Former ISI Khalid Khwaja found dead in Waziristan
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Exactly, so let's let Allah decide and stop writing "Shaheed" next to every name... if I am no one to decide, neither are you or anyone else.
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‘Asian Tigers’ kill Khalid Khwaja on expiry of deadline
PESHAWAR: The mysterious and until now unknown militant organisation, the Asian Tigers, executed former Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) official Khalid Khwaja near Mir Ali town in North Waziristan on Friday after holding him hostage for more than a month.
“We decided to kill Khalid Khwaja as the deadline we had given for our demands expired on Friday. The ISI and the government did not take our demands seriously,” said a spokesman for the Asian Tigers in an e-mail sent to this scribe soon after the killing of the elderly Khwaja.
Squadron Leader (retd) Khalid Khwaja, Colonel (retd) Sultan Amir Tarar, commonly known as Col Imam, and documentary maker Asad Qureshi, had gone to North Waziristan on March 26 to make a documentary about the Taliban. They suddenly disappeared and nothing was heard of them until the Asian Tigers claimed responsibility of their kidnapping.
The Asian Tigers, which is believed to be run by a group of Punjabi Taliban and Mehsud militants, had accused Khwaja of working for the ISI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the US.
Tribal sources in Mir Ali, the second largest town of North Waziristan after its regional headquarters Miramshah, said villagers were offering the Friday prayers when firing was heard in Karamkot village, five kilometres west of the main Mir Ali-Miramshah Road.
Villagers said they came out of the mosque and saw the bullet-riddled body of an elderly person lying on a small road of Karamkot village. “We did not know about this old man but he was looking graceful. Someone had just shot him dead. He was shot in the head and chest and was still bleeding when we reached there,” said Muhammad Israr, a shopkeeper in Mir Ali Bazaar. He said he was among the few people who had reached there first and saw the body.
Some villagers said they saw armed people reaching there in a car and firing at the bearded man with AK-47assault rifles.
His assailants had placed a computer-generated letter on his body, alleging he was killed for his association with the ISI and CIA and his negative role in the Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa military operation in Islamabad.
Terrified tribesmen did not want to take any risk by shifting the body to a proper place. By evening, the once powerful and now toothless political administration sent a Jirga of elders and some low-level government officials to collect the body of the former ISI officer.
The Jirga, which was holding white flags, later took possession of the body and shifted it to the military camp in Mir Ali.
Muhammad Omar, a spokesman for Taliban Media Centre that is believed to be operated by the Punjabi Taliban, called this scribe saying the other two men, Colonel Imam and Asad Qureshi, might meet the same fate if the government did not consider the demands of the Asian Tigers seriously.
He claimed all major militant organisations operating in the region had a unanimous opinion about punishing Khwaja. “Everybody wanted him to be executed as he had confessed of all charges against him,” explained Omar who spoke in Urdu.
He claimed that Khwaja and Maulana Shah Abdul Aziz, the former MMA MNA from Karak, during their previous visit to North Waziristan had brought a list of 14 senior Taliban commanders, majority of them Punjabis associated with the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, and told the TTP leaders, Hakimullah Mehsud and Waliur Rahman that they were getting financial assistance from the Indian intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW).
Omar even mentioned names of militant commanders identified as Indian agents by Khwaja and said among them were Qari Zafar, Rana Afzal, Ustad Abdul Samad, Qari Ehsan, Qari Basit, Ustad Aslam, Yasin, Qari Assadullah, Qari Imran, Qari Hamza, Ustad Khalid, Abu Huzaifa, Matiur Rahman and Qari Hussain Ahmad Mehsud. The last-named is considered to be the master trainer of suicide bombers.
Omar narrated a long list of allegations against Khwaja. He said one of the main causes of his death was his support to the Afghan Taliban and strong opposition to the Pakistani Taliban. “He would call us terrorists and refer to the Afghan Taliban as Mujahideen,” Omar recalled.
In the recent videos released by the Asian Tigers, Colonel Imam had claimed that he had come to North Waziristan on the advice of former Army chief General (retd) Mirza Aslam Beg while Khwaja said he had gone there on the advice of former ISI chief Lieutenant General (retd) Hameed Gul, General (retd) Aslam Beg and Colonel Sajjad of the ISI.
Meanwhile, senior Afghan Taliban commanders, who were negotiating with the Asian Tigers through two senior Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) leaders from Orakzai Agency, said the group comprised 30-40 people, Punjabi and Mehsud, all expelled from their respective groups — the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the TTP.
They said the two TTP leaders had held a meeting with members of Asian Tigers about their demands. The group, they said, told the TTP leaders that they would inform them about the demands within two days. The Taliban commanders said the group was supposed to convey them the demands on Saturday but they killed Khalid Khwaja without any reason.
