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For those who are doubting me and even ISPR...we have downed at least 2 jets.

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sir i am a big fan of you ... but on this topic lots of speculations around ... you are already aware of it many people have beat this bush

I think you were provided with a brain when you were born to use it and reach your own conclusions and have an "opinion". Having no opinion or walking the side line is only for the weaker minds with lack of intellect or ability to spend time on doing some research.


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I have already said the Locals who captured Abhinandad were talking about the other pilot who ejected besides him, and it was clear for anyone who can understand the language.
 
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@Khafee @HRK

DG ISPR never retracted from his statements about second pilot but our keyboard warriors start doubting him since because of peace initiatives we hided the transfer of body to red cross (SU-30 second pilot).
should be easy to find if we can find how many funerals were held for IAF pilots.
 
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We did the mistake, we could show the injured pilot photo/name on that day without revealing much. Indian channels would do the rest.

Escalation ladder is, in fact, is not in our control, The Indians heavy movement and repositioning on Rajhistan means a lot. They will again stage another Pulwama type attack (also reported by NYT) and use it as a pretext for a bigger ground assault.

So it is an irrelevant statement "Pakistan does not want escalation" .
 
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How can ISPR deny it!! DG ISPR said it in Kamran Khan's program that they had second body of a dead pilot.
This program is reproduced here on this thread, I provided it 2 weeks ago in response to a request from a member here.
Pakistanis, be it the politicians , be it the military, or even people here always speak from position of the weakness against India. I have failed to understand this behavior.
Even IK's demeanor was little odd when he spoke in the NA, but at least he followed up on his promise that Pakistan would respond.
Indians are becoming embolden day by day. You just have to read their comments on social media. Damn they are arrogant little weasels.

Peace should always given a chance to prevail but conditional to the attitude/behaviour of the enemy.
Once enemy crosses the red line than preaching peace have no meanings. Teach enemy the lesson, which he will remember for generations.
Just to share, one of my friend is resident of a village just few KM from international border, his narrative was that till 1971, Indian does not dare to violations (firings) and we never feared to cultivate our agricultural lands near border. After 1971, it became very difficult for us as enemy got more confident due to our peace preachings.
 
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As much as I would like concrete evidence on the 2nd plane... I also understand that there are probably reasons for not presenting it at the moment.

Members in this forum are getting their panties in bunch because the Armed Forces did not do this or that etc. Let’s leave it to the professionals that are trained for this purpose. This is not a video game.

Anyway, we have way too much time on our hands posting stuff and snipping at each other.
You’re saying that not publicizing Indian losses is defeatist or that those losses were not inflicted to begin with?

Where did I say that!! I was referring to your
Peace should always given a chance to prevail but conditional to the attitude/behaviour of the enemy.
Once enemy crosses the red line than preaching peace have no meanings. Teach enemy the lesson, which he will remember for generations.
Just to share, one of my friend is resident of a village just few KM from international border, his narrative was that till 1971, Indian does not dare to violations (firings) and we never feared to cultivate our agricultural lands near border. After 1971, it became very difficult for us as enemy got more confident due to our peace preachings.

Yeah, that I had been saying, which people here don't understand at all, because of stubbornness or whatever.

1- If anything happens in India, before 5 minutes are passed the blame is squarely placed on Pakistan, without iota of the evidence. The pressure started to apply on Pakistan internationally, in international institutions etc.
Before we know it, Indian narrative is accepted all around the world and straight away Pakistan is accused of harboring terrorism.
We on the other hand remain either static, or mum.

2- In Pakistan thousands of people died, in many incidents we knew that the terrorists came from Afghanistan. We knew who trained, financed and supported them in Afghanistan. We never raise it in international institutions, never built our narrative in the world. We all know India is a terrorist country, it is harboring terrorists and attacking Pakistan, in Karachi, Baluchistan and in KPK.
Why Pakistanis are so damn lazy that despite getting hundreds of hits, we never come in to action.
Even when we had their serving officer in our custody accepting that he was in Pakistan, illegally, on false passport and name, arranging terror incidents in which hundreds of people died. Pakistani still didn't do nothing.
Instead traitor Nawaz facilitated India to take the case to the International court of justice, while Pakistan committed itself to the court by accepting and responding to the Indian's plea to the court.
There was no need, by responding Pakistan has accepted the jurisdiction of the court.
Nawaz despite his open treason still not charged. Instead he is getting reliefs.
Pakistanis are clueless, they are tolerating and accepting things no other nation would accept.
I see participants with the same mentality on this forum. I read the comments and wonder, what!!
 
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@Khafee @HRK

DG ISPR never retracted from his statements about second pilot but our keyboard warriors start doubting him since because of peace initiatives we hided the transfer of body to red cross (SU-30 second pilot).

There is no point mate, these keyboard warriors will believe in any bull.shit this fake media throws at them. They are not going to believe ISPR but will believe is any dic.k and harry street beggar.
 
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pakistan is not in a position economically to afford a full scale war we should built our economy first just like china did or even these days bangladesh is gradually gaining a persistent annual growth, remember success has many father and failure is an orphan.... when soviet union was collapsed it was the second largest military power in the world yet that did't save her to torn apart.... however if enemy intrude our airspace or violate our sovereignty then it deserve the right answer but a controlled and well measured similar to 27th feb...
 
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if we are not doing ISPR/State level propaganda for the 2nd fighter then #fitaymu. time to stop TC mastery and pleasing others in the name of de-escalation. He did retract a while ago that there was no 2nd jet. Either confirm it or deny it. Shitty PR job.
He never said that there was no second jet.
 
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my search finally led me to this video to clear

so the summery is second pilot was a sikh who try to resist infront of local public during which he got injured and later could not survived in hospital, it seems more logical after watching this video....

Why didn't we collect the blood samples from baba ji's shirt and match it with Abhinandan's blood?
 
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