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Foreign envoys urge Pakistan to condemn Russian invasion of Ukraine during emergency UNGA session

As if we are going to become first world country if we have stayed at home. You analysts and your analysis. These same countries were supporting india and israel. It is time for Pakistan to take bold decisions and reap the fruits whether good or bad. It will be a decision of Allah

Dollar will still remain above 100 had Pakistan condemned it and same goes for FATF
We don't want to take bold decisions, but smart and clear decisions. What IK did by visiting Russia was muddy the water even more and require our state apparatus to do even more bootlicking and compromising later.
 
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Optics matter. While you claim no stand has been taken, Imran Khans personal visit to Russia at this time said a whole other story.

When it comes to India, our somewhat reluctant abstentions are expected.
Why i am not surprised at Indians? Because your standards for Pakistan and India are different. For example there is a thread on pdf where an Indian is claiming that there are no repercussions of blasphemy against god in India but willingly ignore the fact that lynching on suspicion of beef consumption has become a favorite past time of his countrymen.

Pakistan hasn't taken a side yet and all your assumptions are based on a visit which happened before the war was declared.
 
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"The General Assembly represents the collective conscience of humanity," UN

No, that is a lie ... they only represent the collective interests of the white people. Kashmir, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc could never invoke this so called "collective conscience of humanity"
As they said, not blue eyes, not blonde hairs, uncivilized.
They don't see Kashmir, Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan people's suffering as humanitarian disaster, they created it.
 
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It already has.

"Regardless of what he says, by going to Moscow, Khan has conveyed a message to Europe and the US that he has decided to side with Russia in the Ukraine conflict," Farooqi said.

"He could have easily rescheduled his trip, but possibly, he wanted to put pressure on Washington," he said, adding that even India, which has historically been close to Russia, has so far abstained from taking sides in the conflict.

"EU diplomatic circles have not taken Khan's Russia trip well," according to Farooqi.

Analists on DW say a lot of BS
We have taken a neutral stance
 
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Its not a lone voice :



According to the Wilson Center’s Asia Program deputy director Michael Kugelman, Khan’s presence could potentially help boost Putin’s image.

“The other risk is that Khan becomes a prop for Putin's propaganda, with Putin using Khan's presence as an example to the world that Russia still has good friends after what happened. Putin may try to goad him into saying something regarding Ukraine. Hopefully Khan doesn't take the bait,” wrote Kugelman in a tweet.


Pakistan PM reaches Moscow amid invasion: ‘What a time I have come, so much excitement’​

Imran Khan faces potential embarrassment over visit as US reacts harshly​

Since we are quoting Twitter experts here are some for you.





And last but not least the Western academics who were on payroll of Indian regime and working overtime to rewrite history have also started speaking truth even though 20 years late.
 
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Our policymakers (if we have any) are complete idiots. There was no reason to visit Russia (and give the world the impression that we are siding with them). It was totally unnecessary, especially when it is Russia that's traditionally been arming India.

The best course was to either leverage a pro-Ukraine stance (for Pakistani interests in Kashmir, Afghanistan, etc), or to just say, "we condemn all cross-border invasions and occupations" without specifying who.

Either way, trying to be cute with the West is by far the most ridiculous decision ever. Most of our net-economic gains come from the West (e.g., trade surpluses, foreign work opportunities, etc). You either standard up and take a firm, unequivocal stance, or you pipe down and avoid attention. Don't do this messy middle stuff.
Bilal, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Every time the Indian army amasses on Pak border, EU and the US have both played a vital role in deescalation, we all remember the conflicting stances that Russia takes at such instances.

So the next time a false flag happens, and we are left to face Indian Cold start doctrine, and we ask the EU and US to deescalate, they would very well remind us of our own past unconcern with Ukraine.

And I’ll reiterate, Pakistan has a lower GDP per capita than Bangladesh, but our leaders have egos of regional powers. This Moscow gambit will play out in the future against us, Putin played Pak, rather than being angry we are gratefully for the visit.
 