The Taliban felt someone very powerful was behind the group as despite having limited number of fighters, it was freely moving in the region. “The group is run by Usman Punjabi and Sabir Mehsud — both were expelled from their respective organisations,” the Taliban commander said, wishing not to be named.
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R.I.P Khwaja.
PESHAWAR: The mysterious and until now unknown militant organisation, the Asian Tigers, executed former Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) official Khalid Khwaja near Mir Ali town in North Waziristan on Friday after holding him hostage for more than a month.
“We decided to kill Khalid Khwaja as the deadline we had given for our demands expired on Friday. The ISI and the government did not take our demands seriously,” said a spokesman for the Asian Tigers in an e-mail sent to this scribe soon after the killing of the elderly Khwaja.
Squadron Leader (retd) Khalid Khwaja, Colonel (retd) Sultan Amir Tarar, commonly known as Col Imam, and documentary maker Asad Qureshi, had gone to North Waziristan on March 26 to make a documentary about the Taliban. They suddenly disappeared and nothing was heard of them until the Asian Tigers claimed responsibility of their kidnapping.
The Asian Tigers, which is believed to be run by a group of Punjabi Taliban and Mehsud militants, had accused Khwaja of working for the ISI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of the US.
Tribal sources in Mir Ali, the second largest town of North Waziristan after its regional headquarters Miramshah, said villagers were offering the Friday prayers when firing was heard in Karamkot village, five kilometres west of the main Mir Ali-Miramshah Road.
Villagers said they came out of the mosque and saw the bullet-riddled body of an elderly person lying on a small road of Karamkot village. “We did not know about this old man but he was looking graceful. Someone had just shot him dead. He was shot in the head and chest and was still bleeding when we reached there,” said Muhammad Israr, a shopkeeper in Mir Ali Bazaar. He said he was among the few people who had reached there first and saw the body.
Some villagers said they saw armed people reaching there in a car and firing at the bearded man with AK-47assault rifles.
His assailants had placed a computer-generated letter on his body, alleging he was killed for his association with the ISI and CIA and his negative role in the Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa military operation in Islamabad.
Terrified tribesmen did not want to take any risk by shifting the body to a proper place. By evening, the once powerful and now toothless political administration sent a Jirga of elders and some low-level government officials to collect the body of the former ISI officer.
The Jirga, which was holding white flags, later took possession of the body and shifted it to the military camp in Mir Ali.
Muhammad Omar, a spokesman for Taliban Media Centre that is believed to be operated by the Punjabi Taliban, called this scribe saying the other two men, Colonel Imam and Asad Qureshi, might meet the same fate if the government did not consider the demands of the Asian Tigers seriously.
He claimed all major militant organisations operating in the region had a unanimous opinion about punishing Khwaja. “Everybody wanted him to be executed as he had confessed of all charges against him,” explained Omar who spoke in Urdu.
He claimed that Khwaja and Maulana Shah Abdul Aziz, the former MMA MNA from Karak, during their previous visit to North Waziristan had brought a list of 14 senior Taliban commanders, majority of them Punjabis associated with the banned Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, and told the TTP leaders, Hakimullah Mehsud and Waliur Rahman that they were getting financial assistance from the Indian intelligence agency, Research and Analysis Wing (RAW).
Omar even mentioned names of militant commanders identified as Indian agents by Khwaja and said among them were Qari Zafar, Rana Afzal, Ustad Abdul Samad, Qari Ehsan, Qari Basit, Ustad Aslam, Yasin, Qari Assadullah, Qari Imran, Qari Hamza, Ustad Khalid, Abu Huzaifa, Matiur Rahman and Qari Hussain Ahmad Mehsud. The last-named is considered to be the master trainer of suicide bombers.
Omar narrated a long list of allegations against Khwaja. He said one of the main causes of his death was his support to the Afghan Taliban and strong opposition to the Pakistani Taliban. “He would call us terrorists and refer to the Afghan Taliban as Mujahideen,” Omar recalled.
In the recent videos released by the Asian Tigers, Colonel Imam had claimed that he had come to North Waziristan on the advice of former Army chief General (retd) Mirza Aslam Beg while Khwaja said he had gone there on the advice of former ISI chief Lieutenant General (retd) Hameed Gul, General (retd) Aslam Beg and Colonel Sajjad of the ISI.
Meanwhile, senior Afghan Taliban commanders, who were negotiating with the Asian Tigers through two senior Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) leaders from Orakzai Agency, said the group comprised 30-40 people, Punjabi and Mehsud, all expelled from their respective groups — the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and the TTP.
