For Pakistan: War drums just got louder at Yemen-Saudi border

[NOC-X-32645]

There is nothing in for us...but saudia always support Pakistan.....heavy fundings fir our nuclear plants was arranged by saudians....in bhutto's period....its a war between some traitors in yemen not with yemen gov...or state

 

[Saif al-Arab]

So I say loudly and clearly to Pakistanis reading here who are based in Pakistan. Please pressure your leaders/rulers and speak out against Pakistani involvement in Yemen or any Arab country for that matter.
If not then our rulers will never learn how to deal with their own problems which they should do and which they are fully capable of it they really wanted. Instead they want to take the easy way out. In a sense they fear what might happen to their thrones if it ends badly.

So far KSA and the Arab coalition has proved that the old days are gone by taking the initiative on their own but we would like to hear about involvement of others unless symbolic.

It's absolutely ridiculous that 450 million Arabs that sit on the largest natural resources on the planet (along with Russia) of all kind, have modern weaponry in abundance, land the size of Russia, political support of almost every world power, the West, most important/powerful Muslim countries (Mullah's being the exception) cannot deal with Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya and Lebanon. I don't care if nobody else has been able to but it's first and foremost our very own responsibility as Arabs. Sadly everyone looks the other way and minds his own business. Only Arabs can solve their problems and military solutions might last on the short run but not on the long run.

You will be doing a disservice to us (read our leaders).

We appreciate Pakistan as a close historical ally but do what is right here.

Understand the differences between rulers and people.

Now some might call me a traitor here but they miss the bigger picture. If we don't show that we are masters of our own backyard others will do it for us (West) and create havoc like in Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere.

 

[Kompromat]

"Call of duty"

Duty to salvage the foolhardy of a young 35 year old Prince who wanted to look tough?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Duty to salvage the foolhardy of a young 35 year old Prince who wanted to look tough?

No Sir

Duty to Pakistan. if you know what I mean.

Our job is to not allow anarchy in the house and in the neighborhood.

It is not for Americans not for princes but for us.

 

[Kompromat]

So I say loudly and clearly to Pakistanis reading here who are based in Pakistan. Please pressure your leaders/rulers and speak out against Pakistani involvement in Yemen or any Arab country for that matter.
If not then our rulers will never learn how to deal with their own problems which they should do and which they are fully capable of it they really wanted. Instead they want to take the easy way out. In a sense they fear what might happen to their thrones if it ends badly.

So far KSA and the Arab coalition has proved that the old days are gone by taking the initiative on their own but we would like to hear about involvement of others unless symbolic.

It's absolutely ridiculous that 450 million Arabs that sit on the largest natural resources on the planet (along with Russia) of all kind, have modern weaponry in abundance, land the size of Russia, political support of almost every world power, the West, most important/powerful Muslim countries (Mullah's being the exception) cannot deal with Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya and Lebanon. I don't care if nobody else has been able to but it's first and foremost our very own responsibility as Arabs. Sadly everyone looks the other way and minds his own business. Only Arabs can solve their problems and military solutions might last on the short run but not on the long run.

You heard our Parliament's decision. Not a single MNA voted for military option. The same parliament would have voted for military option if a credible threat to KSA was detected. We believe this war doesn't threaten the KSA and it holds the capability to deal with it by itself.

No Sir

Duty to Pakistan. if you know what I mean.

Our job is to not allow anarchy in the house and in the neighborhood.

It is not for Americans not for princes but for us.

I would have bought that argument if we enjoyed stability at home.

 

[Aramagedon]

Keep telling fairy tales here, desperate Farsi while omitting the facts and topic at hand.

The heroic and blessed Arab armies ended your entity forever, conquered you militarily, religiously, linguistically, culturally and even to an extend ethnically and ruled you for centuries.

The Abbasid Caliphate (bigger than anything that your people ever established) was ruled by Arabs. That was just a civil war between the Umayyad Caliphate (biggest Muslim empire in history) and the Abbasids.

No, Yemenis, Omanis, Bahrainis, Kuwaitis, Jordanians, Iraqis, Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinains etc. etc. are not Arabs. All Arab countires are majority Arab and the minorities that live in our lands are mostly fellow Semites.

You had nothing great. Everything was more or less a copy of our ancient Semitic empires and kingdoms (the first in history) and this is evident by your pre-Islamic architecture, language (Aramaic), Phoenician Alphabet (you had none before), capital (Babylon) etc. Even your symbols are our ancient Semitic symbols. A rip-off. You are a joke in our eyes in other words. Most Arabs are familiar with those historical facts and make fun of it frequently.

Now you are writing in the Arabic alphabet, your language is almost an Arabic dialect, you became Shia Twelvers forcibly due to the Turkic Safavids and the Arab Muslim Shia's they imported from Lebanon, Iraq, Eastern province of KSA, Bahrain etc.

Now your most visited places and most sacred are the tombs of your conquerors, members of the Ahl al-Bayt and your regime and your supporters try to act more Arab than the Arabs themselves.

Know your place in other words, Farsi and stop meddling in internal Arab affairs. As I said go declare a war against us Arabs openly but you don't dare as this would be your end. So you are just barking and supporting Shia Arabs here and there.

Just stick to Tajikistan and Afghanistan.

In the meantime the Farsis with some balls actually are dying in Syria and Iraq. Long may it continue. The filth most be removed from our lands.

You Mullah lapdogs must understand once and for all that this will end very badly for you. You will not be able to win ever. It would be a painful death for you. You might mention the casualties in Syria and Iraq but the populations there are growing at a quick rate even despite the conflicts.

If you continue there will be a point where enough will be enough and due process will be made just like under the blessed Battle of Al-Qadisiyyah. Your national trauma that is felt everywhere in your society on almost every front here 1400 years after!

If you stop a deal might be reached and then we would not care the slightest about your likes just like we don't care about your stateless cousins.

Enough bullcraps!!!!!
You are a poor ... ... ... eater nation that have no history before 1933 and you are ruling by a British regime up to now.

First of all, Abbasid empire was an "Iranian" empire and Abu Muslim Khorasani who killed 600,000 arabs was its founder. Search "Abu Muslim Khorasani founder of abbasid". After abbasids saffarian empire and buyid empire ... were all Iranian.

Secondly if Ahlulubayt came to Iran it was because of brutality of you arabs against family of prophet (pbuh).

Thirdly most of Iranians (at least more than half) were Shia before Safavid empire because of existence of Ahlulbayt in Iran.

Fourly if you are alive it is becasue of oil money.

Fifthly if you guys were so strong you could defeat Ottomans in 600 yeras but you didn't do a fvcking action, and after that a regime that England has chosen for you is ruling you for 85 years! You are very very very very strong and lucky.

The .... eater drinker who tried to hunt airplanes with sword 60 years ago who eat the most strange foods in the world! who even import Shoes from US!!! who ban cameras, want to conquer world!!!
Bedouin hallucination!

 

[Falcon29]

So I say loudly and clearly to Pakistanis reading here who are based in Pakistan. Please pressure your leaders/rulers and speak out against Pakistani involvement in Yemen or any Arab country for that matter.
If not then our rulers will never learn how to deal with their own problems which they should do and which they are fully capable of it they really wanted. Instead they want to take the easy way out. In a sense they fear what might happen to their thrones if it ends badly.

So far KSA and the Arab coalition has proved that the old days are gone by taking the initiative on their own but we would like to hear about involvement of others unless symbolic.

It's absolutely ridiculous that 450 million Arabs that sit on the largest natural resources on the planet (along with Russia) of all kind, have modern weaponry in abundance, land the size of Russia, political support of almost every world power, the West, most important/powerful Muslim countries (Mullah's being the exception) cannot deal with Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Libya and Lebanon. I don't care if nobody else has been able to but it's first and foremost our very own responsibility as Arabs. Sadly everyone looks the other way and minds his own business. Only Arabs can solve their problems and military solutions might last on the short run but not on the long run.

You will be doing a disservice to us (read our leaders).

We have lots of potential. We should start offering jobs for research/devolpment military programs. Lots of crafty and creative people amongst us. I see that Saudi Arabia is moving this way, so is Qatar sort of. But Jordan, Egypt and the rest aren't. They prefer to remain traditional. In Jordan it's all about making sure royal family is secure. In Egypt, it's about securing traditional military run system/business. In Saudi Arabia before Salman it was also about royal family but with Salman I can clearly tell he wants to transform the nation. And is taking courageous steps that are out of usual norm. Which is good, it's what we need, drastic change that hits us in face but is good in long run.

 

[FaujHistorian]

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It's absolutely ridiculous that 450 million Arabs .

As I said before, it is not about Arab vs Ajam. That's old ways of thinking. Very very very very old. Like in stone age. This struggle is lead by 27 million Saudis, and not 450 million Arabs. HUGE difference.

These days, alliances are made based on expertise and need.

If you open a hospital, would you as an owner hire your carpenter brother just because he is an Arab
or the best possible cardiologist that you can get?

Will that person be Arab or Ajam. heck no.

His only expertise is to do heart surgery. Not sing Arab songs or Ajam songs.

Please understand this.

 

[ghilzai]

I don't think things will get worse at the borders but all depends on what steps Majoosi Iran takes to spread it control on Arabian Peninsula. It's duty of not just Pakistan but of all Muslim nations to prepare a ground force with heavy weapons to dispatch to KSA to counter the Khawarij and Rafidah threatning the safety of sacred places and Saudi Arabiya itself.

Maybe you can throw stones on the houtis hay, ha ha ha.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Enough bullcraps!!!
Firstly Abbasid empire was an "Iranian" empire and Abu Muslim Khorasani who killed 600,000 arabs was its founder. Search "Abu Muslim Khorasani founder of abbasid". After abbasids saffarian empire and buyid empire ... were all Iranian.
Secondly if Ahlulubayt came to Iran it was because of brutality of you arabs against family of prophet (pbuh).

Thirdly most of Iranians (at least more than half) were Shia before Sfavid empire because of excision of Ahlulbayt on Iran.

Fourly if you are alive it is becasue of oil money.

Fifthly if you guys were so strong you could defeat Ottomans but they ruled you for all 600 yeas and after that a regime that England has chosen for you is ruling you for 85 years! You are very very very strong and lucky.

What a lie. The Abbasids were Arabs, the Caliphs were Arabs, the language was Arabic, the elite was Arab, the culture, architecture etc. Everything. You can keep inventing history for all I care. What I wrote is the historical truth.

There are millions upon millions of Arabs that descend from the Ahl-al-Bayt. 1000 times more than in Iran. The biggest concentration is found in Hijaz. I am just telling you that you are worshipping your conquerors. That's a fact whether you like it or not.

Read the part below called "Shia Arab Ulema".

Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In fact I believe that you should leave Islam and return to fire-worshipping because you Farsis will always cause trouble to us Arabs and Muslims! Always conspiring. We do not trust you.

Even our Shia Arab brothers know this and speak openly about it!

God bless Sayyid Muhammad al-Husseini for speaking the truth about the cancer that is the Mullah regime and their supporters. Arab as non-Arab.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan needs to use this golden opportunity

If we have to kill a few houthis to make Pakistan a more influential state in the GCC then so be it


Now is the time to make our terms clear and request concessions and utilise our experience to end this destructive war


Its in our national interest to expand our alliances and influence if we really care about Pakistan then what do we care about houthis?

 

[Kompromat]

I don't think things will get worse at the borders but all depends on what steps Majoosi Iran takes to spread it control on Arabian Peninsula. It's duty of not just Pakistan but of all Muslim nations to prepare a ground force with heavy weapons to dispatch to KSA to counter the Khawarij and Rafidah threatning the safety of sacred places and Saudi Arabiya itself.

There is no threat to Hijaz

 

[FaujHistorian]

You heard our Parliament's decision. Not a single MNA voted for military option. The same parliament would have voted for military option if a credible threat to KSA was detected. We believe this war doesn't threaten the KSA and it holds the capability to deal with it by itself.
.

Our parliament is a joke
That offers fatiha on Hakumullah mehsud the terrorist

So please, let's go easy on the expectations from these simpleton goons. Politicians in parliament do not make decision that are right, they make the one that will make them popular on street.

I would have bought that argument if we enjoyed stability at home.

Stability at home is linked closely with stability in the region.

Please understand this finer point. We do not live in fish bowl.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

You heard our Parliament's decision. Not a single MNA voted for military option. The same parliament would have voted for military option if a credible threat to KSA was detected. We believe this war doesn't threaten the KSA and it holds the capability to deal with it by itself.



I would have bought that argument if we enjoyed stability at home.

Which I wrote that I was very happy about and I hope that this continues. Our leaders must learn it the harsh way otherwise we will never be able to control our own backyard and always be at the mercy of the West and outside meddling. Unfortunately the state is what it is. Not good.

@FaujHistorian

Brother, you misunderstood my point. I was criticizing our Arab leaders for failing to do what is necessary. I find it pathetic considering our resources as hand. This is not about Arab or non-Arab at all.

We must solve Palestine, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, Libya etc. on our own. Those are our conflicts. Our people. Our struggles.

As I wrote we appreciate allies but you would be doing us a disservice I believe. That's just my take on it. Many will probably disagree.

 

[FaujHistorian]

There is no threat to Hijaz

That's what we said about Lahore and Islu when Sufi Naiku started TNSM in 1995.
Then we slept deep sleep
We got our 50,000 people killed
And only woke up after the horrible incidence in APS

it is not about sleeping deep sleep

it is about forecasting future. And yes sometimes we may make a wrong forecast and take strong decisions. But it is better than smoking weed and staying home. Waiting for elderly Amma Bawa to bring food.