What's new

Foxbat over Pakistan the facts & fiction

Brother,
the basic point is your Mig25 was tracked, that's the point.

All their aircraft are tracked since 1977. Our ADGE was mostly India centric doesn't go on a holiday. Anytime, an aircraft turns inside, it finds two facing it. A lot of scrambles and CAPs are based in prior intelligence, and on pre-emptive prevention.

However, so are the IAF. During the ATL shooting down, as our aircraft made CAPs on the border, so did theirs. This is a cat and mouse game in which neither side sleeps. All these claims of recce missions over each other side is to boost morale and nothing more.

IAF has suffered tremendously at the hand of soviet hardware and politics in their procurement. They constantly need to boost their image as their own media is highly sceptical and critical, being more free than PK. Arguing whether F16s can intercept foxbats is juvenile, and for video gamers.
 
.
Those who know me and matter know well where I'm coming from, rest are irrelevant.

In your fanciful world ; if an IAF plane crashes then PAF has shot it down

And all your leaders expressed helplessness after MiG 25 Sonic boom
but YOU alone had locked on an Imaginary F 16 on to The MIG 25

You should stick to 1965

Arguing whether F16s can intercept foxbats is juvenile, and for video gamers.

Yes it cannot when the Foxbat is flying at 74000 Feet

Especially the F 16 A/ B of 1997
 
.
In your fanciful world ; if an IAF plane crashes then PAF has shot it down

And all your leaders expressed helplessness after MiG 25 Sonic boom
but YOU alone had locked on an Imaginary F 16 on to The MIG 25

You should stick to 1965
Aww, is the foxbat over Isb only thing you have to hold on to?
 
. .
In your fanciful world ; if an IAF plane crashes then PAF has shot it down

And all your leaders expressed helplessness after MiG 25 Sonic boom
but YOU alone had locked on an Imaginary F 16 on to The MIG 25

You should stick to 1965



Yes it cannot when the Foxbat is flying at 74000 Feet

Especially the F 16 A/ B of 1997

You are talking about something, rather foolishly arguing about it, while I was in Sargodha and saw the whole mission. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot to you &%*%$s.

Should I bring in Kargil

Yes dear, bring it, but unlike your fanciful stories of Mig-29s over Dras, my information is still classified.
BR
 
.
In your fanciful world ; if an IAF plane crashes then PAF has shot it down

And all your leaders expressed helplessness after MiG 25 Sonic boom
but YOU alone had locked on an Imaginary F 16 on to The MIG 25

You should stick to 1965
Where are these supernatural untraceable Foxbat now ? In a junk yard why ? Because after many years IAF realizes that these are no better than junk or flying coffins no spare parts no high end electronics.

Should I bring in Kargil
Yes please and tell us how two jets of IAF shot down even one pilot arrested and enjoyed our hospitality.
 
.
You are talking about something, rather foolishly arguing about it, while I was in Sargodha and saw the whole mission. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot to you &%*%$s.



Yes dear, bring it, but unlike your fanciful stories of Mig-29s over Dras, my information is still classified.
BR

Could you please write down an Article instead of clinging on to some so called
classified information -- with your real name ; photograph and designation
LIKE Kaiser Tufail

That would be really useful and worthwhile

Where are these supernatural untraceable Foxbat now ? In a junk yard why ? Because after many years IAF realizes that these are no better than junk or flying coffins no spare parts no high end electronics.

Madam ; have you heard of spy satellites

Our satellites have a resolution of 50 CENTIMETRES
 
.
Could you please write down an Article instead of clinging on to some so called
classified information -- with your real name ; photograph and designation
LIKE Kaiser Tufail

That would be really useful and worthwhile
Thanks for your suggestion. Kaiseray can write whatever he likes. I have other ideas.
 