They said the two TTP leaders had held a meeting with members of Asian Tigers about their demands. The group, they said, told the TTP leaders that they would inform them about the demands within two days. The Taliban commanders said the group was supposed to convey them the demands on Saturday but they killed Khalid Khwaja without any reason.
The Taliban felt someone very powerful was behind the group as despite having limited number of fighters, it was freely moving in the region. “The group is run by Usman Punjabi and Sabir Mehsud — both were expelled from their respective organisations,” the Taliban commander said, wishing not to be named.
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R.I.P Khwaja.
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Shaheed as he is Islam and in Iasmic world such men are called shaheed get that.
I don't want to waste my time on you explaining. For that i will refer you to Zaki.
TechLahore...you failed here again don't make mess out of this thread also and remain calm I'm not here to fight online.
I don't want to waste my time on you explaining. For that i will refer you to Zaki.
TechLahore...you failed here again don't make mess out of this thread also and remain calm I'm not here to fight online.
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Don't be immature. I wasn't taking a test that I would have passed or failed.
What do you mean by "such men"? Clearly, not every muslim who dies or is killed is a shaheed. You are basically suggesting that somehow this person died in the way of Allah. That is how one attains shahadat. I was trying to point out that you don't know this for a fact... he was found dead in a place to which he had gone of his own volition. Further, his background suggests that he sympathized with people who are indulging in violence, and some would even say, are murderers. So it is not clear to everyone that this man was working for the greater glory of God Almighty.
I wasn't the one who initiated the character judgement. That was you. If you want to publicly praise questionable or controversial people and then expect that those with a counter viewpoint won't challenge you, then you are living in some alternate reality. We all have opinions and if you are fond of expressing your own, you should develop the patience to listen to others also.
If you didn't want to be challenged on such issues in future, then I suggest you just let the news be news and get on with it. Don't throw grandiose titles around for controversial people if you can't stomach dissent.
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Whatever that means... you could at least be coherent... is that too much to ask?
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exactly, There should be NO sympathy for the beasts & their sympathizers
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I dont know who are we to judge some one like that.. The way ppl are responding here i dont see any difference between a barbaric taliban and common ppl.
The only difference i see is that we are on opposite sides but are same with no value of Human Life.
He died a martyr or terrorist.. Let Allah Judge.. for he and only he knows the truth.
So stop pretending to be a God and know every thing.
Shame on us as Humans Beings
As Allah says in Quran said murder of a single life is a murder of the whole humanity.
NO Muslim can argue with that but i know still some so called godly like creatures will love to argue.
Peace
The only difference i see is that we are on opposite sides but are same with no value of Human Life.
He died a martyr or terrorist.. Let Allah Judge.. for he and only he knows the truth.
So stop pretending to be a God and know every thing.
Shame on us as Humans Beings
As Allah says in Quran said murder of a single life is a murder of the whole humanity.
NO Muslim can argue with that but i know still some so called godly like creatures will love to argue.
Peace
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Mullah Brader was negotiating with Hamid Karzai without consent of Mullah Umer. Also Karzai went public against arrest of Mullah Brader and accused Pakistan of derailing his negotiations. "Asian Tigers" also demanded release of Mullah Brader.
Fill the dots to know who was behind murder of Khaild Khawaja.
Fill the dots to know who was behind murder of Khaild Khawaja.
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any one can shed some light on who is this asian tigers ?
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Khalid Khawaja - R.I.P
Imran Khan - Want me to drop you in N. Wazirirstan Mr. TTP sympathizer?
TTP is in shambles as it has started killing its own due to severe lack of internal trust. Unfortunately, Col. Imam & the other guy would have fate no different. These folks have literally become blinded by their own illusions of the TTP being a savior organization.
Asian Tigers may be some detached loner unit trying to seek its 15 minutes of fame. Such units, after death of BM and HM are expected to pop their tiny heads out every now and then. However I would doubt that the leader of Asian Tiger would identify himself for the fear of having a hellfire off a predator driven up his collective BUTT!
Imran Khan - Want me to drop you in N. Wazirirstan Mr. TTP sympathizer?
TTP is in shambles as it has started killing its own due to severe lack of internal trust. Unfortunately, Col. Imam & the other guy would have fate no different. These folks have literally become blinded by their own illusions of the TTP being a savior organization.
Asian Tigers may be some detached loner unit trying to seek its 15 minutes of fame. Such units, after death of BM and HM are expected to pop their tiny heads out every now and then. However I would doubt that the leader of Asian Tiger would identify himself for the fear of having a hellfire off a predator driven up his collective BUTT!
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