Five Freedom Fighters martyred, army para commando injured in two Kashmir gunfights

[Papa Dragon]

Five militants were killed and a para commando of the Indian Army injured on Thursday in two separate gunfights in Kashmir Valley.

Defence Ministry spokesman Colonel Rajesh Kalia said that four militants were killed in a gunfight with government forces in Futlipora village of Pakherpora in central Kashmir's Budgam district.

In another gunfight that erupted in north Kashmir Sagipora village of Sopore area in Baramulla, police said one militant has been killed so far while a para commando of the army was injured.

"The operation against militants in Sagipora village is still on," police said.

In the gunfight at Futlipora village, following specific information about the presence of militants, the forces had surrounded the village in Pakherpora area of Budgam district in the morning.

'As the forces closed in on the hiding militants, the security forces were fired upon triggering the encounter," a police officer said.

Eight youth were injured in clashes near the site of gunfight in Futlipora village of Pakherpora area of central Kashmir’s Budgam district on Thursday.

Reports said that youth took to streets and pelted the forces with stones to disrupt the anti-militant operation.

The forces, they said, responded by firing teargas shells, pellets and live bullets.

A health official at CHC Pakherpora said eight injured were brought to the facility for treatment.

"Five were hit by pellets while three others had gunshot wounds," he said

A teenager was injured when a crowd clashed with the army in Pakherpora Chowk. The mob pelted stones at the army convoy carrying reinforcements to Futlipora village, the police officer said.

Sinar Ahmad, 15, was injured when the army resorted to aerial firing after the attack. Ahmad was shifted to hospital in Srinagar, he added.

Authorities have suspended Internet services in Budgam and Pulwama districts to prevent "spread of rumours", he said

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[jaiind]

 

[Indian Jatt]

War is near fellas.....somebody is losing pretty bad

 

[hussain0216]

War is near fellas.....somebody is losing pretty bad

Kashmir hasent been this anti indian since the 1990s, indian hindutva narrative is perfect for us

 

[Kuru]

Kashmir hasent been this anti indian since the 1990s, indian hindutva narrative is perfect for us

May be you should help resolve the issue to avoid such bloodshed. Why Pakistan is afraid of UN referendum in Kashmir? Won't that solve the problem once and for all ?

Referendum is the only way we can resolve it and finally achieve peace. I hope Pakistan somehow get courage for the Kashmir referendum.

 

[hussain0216]

May be you should help resolve the issue to avoid such bloodshed. Why Pakistan is afraid of UN referendum in Kashmir? Won't that solve the problem once and for all ?

Referendum is the only way we can resolve it and finally achieve peace. I hope Pakistan somehow get courage for the Kashmir referendum.

Absolutely we need a referendum across Kashmir

Give the people a simple choice

Pakistan, India or independence. Winner takes it all


If you want to be more reasonable about it then the heart of Kashmir valley goes yo Pakistan, India takes Jammu region with more hindus etc and we could work out a deal for anything else

 

[Kuru]

Absolutely we need a referendum across Kashmir

Give the people a simple choice

Pakistan, India or independence. Winner takes it all


If you want to be more reasonable about it then the heart of Kashmir valley goes yo Pakistan, India takes Jammu region with more hindus etc and we could work out a deal for anything else

Thank you for your agreement.

There are some pre conditions of the UN resolution for the referendum to take place. It's quite unfortunate that Pakistan isn't fulfilling it.

 

[hussain0216]

Thank you for your agreement.

There are some pre conditions of the UN resolution for the referendum to take place. It's quite unfortunate that Pakistan isn't fulfilling it.

You are not going to get Pakistan to step out of a muslim majority azad Kashmir and GB, nor should it.