.
Our satellites have a resolution of 50 CENTIMETRES
Did i ask you or just posted for moral boosting and if your CLAIM id true kindly scan Indian lands first where half of the population lives under poverty line and 70% don't have proper sanitation scan India where thousands of farmers committing suicide and provide high res photos to Modi sarkar may they do something for their own population with these borrowed purchased Russian junk satellites images.
 
.
Yes please and tell us how two jets of IAF shot down even one pilot arrested and enjoyed our hospitality.

What matters is what happened NEXT

1 We carried out 1500 sorties of all types -- CAP ; Bomber ; Reconaissance and Helicopter
RIGHT over your soldiers' heads with PAF watching quitely

2 Dropped some 2000 Tons of Bombs ; LOCKED on to your F 16 and made them turn back

3 Killed hundreds of your soldiers

4 Took back our territory

5 And finally forced Pakistan to RUSH to USA to get a face saving deal
 
. .
cobras.jpg

Cobras draw first blood as an Indian Canberra on a reconnaissance mission is shot down.

The Indians were cooking up something (They had completed the arrangements for a series of underground nuclear tests at Pokhran) and for that they were keen to know how Pakistan would react. On the other hand they also wanted to know about the operational status of the F-16 operations in Pakistan.

It was not a surprise when in May 1997, PAF radars picked up a high altitude track near the border. Two F-16s were immediately scrambled and vectored on to the possible path of the track which was now identified as an Indian MiG-25R flying at 70,000 ft. Initial vectors were passed to the F-16s as they prepared to initiate their zoom climb. The track was declared hostile as soon as it crossed the border into Pakistan. The APG-66 radar of the lead F-16 painted the track at a range of 92 km which continued to move inside Pakistan Air Space. The F-16s immediately initiated their zoom climb and climbed rapidly up to 50,000 ft. The mutual distance was reduced to less than 50 km and the F-16s were still climbing when they were told to disengage as the Foxbat had banked sharply, back into Indian Airspace. May it be haste (according to us) or an intension to rub our noses (according to the Indians), the Foxbat broke the sound barrier before exiting, making this engagement public.

History might have repeated itself had the Foxbat pressed on with the intrusion (In the past, an IAF Canberra continued to carry out its probing mission with two F-86 Sabres attempting an interception and were successful when the Canberra lost its height during a turn). The Indian pilot was well aware that if the F-16s were positioned 8 km below his aircraft, he would be in the firing range of the AIM-9L Sidewinder. Under these circumstances, any evasive maneuvering can make him loose his height and bring him into the clutches of the predators, lurking below him. It was this reason that he wisely disengaged rather than toy around with the F-16s.

The Indian MiG-25 Foxbat carried out various reccee missions near and over the Indo-Pak border in the past, but it never ventured deep into our airspace. The major reason was the fear of being shot down by the Pakistani Air Defenses. In the media it was claimed that nothing in the PAF is capable of reaching the cruising altitude of the MiG-25. To some extent this was true, but correct placement by the radar controller can always put it in danger of being shot down by Sidewinders. Similarly, PAF had the high altitude SAMs placed at VP/VAs to engage the Foxbat. It was for the F-16 and its reliable avionics and weapons' suite due to which it increased the probability of a Foxbat kill, and the Foxbat could never be utilized as intended by the Indians (Unopposed roaming deep inside Pakistan Airspace). USAF Vipers in DACT had outmaneuvered both the MiG-23 and MiG-25 in head-to-head tests, reaching speeds of up to Mach 2 at 60,000 ft ('Making of the Viper' Page 47), the PAF Vipers were fit enough to reach 60,000 ft. and take a shot at the Foxbat.
P
 
. .
Did i ask you or just posted for moral boosting and if your CLAIM id true kindly scan Indian lands first where half of the population lives under poverty line and 70% don't have proper sanitation scan India where thousands of farmers committing suicide and provide high res photos to Modi sarkar may they do something for their own population with these borrowed purchased Russian junk satellites images.

I can understand your Frustration

Relax ; there is nothing you can do about India's overwhelming superiority over Pakistan
 
. .

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom