former holocaust survivor and prisoner at Auschwitz has admitted he made the story up.

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Hey guess what there were Black Nazis too seems like there was no policy in place against people who wanted to serve the government

 

[araz]

Holocaust was a lie...it never happened.

Hold on! Dislike for the ZIONISTS is one thing ( notice I dont say Jews as the two are not necessarily synonymous) but denial of historical facts is a fallacy of the highest order. I dont think anyone would wish for any nation or religion to face hardships like the jews faced in the concentration camps. Irrespective of ones disagreement over numbers it was a travesty and should be unequivocally condemned. By not doing so you are condemning other nations to suffer the same fate as the Jews did.
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6 Million people will write 6 million books and 6 Millions news stories will air on 6 Million TV channels . 6 Million students will qoute these 6 million authors , and then 6 million more will read these books with wrong qoutes.UN will write resolutions about it 6 million times. And then 6 Million movies will be made in Hollywood . 6 Million radio shows will talk about the issue over and over again.

Then age 91 one guy will come forth and say ....gotcha , I was not there

Mean while the 2/3 of world population that died due to Virus and then ww1 and ww2 , will never be known

I dont think it serves any purpose to stir up a debate on this topic. The point is to ensure that a travesty of this order does not unfirl again. We do not have any justification to cry over what happened in Iraq Afghanistan and Syria if we are denying a fact generally accepted asctruth by the perpetrators themselves or are you telling us that the Germa. GOVERNMENT was complicit in this alleged ploy. This is a very devious route to go down. The saner approach is to take up issues in present times.
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[war&peace]

Hold on! Dislike for the ZIONISTS is one thing ( notice I dont say Jews as the two are not necessarily synonymous) but denial of historical facts is a fallacy of the highest order. I dont think anyone would wish for any nation or religion to face hardships like the jews faced in the concentration camps. Irrespective of ones disagreement over numbers it was a travesty and should be unequivocally condemned. By not doing so you are condemning other nations to suffer the same fate as the Jews did.
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Bro, I used to believe in the official account for good part of my life. I do differentiate between zionists and non-zionist jews and also within Israel, there are different people..I have jews as my colleagues/business partners. Furthermore I met a middle aged professor from Israel in Göttingen during a conference and we surprisingly had a very detailed discussion in a very cordial environment. And of course I do not like the racist and facist people whether they are jews, nazies, Arabs etc.
Of course, I don't wish such an atrocity to happen to any group of people whether religious or non-religious.
WnP

 

[Thorough Pro]

It takes about 1 hour per 45kg (100 pounds) of body weight to cremate a human body in modern cremation furnaces burning at 1200 degree Celsius.

go to 17:10 to watch the specifics

I asked one of the workers how long the latest oven takes, my exact words were '......about 20 minutes?'. The worker laughed and said in that time you couldn't burn the coffin. He said it takes about 80 minutes to burn a person. And this is with 20th century technology.

Holocaust happened about 70 years ago, 9/11 happened only 15 years ago and probably was the most closely watch and documented incident but still there are/were people who used that incident for personal fake fame and possibly financial benefit

 

[jamal18]

You are the world's dumbest person to make that statement about Pakistanis in Pakistan while you live off the welfare of a Christian western country. Even dumber than claiming the holocaust was a hoax.

No. I work for a living and pay taxes in a western, Christian society. Not a Jewish one.
Instead of hurling abuse like a total moron, answer the points I have raised.

If it is not a hoax, why is it a crime to analyze and question it?

 

[yolo2016]

No. I work for a living and pay taxes in a western, Christian society. Not a Jewish one.
Instead of hurling abuse like a total moron, answer the points I have raised.

If it is not a hoax, why is it a crime to analyze and question it?

You work from a place of bigotry driven by your religious beliefs(ISIS lite) and let's not kid anyone. You can question whatever, being stupid is also a right given to all in judeo christian countries. The flat earthers have the right to free speech, ironically same rights we won't find if your countries.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

See the issue is very simple

The people who created this folklore , really an ORCHETRATED reality. Really wanted the event of World war 2 to be remembered for an EPIC fight between GOOD vs DEVIL

See this is the "Director's cut" that was planned from start

The situation was here we are Post World War 1 , Germans are working , limited jobs and the jobs that do make money Taxes are collected and paid to France / Britian. For world war 1 damages. So really the issue is about fairness being able to live a reasonable healthy life style

a) Work
b) Home
c) Family

These were the three fundamentals that the German citizens wanted post World war 1 , so they came together in the Brilliant leadership of Mr Honorable HItler. Who kick started the great campaign to create jobs , build a modest army and protect German Citizen. Germany refused to pay a Dime to France / British


Now it is interesting that Average US citizen did not wanted to get involved in Europe's war and none sense they could care less they had oil, awesome land , forest (All obviously stolen from American Native Indians 100-300 years in process) however that is not part of discussion. So the challenge for the "GROUP" was how to influence the mind of average , American farmer , farm boy or worker in city ? How to get that guy to kill himself by free will or force him to kill another human being