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So the next time a false flag happens, and we are left to face Indian Cold start doctrine
At 26th When IAF crossed LOC to bomb Pakistan, US and UK were asking us to back off. I am no lover of Russia but West has willingly ignored how Afghanistan was used to inflict pain on us.
 
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Unfortunately, at the bottom of your heart you already know what the truth is.
It was huge Blunder.

You can explain this is Pakistani media. But West is not a fool.


Khan’s trip to Moscow focused solely on bilateral cooperation, but its timing may give the impression that Pakistan indirectly endorsed Putin’s decree on breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine and even the invasion—launched just hours after Khan touched down in Moscow.

As far as India is concerned :

We do have a Mature Foreign Policy
We have Nuclear Deals with US and we get Nuclear Subs from Russia
We Get Missiles from Israel and Oil from Iran
We get Billions from KSA and at the same time We Invest in Chahbahar
We snatched away UAE, KSA from your Kitty, and they have been made silent over Kashmir
We Trade Billions from China while Sell Brahmos to Phillipnes

Thats our foreign Policy. We are proud of it.

And so on....

Pakistan don't need advice of an Indian on our foreign policy, also we know how low is our enemy.
 
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Our policymakers (if we have any) are complete idiots. There was no reason to visit Russia (and give the world the impression that we are siding with them). It was totally unnecessary, especially when it is Russia that's traditionally been arming India.

The best course was to either leverage a pro-Ukraine stance (for Pakistani interests in Kashmir, Afghanistan, etc), or to just say, "we condemn all cross-border invasions and occupations" without specifying who.

Either way, trying to be cute with the West is by far the most ridiculous decision ever. Most of our net-economic gains come from the West (e.g., trade surpluses, foreign work opportunities, etc). You either standard up and take a firm, unequivocal stance, or you pipe down and avoid attention. Don't do this messy middle stuff.
Sir Jee, tusi kinney asana ho.
Did you want Pakistan go 70 years back?
 
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At 26th When IAF crossed LOC to bomb Pakistan, US and UK were asking us to back off. I am no lover of Russia but West has willingly ignored how Afghanistan was used to inflict pain on us.

Many here don't understand that we also had go ahead from China and our future is more with SCO compared to west as west itself is looking ways to keep pushing Pakistan downward as it's in their strategic interest.

Pakistan shall stay neutral, and shall not worsen its relations with Russia. Period.

SCO must because strong economic partnership platform using means which can not be sanctioned by west or its allies, SCO also need to have military cooperation version too.
 
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Pakistan has been pushed and pulled by the west into oblivion.

What started as an authentic cold war partnership turned into an exercise of the useful idiot and political interference and no value placed on Pakistani interests.

If a poor country thousands of miles away who have nothing to do with this mess are trying to uplift its people out of poverty and they wish to remain neutral, respect the decision.
 
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Yeah, want some Russian gas too😃

I bet its a laughing gas? 😜
Unlike Indian abstentions at the UN, recent Pakistani overtures to Russia are going to have far more severe consequences —further jeopardising your current equation with the “west”. It was a bad move all around.

Its ok what may come from the West, we will survive. Pakistan is an independent country and will take independent decisions according to our own interests. IK visit was planned and we decided not to call it off as its our own choice. In Moscow we have conveyed to the Russians that diplomacy is the way forward and its in no one interests to have a shooting match as we are part of the civilized world. Certainly we don't need advise from the Michael of thinking tank, fascist Modi, Mulung Blinken or Chursi Macron in promoting Moscow as the next tourist destination for the 2022 by the IK. Isn't, is the same US who have put it in the public domain that they still be talking to the Russia about the Iran, how convenient ?
While Indians fascist regime government decided to go under cover in the UNSC and the Goudi media decided to support Ukraine and guess what, got the rebuke from the Russians.
At no time forgetful Biden invited IK to visit Washington, so we have never said NO to the US either hence the US need to improve on their postal service. If it helps Biden chances of re-election am sure our smartly dressed IK can pay him the visit too provided he can meet Trump as well.
As far as these 22 Tariq Fateh Ambassadors are concerned when they will vote against fascist Modi for not implementing the UN resolutions, then may be we will consider reading the UN charter too.
 
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