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Five FC Soldiers Martyred in Terrorist Attack Near Iranian Border

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Before advising others,
First you people need to decide on the status of your deceased soldiers paramilitary or otherwise.

No 'martyr' status to paramilitary personnel: Government tells HC

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Did you even read what you quoted ? Despite of being repeatedly bashed and cautioned by your own Pakistani Posters at PDF you dont refrain from posting utter nonsense or poking your nose uselessly.

What @AgNoStiC MuSliM referred to was a very mature and infact MUST HAVE norm to value the sacrifice of "Soldiers". I merely added that the same should be a norm for "soldiers" across the border.. be it India, Pakistan or anywhere else.

The article you quoted is over an entirely different issue, if u had only read it in the first place. I am not at the liberty to discuss it here going offtopic like you.

This is Indian Army's Page with uses the word "martyr" the way it should be :

https://indianarmy.nic.in/explore-army/war-memorial
 
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RIP.
Loss of any life is just useless.



You would have earned a great respect if you would have written :

Please make sure you use the word "Martyred" when creating threads on the deaths of "ANY Soldier", paramilitary, police etc, especially when it involves terrorist attacks.

Soldiers in India, Pakistan or anywhere for that matter serve their motherland. Change of "lens" doesnt change the fact that they all are "Martyrs" for their respective countries.
The Iranians consider Soleimani a martyr - the US doesn’t.

This is a Pakistani forum, first and foremost, so it will reflect the Pakistani point of view. Additionally, as others have pointed out, the term martyr isn’t necessarily used by all militaries around the world.
 
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If it is from Iran then Pakistan must launch Strong protest to Iran

It is an instant observation that they used Iranian border area. Things will become more clearer soon. Not to forget that sometimes these elements & their handlers purposely uses this or other border area so that the either party may triggered with anger. However, if this was a negligence on Iranian part, I see some serious diplomatic protest etc soon.
 
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The Iranians consider Soleimani a martyr - the US doesn’t.

This is a Pakistani forum, first and foremost, so it will reflect the Pakistani point of view. Additionally, as others have pointed out, the term martyr isn’t necessarily used by all militaries around the world.

Thanx. were you on some vacation ? IIRC, seeing you here after a long time.
 
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No ome is here addressing the elephant in the room. Recent attacks and this jas iran all written over it. Attack on ASWJ and now this, 30 km from border. Iran is giving refuge to indian elements who attack Pakistan.
 
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No ome is here addressing the elephant in the room. Recent attacks and this jas iran all written over it. Attack on ASWJ and now this, 30 km from border. Iran is giving refuge to indian elements who attack Pakistan.

Give it a rest, Baluch separatists are as much a threat to them as it is to us, in fact the Shah helped us fight a similar insurgency in the 70's.
 
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Give it a rest, Baluch separatists are as much a threat to them as it is to us, in fact the Shah helped us fight a similar insurgency in the 70's.

Its been 5 decades since the shah. Iran is no more shah's iran, its ayatoals iran. Who are sectarian biggots and have expansionist and interventionist intentions. Why would baloch freedom fighters attack an ahle sunnat gathering?? Why is it that baloch in Pakistan are fighting but ones in iran are not? Even though living standard in Pakistan is higher than in iran. What was kulbhushan doing in iran for decades? Imagine how many such operatives work in iran. Uzair baloch and many others have admitted iran helped them against Pakistan. The main reason such groups are still active because iran gives them cover and weapons, funded by india.
If this attack was near Afghan border, everyone would be shouting their lungs n abusing Afghans, but since its iran border, all the hypocrites are silent and trying to divert it away from iran. As long as we dnt address the elephant in the room, we will be played like fools. Time to put aside sectarian affilliations and keep Pakistan as top priority. If sectarian affilliations didn't deter us against TTP and others then it should also not deter us against iran backed terrorism.
 
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Its been 5 decades since the shah. Iran is no more shah's iran, its ayatoals iran. Who are sectarian biggots and have expansionist and interventionist intentions. Why would baloch freedom fighters attack an ahle sunnat gathering?? Why is it that baloch in Pakistan are fighting but ones in iran are not? Even though living standard in Pakistan is higher than in iran. What was kulbhushan doing in iran for decades? Imagine how many such operatives work in iran. Uzair baloch and many others have admitted iran helped them against Pakistan. The main reason such groups are still active because iran gives them cover and weapons, funded by india.
If this attack was near Afghan border, everyone would be shouting their lungs n abusing Afghans, but since its iran border, all the hypocrites are silent and trying to divert it away from iran. As long as we dnt address the elephant in the room, we will be played like fools. Time to put aside sectarian affilliations and keep Pakistan as top priority. If sectarian affilliations didn't deter us against TTP and others then it should also not deter us against iran backed terrorism.

Calm down fella, you seem very emotional, if in fact if you had read up on the subject you would know that they have a big problem in Sistan, that has caused tension between us. The same people attacking them in the border region are attacking us.
 
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Its been 5 decades since the shah. Iran is no more shah's iran, its ayatoals iran. Who are sectarian biggots and have expansionist and interventionist intentions. Why would baloch freedom fighters attack an ahle sunnat gathering?? Why is it that baloch in Pakistan are fighting but ones in iran are not? Even though living standard in Pakistan is higher than in iran. What was kulbhushan doing in iran for decades? Imagine how many such operatives work in iran. Uzair baloch and many others have admitted iran helped them against Pakistan. The main reason such groups are still active because iran gives them cover and weapons, funded by india.
If this attack was near Afghan border, everyone would be shouting their lungs n abusing Afghans, but since its iran border, all the hypocrites are silent and trying to divert it away from iran. As long as we dnt address the elephant in the room, we will be played like fools. Time to put aside sectarian affilliations and keep Pakistan as top priority. If sectarian affilliations didn't deter us against TTP and others then it should also not deter us against iran backed terrorism.
And what do you expect Pakistan to do? How many Baloch & TTP terrorist attacks originated from Afghanistan?

We have open source information that conclusively shows BLA/BRA/TTP/JuA camps in Afghanistan. Their leaders get killed in Afghanistan. The NDS was busted openly engaging with TTP leadership. Wikileaks showed Karzai and US official knowledge of Bugti and other terrorists sheltering in Afghanistan.

What did Pakistan do to Afghanistan in all those cases? Did we not continue to insist that we needed to cooperate and live together peacefully?

So let's assume that Iran was behind these two attacks, despite all the evidence that these groups primarily operate out of Afghanistan - what do you expect the Pakistani government to do with Iran?
 
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