So that is where the GROUP came into play

Super Rich , folks who owned News paper business, who owned other line of business, had stakes in Media , oil industry some were even folks who had migrated from Europe to America a while back and migrated their wealth to USA. They figured it is a nice business proposition they could make a deal with British

DEAL :
If British Agree to allow a small modest colony of Jews on Arab land , we will spread the news of Germany as being DEVILS, BABY EATERS , and we will smudge the character of Germans so much by power of the media
that an average American will pick up arms to go to a war which is not his own

Always use BIG FONTS for big effects

ALL EUROPE IN ARM ??? REALLY ALL ??? Germany only acted on few regions close to it little bit of poland and yes they too over france

Phase one : Campaign in News paper daily articles on Negative aspect of Germany
Phase two : Focus on Negative news all the time , ignoring the positive stuff about German struggle, radio / motion pic
Phase three: Creating strange stories mostly lies , spreading rumors
Phase four: Political Leaders , brought up by hefty donations who in principle agree to be Anti German
Phase five : Political leaders start to talk in line with the "propaganda material" spread by GROUP
Phase six : Continues growth of Politicians who brought into the vision / lies

Mean while Germany is not happy by this GROUP who is misrepresenting it so it kicks out the folks associated to the Group's goals

Eventually US enters world war 2



THE GROUP : Now disappears - silent war is done , they don't send their own kids to fight they take their money and they are sitting happily watching from distance / observing


War gets bloodier and bloodier - ruthless killing , no one is spared


End of War :
3-5 Million people have Just being killed , well f , how do we justify this we had not anticipated the destruction would be such a scale that even our public is scared of next steps.


Next Phase:
Well war is over , we need to really show GERMANY & Germans were beyond barbarians (NEW GOAL)


So the Directors , and planners sit down they figure , we need to stand out I mean were were the good guys (are we not? people as asking questions) What can we do ?



So they come up with this GRAND story

Well we .......we went to war for this cause ...... this is good , lets print this out tomorrow


Allegation: Germans were running gas chambers (Truth : ehm ehem , when there was lack of gas / oil in germany)
Allegation : People are looking skinny and hungry (Truth : it was true even in Allied camps)
Allegations : Germany kicked out Jews (Truth : Allied kicked out Japanese into camps same deplorable conditions)
Allegations : Germany is about RACE (Truth : No it was about financial jobs and economy )
Allegations : Germany only likes white ( Truth ; No they deal with Arabs , Japanese , Italians)
Allegations : Chambers had gas , chemical gas (Truth chambers were not sealed gas would have leaked)
Allegations : Germans well they just loved war (Truth , no Hitler had recommended seize fire many times )
Allegations ; Germany kicked out jews becasue of race (truth , no it was done becasue Jewish groups were spreading lies in USA)


So there it was ........seeds of lies sown ........



Then The Group Engaged in Long term STRATEGY , to make the war about a group that was 0.0001% of casualties
How ?


a) Well articles about this so called Holocaust written with no counter check for reasoning and logic
b) 6,000,000 figure mysteriously showed up , however it is impossible by any reasonable logic
c) Movies - Talk shows - Videos - Books (4 STEP STRATEGY)

The ideal is to keep incubating the idea OVER and over again over 1 year , 2 year , 10 year , 25 years

So the people would forget what the war was from German Prespective


In return : The GROUP gets donations collected in USA and redirected in form of AID to Israel

Se beggars , they always use empathy - human nature to help people in need , so this "VISION" is continued in MEDIA and in public so that DONATIONS , aid , and weapons can be donated to israel


1914 Article , same strategy , Make people guilty , and then CASH IN collect donation
Where was this money going ? when there was no Israel ? well obviously to buy more newspaper companies , buy media companies and hire more reporters and directors for radio shows - BUILD a network of MEDIUM, which would be used to CAST a preception on a large GROUP OF AUDIENCE

During 1900 Russia was enemy number one so the articles used to get published with focus on Russia (Anti Russia )

More of same blaming Russia for all events

What people won't admit is deportation was normal event in 1900

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Now lets look about the lies about deportation BOO HOOO WOOOO german deported JEWS

Here is Deporation images of Japanese citizens in Canada

Hers images of concentration camps in USA

No problem with concentration camps and detention if allied forces do it

Nothing like good old fashion Eviction order

Read what the paper state
"Civil control station will assist the people to SELL their property , stocks , live stock , business, auto mobile"
.....then shoved into concentration camps ......

If I may suggest , this to me appears to be a case of illegal deportation

Why don't hollywood makes movie about these people ?