It is as per the point of Partition where Muslim majority areas want to be part of a free muslim state with our own rules and governance free of any majority hindu interference into our faith, eating habits etc

The problem has always been with indian occupied Kashmir where people were denied the right snd freedom to be part of a muslim majority state and forced under a indian union with increasing hindu extremism

Either give us all of Kashmir as a muslim majority state or cut a deal where we take the valley and we can discuss the rest

 

[Kuru]

You are not going to get Pakistan to step out of a muslim majority azad Kashmir and GB, nor should it.

It means that you don't agree to UN resolution about Kashmir. Then I'm sorry the referendum can't take place. Either you agree to the UN resolution or you just deny it. There's no middle way.

It is as per the point of Partition where Muslim majority areas want to be part of a free muslim state with our own rules and governance free of any majority hindu interference into our faith, eating habits etc

The problem has always been with indian occupied Kashmir where people were denied the right snd freedom to be part of a muslim majority state and forced under a indian union with increasing hindu extremism

Now that the matter is in the UN so let's just stick to it. Because discussing the "partition plan" will also bring things like "instrument of accession" etc which isn't required right now.

Either give us all of Kashmir as a muslim majority state or cut a deal where we take the valley and we can discuss the rest

Giving up Kashmir is out of question now. (Because so many deaths have already happened, backing off isn't an option. May be Indian government will prefer going to war - even if it's a nuclear one - but giving it up is just not an option for ANY political party of India). Yes, I guess we should cut a deal. The part of Kashmir you hold could be yours, while we'll keep the one we have. How about that one?

If not, then let's just stick to the UN resolution about Kashmir which asks Pakistan to fullfill certain pre-conditions for the referendum to take place. Back to square one.

 

[Tom M]

You are not going to get Pakistan to step out of a muslim majority azad Kashmir and GB, nor should it.

It is as per the point of Partition where Muslim majority areas want to be part of a free muslim state with our own rules and governance free of any majority hindu interference into our faith, eating habits etc

The problem has always been with indian occupied Kashmir where people were denied the right snd freedom to be part of a muslim majority state and forced under a indian union with increasing hindu extremism

Either give us all of Kashmir as a muslim majority state or cut a deal where we take the valley and we can discuss the rest

LOL, does India seek something from Pakistan or is it the other way around ???

If you want something, you will have to make the concession, that's how deals work globally. India doesn't need anything from Pakistan. And this terrorist nuisance, we are used to it now. So we are more than happy with the status quo till eternity.

 

[hussain0216]

It means that you don't agree to UN resolution about Kashmir. Then I'm sorry the referendum can't take place. Either you agree to the UN resolution or you just deny it. There's no middle way.

The referendum must take place because the people want it and they should have the democratic right to choosh their future, you are only occupying them and oppressing them by force

The U.N resolution is now defunct it is 70 years old and the ground reality has completely changed

Giving up Kashmir is out of question now. (Because so many deaths have already happened, backing off isn't an option. May be Indian government will prefer going to war - even if it's a nuclear one - but giving it up is just not an option for ANY political party of India). Yes, I guess we should cut a deal. The part of Kashmir you hold could be yours, while we'll keep the one we have. How about that one?

If not, then let's just stick to the UN resolution about Kashmir which asks Pakistan to fullfill certain pre-conditions for the referendum to take place. Back to square one.

The part of Kashmir Pakistan holds is a Muslim state part of a Muslim country, the whole point of partition was that these Muslim majority areas didn't want to live with Hindus and didn't want to be part of a Hindu majority country

Instead of respecting the rights of the people India forced a Muslim majority state under a Hindu majority Indian union

This is why we have war and conflict in south Asia and why south Asia can't move on


Pakistani part of Kashmir is like any other Muslim part of Pakistan it hates India, Indians

Indian occupied Kashmir has come conflict because its a Muslim majority state stuck in a Union it hates

LOL, does India seek something from Pakistan or is it the other way around ???

If you want something, you will have to make the concession, that's how deals work globally. India doesn't need anything from Pakistan. And this terrorist nuisance, we are used to it now. So we are more than happy with the status quo till eternity.

