For Pakistan: War drums just got louder at Yemen-Saudi border

[Hack-Hook]

Like Iranians sending troops in Iraq against ISIS, Pakistan can also play a role to stabilize a war torn country.

something is certain , Iran have advisers in Iraq but no Iran don't have armed troop there , doubt me ask any Iraqi , they answer you better than anybody.

 

[ghilzai]

after reading the thread It's mind blowing to see how many Pakistanis want their
fellow country men become cannon fodder for KSA Expansionism and their aggression
against the poorest Arab country.

Have you guys ever asked yourself why KSA itself wont do the dirty work ?
after all they are boasting of creating 4 of the largest empire in history , they
claim they destroyed the ottoman empire. their army 1000 time stronger than
Yemen and so and so and so ......

Atleast be honest in your analysis, only @faujihistorian who is a Pakistani Arab is dancing for Saudis, you seen the comments of other Pakistanis the real Pakistanis and they neither favor Iran or Saudia.

Saudia has to create a bogeyman called Iran to divert attention from its failures.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Without going into further details .. Il give you an example of hypocrisy ?


Bahrain (shia majority ruled by Sunni/wahabi monarchs)...'Iran tries to ignite a fire ? You protect your sunny monarch buddy.


Yemen (in 62 - you supported the zaidi monarch and their supporters) today the same guys are your enemies and irans frnds.


You are basically firing guns from others shoulders .

If you guys are so brave and all why not go to war ? No appetite for that I guess!

How is that hypocrisy? Bahrain is part of the GCC and GCC states have an obligation to defend GCC member state x or y if the legitimate government/regime asks for help which occurred in Bahrain.

Besides Shia's are not a majority in Bahrain anymore. It's split more or less evenly between Sunnis and Shias.

Allainces change. You must know that as an Pakistani vis-á-vis Afghanistan and everything that went on in the 1980s'.

KSA (the regime) has never had a problem with Zaydis nor do they have a problem with them today. 1 million or so of our citizens are Zaydis.
Our problem is with the terror cult the Houthi's. Just like you have a problem with TTP and not Sunni Pakistanis or Pashtuns or who are the majority of that terrorist organization.

I don't see the Arab world meddling in Iran but it happens vice versa. Why does the Iranian regime not declare a war against us Arabs instead of this cowardice we have seen since 1979? They could not even defeat Iraq (1 Arab country out of over 20) that is 4 times smaller and has a 2.5 times smaller population, yet those fools want to conquer the Arab world as their deluded sheep claim here and elsewhere on a weekly basis.




Good to see you back @Falcon29 . Let's take this discussion in June. Busy as hell currently.

 

[IceCold]

But perhaps just like here in FATA, Pakistanis dilly dallied for 10 years to face the obvious, we may remain indecisive in this case too.

There is no indecisiveness here. Our soldiers are not cannon fodders for the spoiled rich Arab brats. In Yemen's case SA was the aggressor. They jumped in without calculating the full extent of chaos it would create and Saudis are simply incapable of handling it. You don't start a fight when you cant finish it. Period

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Stop equaling the House of Saud or the Arab ruling families with the 450 million or so Arabs will you?
Most Saudi Arabians and Arabs do not want outside participation in Yemen or anywhere else in the Arab world. They want their own leaders to deal with internal Arab issues as they are perfectly capable of doing just that but they want the easier way out. Which we Arabs are angry about as this same mentality is causing us damage on other fronts and have been for ages.

The few newspapers that have "cried" about Pakistan's lack of involvement (which all of PDF has cried about for weeks) and those 2-3 authors do not speak for all 450 million Arabs (lol). This should be evident. Besides those newspapers are controlled by regimes and those authors write what they are told.

Don't go all Dr Gogudh (or whatever thT UAE ministers name was).

Yes, KSA, GCC and the Arab world never did anything for Pakistan and we are the root for all problems while Iran is an innocent lamb and Pakistanis are not at fault at all.

And we did nothing for you? We didn't give you a nuclear umbrella .. We didn't send thousands of troops n officers to train and even protect your borders?
We didn't support you unconditionally on your issues (unlike you)... Etx ?

You are so awesome warriors yet csnt fight your own wars?


I don't give a shit abt Iran either.

Supposed to be an independent nation. Your leaders were apparently elected by your people (unlike many Arab regimes) so they should be doing what their people demand. The average Arab has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on in Pakistan.

Don't your citizens fund terrorism in Pakistan ? Hasn't out cabinet pointer that out? Do you not want our troops n were open abt it ?

How is that hypocrisy? Bahrain is part of the GCC and GCC states have an obligation to defend GCC member state x or y if the legitimate government/regime asks for help which occurred in Bahrain.

Besides Shia's are not a majority in Bahrain anymore. It's split more or less evenly between Sunnis and Shias.

Allainces change. You must know that as an Pakistani vis-á-vis Afghanistan and everything that went on in the 1980s'.

KSA (the regime) has never had a problem with Zaydis nor do they have a problem with them today. 1 million or so of our citizens are Zaydis.
Our problem is with the terror cult the Houthi's. Just like you have a problem with TTP and not Sunni Pakistanis or Pashtuns or who are the majority of that terrorist organization.

I don't see the Arab world meddling in Iran but it happens vice versa. Why does the Iranian regime not declare a war against us Arabs instead of this cowardice we have seen since 1979? They could not even defeat Iraq (1 Arab country out of over 20) that is 4 times smaller and has a 2.5 times smaller population, yet those fools want to conquer the Arab world as their deluded sheep claim here and elsewhere on a weekly basis.

Tell your Iranian buddies to get the """" out of the Arab world as they are universally disliked and unwanted before it becomes even worse. Our patience is limited.

Anyway Champions League is calling.

Good to see you back @Falcon29 . Let's take this discussion in June. Busy as hell currently.

Forget everything else .. What about the govt of Yemen ? You are basically illegaly BOMBING Yemen !

 

[Aramagedon]

So many Prophets .. So much Islam .. Yet look where you guys are today? Your citizens spreading "their own brand of Islam" by finding terrorism in other countries .. Same ones for Iran .

You both "muslim" nations should go to war with eachother instead of creating proxies and battlefields in other countries .. Let the Syrians,Bahrainians,Iraqis,Pakistanis and other live in peace and sort out their own shit.

Bro the both countries are not the same at all.
First of all we have helped Bosnians against Serbs while no country in the world did that.

Secondly we have helped Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinians for a very long time and have tolerated sanctions.

Thirdly we have helped various countries against terrorism while Iran have never ever supported any terrorist against any muslim.

On the other hand Suadi helped terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lybia, Yemen. Almost There is no muslim country that suadi has not supported terrorism in that if not tell me which country ??? (exclude Iran) And all of these writen on the wall efforts to support terrorism in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc... is while they have never supported Palestinians, Lebanese and Syrians against the Israelis or Americans. They have made all terrorism in Muslim countries.
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Let's Suadis fume, they are doing terrorism in every muslim country let them fume... Let the real Islam be brought in muslims countries.

 

[FaujHistorian]

There is no indecisiveness here. Our soldiers are not cannon fodders for the

Do Houthies have cannons to begin with?

heck now

you are using the lingo from WW-1 European front without even realizing it.

sadly

 

[RazorMC]

what does it mean though, its a confusing statement. does it mean if houttis attack Saudia if so then they are now doing it. But if it means that Pakistan will only step in if someone tries to disintegrate Sadia then maybe we can wait few more years. May its time for yet another resolution which says we will only help if intruders are 50 miles from holy places.

True, the statement in support of KSA was quite vague. It promised support and intervention but offered no indication of what our "red line" was going to be. For the first time I feel proud of our Parliament for using the international language of diplomacy.

But diplomatic mumbo-jumbo aside, if it comes down to choosing between our ally and neutrality, we have a moral obligation to pick the latter.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Will you sell your .....for money ? .

As much as you will pimp and prostitute your ..........r

Sorry to see how low you got so quickly.

Go edit your post and I'll edit mine.

 

[ghilzai]

All this great Arab history and empires but they can't take care of a few houtis who weren't the aggressors in first place.

 

[FaujHistorian]

All this great Arab history and empires but they can't take care of a few houtis who weren't the aggressors in first place.

Like Afghanistan got forked by few Talib-bastards for so long for so much.

Oh bhai

When governments collapse, few 1000 anarchists can wreck heavoc. And the foreign intervention with specialized skills is necessary.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As much as you will pimp and prostitute your ..........r

Sorry to see how low you got so quickly.

Go edit your post and I'll edit mine.

I'm not the one pimping here ? Am I ? And I'm definitely licking .... Here and using money as an example here.

That's you... Pimping for money.


Come on .. You took that rhetorical question so deeply.

 

[Aramagedon]

All this great Arab history and empires but they can't take care of a few houtis who weren't the aggressors in first place.

99%+ of their bombs and jets are American made.


Arab power

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

F your own family then "rhetorically" speaking.

Beghairat loag!

I'm not from your family .. Yours is definitely in "da business".


I thankfully come from a tribal and military family unlike you.


Your emaan and jaan is $$.


Mine is Pakistan.


Hope you apply a visa for KSA to do their bidding instead o telling us what to do.

 

[ghilzai]

As much as you will pimp and prostitute your ..........r

Sorry to see how low you got so quickly.

Go edit your post and I'll edit mine.

Yar since you are so pro Saudi, why not gather a few of your mullah brigade and I will gather the khiljis and we meet in Yemen, have you got the balls to kill or be killed or are you one of those pathetic people who lacks courage that they would want Pak army to do it for them.

So help me god I will go would you?.

You disrespecting a great a Baluch my brother, now don't make me get ethnic on your asss.