Foreign spy agencies behind ‘enforced disappearances’ not ISI, MI: NAB chief

[Maarkhoor]

One video is the al-durrah affair, which Daniel Leconte, former France 2 correspondent, remarked, "If they had been Israeli bullets, they would be very strange bullets because they would have needed to go around the corner." Don't need to do the second because you don't have credibility now: I'm not the one here who should be ashamed.

Especially since you have nothing supportive to say to the Pakistanis concerned about or suffering from enforced disappearances. You are part of the problem: you are the one fighting to keep Pakistanis down.

you are jusr shameless creatures...

 

[somebozo]

For handing over hardcore terrorist? wanted by US for fighting in Afghanistan?

Many of missing hiding in neighboring countries to avoid terrorism charges and death sentence.

Then why we do not hand over clowns like Hafeez Saeed and the twenty something others?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1367864

Average Joe is not blind, state itself is sheltering terrorist and the liability has come to the point of putting the country in FATF Grey list, which will hurt already ailing economy but what does the military Junta care? They will get the budget they want and their offspring will have all the ayashi in UK and USA.

Pak Army would serve no purpose if conflict with India was not cooked up. The 1971 fiasco shows that India is not to be taken lightly, but luckily for the starving army came Afghan jihad. Ever wonder why domestic politics of Pakistan run under the boot to fight rental wars but not able to succeed at its own war or even internal conflicts and basic tasks of border security. Follow the money and one will understand. Billions of military aid has followed in the name of WOT, and where does this aid go?

 

[Solomon2]

you are jusr shameless creatures...

You're just stuck in a loop. People need to look away and move on if they wish to get unstuck.

 

[Big Tank]

Those patriots who're claiming that the people Sold to the US were terrorists. Kids, step out of your home and visit Karachi. They were mainly poor and drug edicts picked up from Empress Market and Bundur Road from Karachi. Everyone is a witness to it how all of those idiots disappear. In return, Mushi and ISI Chief Nadeem Taj got a nice easy cash fooling the Americans thay they're some Taliban.

Most of these poor guys who weren't even aware of anything got killed during the torture in either Afghanistan or CIA Safe Houses in Karachi.

 

[ejaz007]

Since the discussion is already moved beyond the topic just adding one more news items for comments:

https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/3...isputes-runs-through-meaningful-dialogue-coas

1. Is it COAS domain to address the issue
2. what if a civilian would have given this statement

 

[MBT 3000]

The world is in constant state of competition, the eternal war of interest is waged among all clans and caste of human beings. Sometimes we win in civilized manner, other time its bombs, bullets and blood. To destroy others is competition, to destroy self is suicide. ISI has done a good job as destroying self.



It is outdated due to whom and why? GHQ keep manufacturing political parties and political leaders like ZAB, Tafu Bhai, and Sharifs. Merit is not allowed to take charge of leadership.

still not as opium CIA and terrorist RAW

 

[somebozo]

Those patriots who're claiming that the people Sold to the US were terrorists. Kids, step out of your home and visit Karachi. They were mainly poor and drug edicts picked up from Empress Market and Bundur Road from Karachi. Everyone is a witness to it how all of those idiots disappear. In return, Mushi and ISI Chief Nadeem Taj got a nice easy cash fooling the Americans thay they're some Taliban.

Most of these poor guys who weren't even aware of anything got killed during the torture in either Afghanistan or CIA Safe Houses in Karachi.

So it goes around to Imply that the country can be run according to one man will, there is total collapse of state machinery and there is no check and balance..perfect ingredients for making of failed state!

 

[Solomon2]

Who is anti-state?

Daily Times
APRIL 19, 2018

If the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) chairman were wanting to give Pakistan’s military establishment a clean ‘chit’ on matters of enforced disappearances — it may have backfired somewhat.

Justice (rtd) Javed Iqbal told the National Assembly’s Standing Committee on Human Rights that 70 percent of missing persons had links to militancy. Moreover, he believed it was fear that kept those who had been kidnapped from speaking out. And though he was good enough to point out that the state was also responsible for the families of those who go missing — this was not before dropping the mother of all bombshells.

For the NAB chief went on to detail how foreign intelligence agencies swoop into the country and illegally detain people while pinning the blame on both the ISI and the MI. Which may or may not be another way of hinting that the military establishment has lost control of Pakistan’s borders.

If true, this is grave cause for concern. For it raises subsequent questions as to what else foreign spooks are capable of; particularly on the nuclear front. After all, there have long been whisperings of a CIA plan to secure the national arsenal in the event that the Islamists take over. Though that threat seems to have been neutralised; at least for the time being. The security apparatus is always one step ahead. Which is why it is engaged in mainstreaming militants.

Justice (rtd) Iqbal also pointed the finger at certain insurgent groups present in Balochistan that are known to be involved in abductions. This is a claim echoed by Ahmer Mustikhan, an activist and founder of the American Friends of Balochistan (AFP). Indeed, he goes one step further to contend that three militant groups based in the restive province have been backed by India’s RAW; to the tune of $15 million each in recent years. Among others on New Delhi’s payroll, according to Mustikhan, are the World Baloch Organisation (WBO) and Balochistan House.

Regardless of whether or not the controversial activist’s assertions have any weight to them — it is worth noting that these do fit in with the security apparatus’ own rhetoric of Indian meddling in Balochistan. Such activities were ‘confirmed’ by reformed asset and former Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan who said that the militant group received funding from both Indian and Afghan intelligence.

All of which suggests that the law enforcement apparatus has been unable to eliminate terrorists, end foreign interference and keep Pakistanis safe. Which naturally begs the uncomfortable question: just who is guilty of anti-state activities? *

Published in Daily Times, April 19th 2018

Solomon2 note: the claims of Ehsanullah Ehsan were ridiculed last year in the NYT article, "Pakistan's Triangle of Hate", available here on PDF but banned by the NYT's local Pakistani publisher.