Pakistan will not make a concession

Continuing conflict will continue indefinitely in south Asia

The only thing we should have with India is enmity, conflict and hatred

 

[Tom M]

The referendum must take place because the people want it and they should have the democratic right to choosh their future, you are only occupying them and oppressing them by force

The part of Kashmir Pakistan holds is a Muslim state part of a Muslim country, the whole point of partition was that these Muslim majority areas didn't want to live with Hindus and didn't want to be part of a Hindu majority country

Instead of respecting the rights of the people India forced a Muslim majority state under a Hindu majority Indian union

The U.N resolution is now defunct it is 70 years old and the ground reality has completely changed

Any resolution passed under Article-VI of UNSC Resolution is nothing more than a tissue paper. It's non implementable. Even the P5 can't do a jack about that but only advise others. LOL

Moreover, the Simla agreement had already superseded UNSC resolution and made it bilateral. That's the reason why the entire world including China time and again reiterates, Kashmir issue is bilateral between us.

Pakistan will not make a concession

Continuing conflict will continue indefinitely in south Asia

The only thing we should have with India is enmity, conflict and hatred

Good, we don't have any issues whatsoever, since it's not India who seek anything from Pakistan. We are more than happy with the status quo till eternity.

 

[Kuru]

The referendum must take place because the people want it and they should have the democratic right to choosh their future, you are only occupying them and oppressing them by force

The U.N resolution is now defunct it is 70 years old and the ground reality has completely changed

No offense but it's really stupid to expect India to conduct a referendum only in Jammu and Kashmir while ignoring the part of Kashmir held by Pakistan. What makes you think that we will do that, really?

If the UN resolution is now defunct then where does the question of referendum arise in the first place?

I tell you again, no power, I repeat, no power can force India to conduct a referendum exclusively in Jammu and Kashmir. For Kashmir, we will not only go to war with Pakistan, but we'll go to war with the whole world even if means mutual destruction of entire humanity. Sad but true.

If you want the referendum, please complete the preconditions of UN resolution about Kashmir and then we'll think about it. Why are you so afraid of the referendum anyway?

The part of Kashmir Pakistan holds is a Muslim state part of a Muslim country, the whole point of partition was that these Muslim majority areas didn't want to live with Hindus and didn't want to be part of a Hindu majority country

Instead of respecting the rights of the people India forced a Muslim majority state under a Hindu majority Indian union

This is why we have war and conflict in south Asia and why south Asia can't move on


Pakistani part of Kashmir is like any other Muslim part of Pakistan it hates India, Indians

Indian occupied Kashmir has come conflict because its a Muslim majority state stuck in a Union it hates

So let's conduct a referendum, shall we? Why Pakistan is so scared of referendum? Let's conduct it and be done with it. Problem solved.

Pakistan will not make a concession

Continuing conflict will continue indefinitely in south Asia

The only thing we should have

Don't think like those far right people. Let's be sensible and try to solve this. India will go on with the current status quo FOREVER and NOTHING can stop doing it. If you intend to solve it then complete the preconditions of UN resolution for the referendum to take place.

Once you do your part, then there will be pressure on India to act and conduct the referendum. Why else do you think no country takes Pakistan seriously whenever it talks about Kashmir? I'll answer it. No country cares about Kashmir because they know the UN resolution about Kashmir referendum. They know that it's actually Pakistan which isn't completing the preconditions for Kashmir referendum. Now if you want to continue to fight then you're most welcome. But I remain hopeful that you would make your decision wisely.

 

[Indian Jatt]

Kashmir hasent been this anti indian since the 1990s, indian hindutva narrative is perfect for us

You should better prepare for war then to believe that India will serve Kashmir on a platter.....you dont know yet what we are made up of, we have an unfinished agenda and soon we will finish that agenda, the rivers will always be with India, you can have whatever goes down the drain.....

 

[bloo]

Kashmir hasent been this anti indian since the 1990s, indian hindutva narrative is perfect for us

You wish.