Forgotten Hero of Islam: Alp Arslan

[Dalit]

This stupid wannabe European Romanian flamer goes off into a rant in every single topic. He has been rejected on white supremacist forums where they didn't acknowledge and accept his Romanian roots. He know comes to a Pakistani forum to display his venom for Islam. There is nothing to reason with this ignorant fool. Better to ignore him.

 

[flamer84]

I said we arent angels; no one are angels - Slavery was a common practice; it was the profession of thousands. People of all faith, nations and ethnicities practiced it. I said this before and i'll say it again; I thank god that we never stooped down to your disgusting and barbaric level.

Compare 1.25 million to 60 million Africans. This was 1500s-1800s not 2016; slavery was common and considered norm - but not in the way Europeans practiced it - in a merciless, inhumane and sick way; you (Europeans; not fake Europeans - aka Romanians) racist monsters used the bible to justify slavery and viewed Africans as animals sent by god to do the bidding of Humans. At Least we acknowledged slaves as humans.


The amount of Africans killed in the slave trade is 10 times more than the amount of slaves Muslims ever captured. Around 10 Million Africans were killed in the slave trade. So please tell me; which one was more brutal?
Like I said; a homeless man shouldn't be laughing at a house with a broken door.

Muhammad (SAW) and his companions freed over 39,900 slaves in their lifetime; the only slaves the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) had were those who refused to be freed - that wouldnt even be considered slavery.
Freeing a slave gets rid of all the sins you have committed in your life; as per Islam.




Ooh boo hoo; It is perfectly fine for Europeans to practice slavery - but not the rest of the world. What kind of a shit logic is this? You call us barbaric for being responsible of 1 million European slaves yet you completely forget the 60 million African slaves and 10 million African slaves who died.


Why do you think that era was apart of the Age of Imperialism? Empires grew and fell; The Islamic Caliphate grew because of the actions of nations around it. You really think several Arab tribes could be capable of capturing half the world? They thought so as well; but through miraculous victories they became an invincible force - by that time Imperialism was indoctrinated within the Islamic Caliphate.

Europeans launched Crusades = They lost the Balkans
Byzantines refused to take action against Ghassanids = They lost constantinople
ect...


Oh yes, Africans were treated and loved by their superior European masters; they were treated in the best possible way.
That is why 10 million slaves were killed.

Compared to Barbaric Muzlums

"Once taken as slaves, they had to be dealt with in accordance with the Islamic law which was the law of the Islamic state, especially during the Umayyad and Abbasid eras.[citation needed] According to that law, slaves were allowed to earn their living if they opted for that, otherwise it is the owner’s (master) duty to provide for that. They also could not be forced to earn money for their masters unless with an agreement between the slave and the master. This concept is called مخارجة (mukhārajah) (Lane: "And خَارَجَهُ He made an agreement with him, namely, his slave that he (the latter) should pay him a certain impost at the expiration of every month; the slave being left at liberty to work: in which case the slave is termed عَبْدٌ مُخَارِجٌ") in Islamic law. If slaves agree to that and they would like the money they earn to be counted toward their emancipation, then this has to be written in the form of a contract between the slave and the master. "

The average length a Muslim slave master would hold onto his slave would be 3-4 years until the slave bought his freedom.



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Please stop, you're just embarrassing yourself. Stop going off-topic; we're here to discuss about Alp Arslan not hear your brain farts.

Europeans had to civilise you at gunpoint to stop the slave trade.At least European slave trade was stopped by the Europeans themselves.As for crying,no one is crying I just told you that the attack on North African countries,the Crusades,were only justified defensive wars.You're the only one moaning here because history prooves me right.

The 1.25 million number applies only to European slaves taken by muslims,the muslim slave trade was far bigger and leaving aside the fairy tales of humanism,it was far more barbaric.Women were sold into prostitution in harems while boys were castrated.

Instead of venting out your born of frustration rants on who I am,like your opinion really matters,or someone in here,in Europe gives 2 cents on your fantasies,you'd better hear my words,that are aimed at giving you a better education to understand that projecting this false history throughout the muslim world only serves in creating new indoctrinated generations,who are oblivious to real history and who really think that they were somehow wronged by others instead of their own deeds.

 

[Dalit]

Europeans had to civilise you at gunpoint to stop the slave trade.At least European slave trade was stopped by the Europeans themselves.As for crying,no one is crying I just told you that the attack on North African countries,the Crusades,were only justified defensive wars.You're the only one moaning here because history prooves me right.

The 1.25 million number applies only to European slaves taken by muslims,the muslim slave trade was far bigger and leaving aside the fairy tales of humanism,it was far more barbaric.Women were sold into prostitution in harems while boys were castrated.

Instead of venting out your born of frustration rants on who I am,like your opinion really matters,or someone in here,in Europe gives 2 cents on your fantasies,you'd better hear my words,that are aimed at giving you a better education to understand that projecting this false history throughout the muslim world only serves in creating new indoctrinated generations,who are oblivious to real history and who really think that they were somehow wronged by others instead of their own deeds.

Go and attend some Trump rally, fool. We know European/Western history. It is marred with mass colonialism and looting of wealth. Slavery is just the tip of the iceberg. If it was up to your Christian brothers in the US, slavery would today be their God given right, today.

How the Bible was used to justify slavery, abolitionism

 

[flamer84]

Go and attend some Trump rally, fool. We know European/Western history. It is marred with mass colonialism and looting of wealth. Slavery is just the tip of the iceberg. If it was up to your Christian brothers in the US, slavery would today be their God given right, today.

How the Bible was used to justify slavery, abolitionism

Only 2% of whites in the 19th century South USA owned slaves but why let factual history get in the way of religious myths and unchecked hatred?

I know my efforts of educating persons like you and others,persons obviously lacking the intelectual capacity for coherent logic outside of religious myths are somewhat doomed to fail,but,that's what makes a good person: still trying to help those intelectually disabled,against all odds.