to a said “Ottoman Official Census of 1910.” The Turkish historian Dr. Secil Akgun, claimed: “The Ottomans do not have a definite number. That is, we have in our hands contradictory numbers regarding the Armenian population within the borders of the Ottoman Empire. I would think that Basmacıyan gives the most accurate number. This is to be between two and three million.”[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottom...#Arguments_of_Armenian_population_controversy

 

[urienreghed]

Australians aint hypocritical like you Frenchies and Europeans.

Only reason you recognise this genocide bullcrap is due to politics and lobbying by the Armenians. Plus you Europeans hate Turks a lot no surprise you guys are vouching for some Armenoids.

probably
but still you massacred and took the country of other people. and still live there. not saying the rights these natives have.

you really should avoid give lessons

 

[Nein]

probably
but still you massacred and took the country of other people. and still live there. not saying the rights these natives have.

you really should avoid give lessons

Armenians actually have themselves to blame teams up with the Allies to take on the Ottoman Empire.

Goes around killing and murdering Turks when the Turks fight back its muh genocide.

By the way strong always conquers the weak how ironic this is coming from Europeans who are crying over a bunch of weaklings who got rolled over.

At the end of day this whole ordeal is politics. Then again if the Whole world recognise this genocide bullshit its not like Turkey will be isolated or sanctioned till death to recognise it.