Formal List of Tax Payers in Pakistan from FBR

[S.Y.A]

You are paying Taxes and others because that money is pooled and then helps government introduce new programs for communities and helps build roads and hospitals or improve schools

i dont see any roads and schools. cpec is loan from china, what has the govt done?

This has no result on why anyone should not pay taxes such problems exist world wide , Taxes are due in order to maintain citizenship privileges

where are the privileges? would you like to point them out? i am certainly not receiving any. why should i trust the corrupt with my money?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

How Taxes work?


Tax Money is collected Goes to Federal Authorities they run the government

Federal Authorities , create a Yearly Budget , in which they explain where the money will go

Some money is used to pay federal workers salaries

• Parliament
• Supreme court workers, Judges
• assembly
• Ministries (Farming , Trade , Defense, Tourism , IT, Human rights , Petroleum & Energy )
• State corporation workers (PIA , Steeles , Railways etc )
• Passport office workers
• Government service workers

Then each province is given share of Money for usage , that money then is released for each province


The province then announce their own Budgets how they will spend their funding

• Provincial politicians
• public schools , teachers
• public hospitals, doctors
• public transportation, railways bus services
• cleaning
• water supply
• Programs for farmers (Subsidies on seeds etc , fertilizers)
• Promotion of Trade fairs to attract new companies to Provinces create Jobs
• Salaries for Police in Province

Development Fund

• Provinces kick start Mega Projects with funding (Power, Petro Chemical , Gas companies)
• New schools
• New Universities
• New Hospitals
• Parks
• Transportation

Defense budget is announced for military

• Air-force
• Navy
• Military

So the money collected from Taxes is going to different group for different tasks


The higher the Tax paying people the stronger all these areas will become
0.8% Tax payer is poor , figure in order to make Pakistan a truely great country Pakistanis will need to start paying Taxes

 

[Mutakalim]

To use it for your selfish desires.

Quoting it and arguing on the basis of it doesn't constitute self desires. I am not protecting my property or any material interests by referencing Quran. As I have said earlier, Quran is the best weapon in hands of Muslims to be used in intellectual discourse. Dont you think that it is the most authentic and credible source in existence?

Even a harami invokes name of Allah when he needs to.

Halalis use Quran as a source, for Halali's it's the best weapon of intellectual argument and discourse. For Halali's it's every word is true and laws given in it are practically implementable. Halalis derive their laws from it. Halalis have mentioned Quran in their constitution. Halali's believes that Islam is a complete way of life and its laws are implementable in every aspect of life, whether social, economical, political or personal.

On the other hand, Harami's defame and mock Islamic laws on every forum and at every instance. They rebelled against Quranic system and adopted secularism. Haramis want to exclude laws of Quran from the constitution of Islamic state.

You use religion like as if it is tissue paper.

We will witness at the day of judgement.

And there is nothing more miserable then a person who uses faith to advance their political agenda.

I am not representing any political party and I dont have any political agenda.

That is cheap and low down.

More low than claims of racial superiority?

Lastly, I think your secularism didnt taught you manners and norms of a debate. Let me teach you. It is a norm of intellectual discourse to address each and every point of criticism. Not to pick up few words and drag the debate to a whole new direction by irrelevant details.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The issue at hand is not religion , the issue is not about any political party the issue is mainly about Pakistan as a country , what we need to do in order to take control of the country in correct manner

• Country needs Taxes from all citizens 95% Paying citizens , not 0.8%

The thought should be "I want to see 95% Pakistani Pay their Taxes so Pakistan can be seen along the developed nations of world"

 

[Asimzranger]

More tax is collected through indirect taxing like sell tax on everything from milk to bread to juice e.g slice juice cost 16rs + 4 rs tax which government get ,like fuel diesel petrol all have tax also withholding tax first give people relief then even poor person will willingly pay tax

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

More tax is collected through indirect taxing like sell tax on everything from milk to bread to juice e.g slice juice cost 16rs + 4 rs tax which government get ,like fuel diesel petrol all have tax also withholding tax first give people relief then even poor person will willingly pay tax

You know sales tax is very common world wide
Everyone around the globe pays Income Tax and they also pay sales Tax

The first thing every Pakistani or majority say is , I have been wronged and Government of Pakistan demanding Taxes from me is the worse human rights violation in world , they should be thankful that I am paying taxes on the fuel

 

[Asimzranger]

You know sales tax is very common world wide
Everyone around the globe pays Income Tax and they also pay sales Tax

That's on total billing with 5% sell tex not on everything

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

World Wide , everything is Taxed (Sales Taxed), not just fuel

Back to discussion ,

Government of Pakistan, can't be 100% focused on development objectives unless the people of Pakistan step up their Tax Paying Game