Today the Media claims oh GERMANY was bad becuase it was all about WHITE POWER AND SUPREMECY ... mean while in reality back in Home

I suppose the Milk would get dirty of black man touched the milk cart

So there you go now sit back and ... realize the extent of Manipulation
THE GROUP is involved in

Fast Forward 2016

• Group is busy for last 40-50 years , planting a vision of past , manipulating the past
  
• Changing the present
  
• Books, Movies , Radio talk shows , Seminars , leaflets by door
  
• Left , right , top , bottom

Why ? Simple - Perception leads to sale of idea. "DONATE to ISRAEL / JEW"

At same time , all sort of False lies are stacked against Germany of ww2
Every thing except Alien Abduction why becasue it helps with the idea of victimization

However when you really view things slowly by own research , slowly the image will show up

Germany was right and had a strong case for their self determination to a honorable life, the people believed in the leadership

Reality ,Germany was the greatest story of our time about People coming together to work hard for jobs and trying to build their economy and refusing to pay RANSOM money to freeloaders

These FREELOADERS in modern times have now evolved different names like IMF bank who give tiny amount of money and then get 100-200% interest back over time

Here is Mr Hitler , shaking hands with his countrymen promising Jobs economy and self respect , does he looks like a Mad scientist ? who would do Eugenics ? lol Is he this super scientist ? Who would make Incredible Hulk mutant


All of that is BULL SHIT created by THE GROUP , who owns media who employs Reporters / movie makers and actors and reporters.

THE GROUP has splashed filth on NAZI history by associating it

a) Quest for White race only(FALSE)
b) White Supremacy (FALSE ) , Italians , Japanese, Turkish (ww1) were all mixed race allies
c) Extermination goals (FALSE) mere deportation
d) Satanic mentality (FALSE)
e) Anti Christian (FALSE) Just wanted to focus on economy


Now some local hardliner groups listened to THE GROUP's spread out propaganda and started to associate Nazi government with Supremacy , but that is result of THE GROUP's preaching to these local entities that if you are Supremist you must support NAZI symbols. That is a 100% local CREATION in North America or Europe has nothing to do with Germany or Nazi Government

 

[jamal18]

You work from a place of bigotry driven by your religious beliefs(ISIS lite) and let's not kid anyone. You can question whatever, being stupid is also a right given to all in judeo christian countries. The flat earthers have the right to free speech, ironically same rights we won't find if your countries.

oh, I am 'ISIS lite' for questioning a historical incident? It's called having an open mind.

You have some serious issues. Read my post and answer the points raised, or keep quiet.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

@jamal18 there a reason they made all these laws for the holocaust. To silence free thinking of historical events. Where is the outrage? Where is the protests? Where is the freedom of expression, where is the freedom of speech? You'll be detained if they catch you questioning it. You're allowed to make fun of a religion (which more than a billion people follow) like Charlie hebdo but not allowed to question a suspicious event. Sad world.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Now , if the NAZi anti color people they would have not picked a fight with France/British/Polish instead they would have headed to Africa?

Picking fight with polish ? They are white as it gets

Lot of lovely white folks

Logically you would imagine if you believed in the Propaganda by THE GROUP.

I am scratching my head..... really if they are anti color folks why are they picking fights with some really blonde or blue eyed folks ? this does not adds up


Really if you shed that layers and layers of material THE GROUP has imprinted on your mind using their MEDIA and newspaper.

Why British/ France ? Why not Africa ? and the answer goes back to because it goes back to the AIM for German and that was to NO longer pay RANSOM money for ww1 damages


If he was against colored people would he not be going to Africa ?

Now here is a lovely German town happy faces lots of babies , so no baby eating

Lovely city ... no blood drinking Dracula roaming cities in night

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

And yet if one questions this historical event in some European countries, one can be incarcerated. So much for freedom of expression!

Glad you didn't add us. We totally agree with your argument.

 

[mohsen]

oh, I am 'ISIS lite' for questioning a historical incident? It's called having an open mind.

You have some serious issues. Read my post and answer the points raised, or keep quiet.

what else they could do except labeling their opponent in discussion.
they don't have any logical response for your argument. from the childhood they are brainwashed by a fake story of holocaust, now what they can answer when they see so many opposite evidences? ignoring and accusing is their only response.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Probably that is why you have abundance of them

You work from a place of bigotry driven by your religious beliefs(ISIS lite) and let's not kid anyone. You can question whatever, being stupid is also a right given to all in judeo christian countries. The flat earthers have the right to free speech, ironically same rights we won't find if your countries.

 

[yolo2016]

oh, I am 'ISIS lite' for questioning a historical incident? It's called having an open mind.

You have some serious issues. Read my post and answer the points raised, or keep quiet.

Answer what, your claims about the size of ovens? There is thousands of documented historical facts, eyewitness and real studies on this and you want me to answer a pakistani who like ISIS thinks the holocaust is a hoax, lol and you say I have serious issues. Are you even serious! ...

Probably that is why you have abundance of them

Yes, I agree- we are suffering due to our immigration policies