Paying votes to bring in Imran Khan , PTI was first step but now the goal should be lets give power to this new government by Paying Taxes so that they can really push development goals they have in mind to help create more jobs

 

[AZ1]

Bingo. The best asessement you will ever get on what is the biggest threat to Pakistan. Now go tell the runts who croak about 1NT and pull Quran at every corner like they carry Islam on their miserable shoulders.#

Quran is what every muslim should seek knowledge on every subject of Life from but I am sure it's beyond you to understand. First thing you should be worried of are you in those Paying People: 0.8%? rather than bashing others.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Great point being in FBR , paying list should be an honor for every Pakistani that they formally helped build the nation on year to year basis

 

[crankthatskunk]

You are confusing tax filing with tax paying. many people whose tax is deducted at source dont know how to file their taxes.

Yeah that is the problem, but what is the % of salaried people in Pakistan!! And out of them how many have tax liabilities. Majority are poor people holding lower jobs, there income is not sufficient, therefore they have exemption from paying Income Taxes.
The problem is Pakistan has undocumented economy. That's why those who are not paid employment and are liable to pay the taxes at source, get away with it. There are millions of shops, restaurants in Karachi alone, making millions. Some shops daily sales are in millions of rupees. But they pay almost no taxes.
They just pay a partly amount to the Tax Inspectors and keep the fortunes to themselves. That brings in the corruption, which here also is root of all evils.
Another problem, because of poor record keeping and noway of making people answerable for the sales tax they collect. This is another massive problem. Most of the tax in Pakistan is indirect, which should be collected as sales tax etc. but it is not because there is no proper system.
What IK has to do it to re-organise the FBR. Divide it in different division.
Sales Tax should be organised like VAT is in Europe. With a separate department responsible for its running.
The traders have to register to the department by law. Until exempted because of the thresholds.
The registered businesses are required to submit quarterly Sales Tax returns.
The department with massive powers to investigate the records, arrest people who are responsible for fraud. etc.
I can continue but Pakistani system has to be overhauled completely. There is no way out of it.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Forget about the mentality rich and poor , every one has to file their taxes
It is a yearly task , to declare your income

a) I worked , made this much money
b) I paid this much money thru my employer withholding
c) Any other income (Yes /No)
d) Inheritance or Gift (Yes / No)

Submit

 

[Invincible007]

FBR ko kuch hard decision karnay chaye with help of government. Non filers pe taxes he itnay barha dain keh phr khud he tax dain gay n tax return file karain gay.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The best approach is denial of Services

a) Passport New or Renewal Denial [POSSIBLE]
b) Denial of Right to Purchase new Property[POSSIBLE]
c) Denial of Right to Sell Property[POSSIBLE]
d) Denial of Access for Children to Public Schools[POSSIBLE]
e) Denial to Hospitals run by Government[POSSIBLE]
f) Denial to Qurbani Privileges if state tax is not filed[POSSIBLE]
g) Denial right to own car or renew licence[POSSIBLE]
h) Denial of Utilities (Water, Electricity , Cell phone)[POSSIBLE]
i) Denial right to vote in Elections [DIFFICULT]

Once these measures are in place the people will start filing their taxes regularly and take Government more seriously


Simple Confirmation System Needed:
Step 1 : Go to FBR site
Step 2: Enter Household head's NADRA Card info
Step 3: Verify they filed Taxes
Step 4 : Provide Service only if they Filed Taxes for Last Year
Step 5: If they filed late , and have a Letter with Authorization Number by FBR
Check validity an provide service


If they did not filed taxes and have no NOC from FBR for why they did not filed Taxes last year don't offer them any service

• If you were Jobless last year you can still file 0 Rupee Income but you must file as it is done in USA

**Applicable to Citizens living 80-100% in Pakistan

** Charge $200 Dollar/Person for overseas none residents if they did not file Taxes in Pakistan , because they do not live in Pakistan to give them NOC from international Pakistani Embassy location. As many Pakistani who live overseas file their taxes in foreign country

 

[CrazyZ]

Forget about the mentality rich and poor , every one has to file their taxes
It is a yearly task , to declare your income

a) I worked , made this much money
b) I paid this much money thru my employer withholding
c) Any other income (Yes /No)
d) Inheritance or Gift (Yes / No)

Submit

Problem is the top has most of the money. In the Usa. the top 25% earners pay 90% of the taxes.

Pakistan has alot of wealth inequality. The poor can pay consumption taxes like permits since enforcement wouldn't require too much man power. But the bulk of taxes should be collected from the top. They have a smaller population so are easier to track.