First Urdu to Hebrew Qaida launched in Pakistan

[somebozo]

lol the enemy speaks russian, polish but thier real language is yiddish, hebrew is semetic language they learn.

Yiddish developed in Germany during Jewish prosperity in Europe

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I did not request that it become part of matriculation. But rather awareness about it be spread among universities and so on as a course; rather than just being bundled up as the middle east. Especially for those involved in foreign policy decisions .. like pretty much all Kakul grads.

They spend most of their time in conspiracy theories and hating Israel without knowing a thing about them. They see it as a demon rather than understanding what they seem to blame for everything. As mentioned before, if there is a potential adversary, better to understand it and prepare for it rather than just bury heads into the grounds with hate.

They(Pakistani Muslims) simply hate the Israeli state polices and their atrocities towards Palestinians otherwise we all know how much Muslims love Abrahmic prophet which include Isaac, Jacob, Moses, david, Solomon, Jesus etc . We also have surah bani Isreal in Quran tell the stories of Bani ISREAL

Hebrew is ancient language which has no real practical significance in modern world but i personally dont hate any language so brother you along with others are free to join Urdu to Hebrew or English to Hebrew classes. there are plenty of material about Israel available on internet for those who are interested to get some knowledge about this country which was formed at the expense of Palestinian people

Btw some quick information from wikipedia

Hebrew is a language native to Isreal, spoken by over 9 million people worldwide, of which over 5 million speakers in Israel.Historically, it is regarded as the language of the Israelite and their ancestors, although the language was not referred to by the name Hebrew in the Tanakh.The earliest examples of written Paleo-Hebrew date from the 10th century BCE. Hebrew belongs to the West Semitic branch of the Afroasiatic language family.

Hebrew had ceased to be an everyday spoken language somewhere between 200 and 400 CE, declining since the aftermath of theBar Kokhba revolt.Aramaic and to a lesser extent Greek were already in use as international languages, especially among elites and immigrants.[12] It survived into the medieval period as the language of Jewish liturgy, rabbinic literature, intra-Jewish commerce, and poetry. Then, in the 19th century, it was revived as a spoken and literary language, and, according to Ethnologue, had become, as of 1998, the language of 5 million people worldwide.After Israel, the United states has the second largest Hebrew speaking population, with 220,000 fluent speakers, mostly from Israel.

 

[DaraShiko]

@Oscar
'sadly, knowledge is a word that all those who use the Quran, Hadiath and the name of Islam like their personal napkin find completely repulsive"

SInce Zia Al Huq embraced Wahabi ideals, took Saudi Money and indoctrinated 3 generations of Pakistani's to be Hindu, Jew and Christian hating lemmings - knowledge has taken a back seat.

You could say it continues a trend began when Dara Shiko was murdered by his brother Aurangzeb who then killed his Mother, SIster and Father.....

Add to the lack of knowledge - logic and impartiality.

Pakistani's repudiate their Indian Heritage to embrace an Arabic Heritage falsely to gain what exactly?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

What is the significance of this language in Pakistan to begin with? We havnt got anything to do with Israelis or hebrew speakers. So why burden our newer generations with another foreign language? Which wont play any role in their development nor is any leading language spoken in the world.

It doesnt benefit us in anyway whatsoever.

 

[xyxmt]

Some day ago i watced a documentory on the Discovery Chennal than indian special forces recruits were learning the basic URDU.

they can learn but their axent gibes them abay

 

[war&peace]

This is very strange that some Pakistani members are opposing learning of Hebrew while it is not being made an official language or a national language..or mandatory for all...I don't see that ever happening but there is no harm in learning any language especially the language spoken by the enemy...I don't remember the reference but perhaps it is hadeeth "If you learn the language of any community (nation, ethnic group etc), you will be protected against the harm that the community can cause to you" and that's very logical and straight forward thing...Just take an example that you abroad (especially non-English nations) and if you don't understand the language you will be at a constant disadvantage and a you will be facing "harm" at almost every step of your stay there.

But why Pakistanis are opposing it especially the Pakistanis who have never stayed abroad for a long enough (>= 10 yrs) duration to understand other cultures. The reason is the wrong perception that of learning foreign language means accepting the superiority of the foreign culture. This is factually a wrong perception. Languages are learned to understand and communicate with other people and especially if they are your enemies. We need languages experts in many international languages and Hebrew should be one of them so that we can understand them.

lol the enemy speaks russian, polish but thier real language is yiddish, hebrew is semetic language they learn.

According to a 2011 Government Social Survey of Israelis over 20 years of age, 49% report Hebrew as their native language, Arabic 18%, Russian 15%, Yiddish 2%, French 2%, English 2%,[1] 1.6% Spanish, and 10% other languages (including Romanian, German and Amharic, which were not offered as answers by the survey). This study also noted that 90% of Jews and over 60% of Arabs have a good understanding of Hebrew.

 

[Gentelman]

Hebrew is not just spoken in Israeil so stop being so ignorant. Even Hazrat Suleiman used to speak hebrew and various other prophets who were sent to Bani isaraeil. It is a language spoken by over 10 million people out of whom less than 3 million live in israeil. Arabic is spoken in israeil as well so should we discard it as well?

Thori urdu aati hai??
Arabic ka matlab aata samagh? Quran parh lia translation ky saath jo ab tjy Hebrew ki lg rahi kami??

 

[somebozo]

What is the significance of this language in Pakistan to begin with? We havnt got anything to do with Israelis or hebrew speakers. So why burden our newer generations with another foreign language? Which wont play any role in their development nor is any leading language spoken in the world.

It doesnt benefit us in anyway whatsoever.

The Pakistani masehi bradari is distinct in a sense that they follow Jerusalem and Hebrew...they belong to one of the oldest sect of Christianity pre-dating Romanizaton of christian religion.

The Hebrew language training is primarily intended for them..with no native speakers left and proficient ones dying fast..it was an attempt by Maseehi bradari to preserve the language skills and enable its learning by the next generation.

There are also many Jews around the KP side though if you come across them they will likely introduce themselves as Ahmedya...or something..I happened to know one Pakistani female doctor from KP working in Al Jouf who is also proficient in Hebrew..and her ancestors were Jewish..though she is not irrereligious

 

[Solomon2]

lol the enemy speaks russian, polish but thier real language is yiddish, hebrew is semetic language they learn.

Learning any language is not a problem especially the language of the enemy, it is rather encouraged since it lets you understand your enemy better and protect yourself from the its evil.

Know thy enemy...

Why this attitude? You guys should know by now that Israelis have no desire or interest in making an enemy of Pakistan or Pakistanis; rather, Israel is most interested in national security, prosperity, and defeating terrorism.

I'm reminded of an incident in WWII. Churchill records that Stalin once sent a very rude letter to him accusing the British of all sorts of things. Churchill handed it back (to Molotov, I think) - in its envelope - and said he refused to consider Britain and Russia as anything other than partners in the struggle against Nazism and would not "accept" the letter - i.e., he would ignore its contents and the attitude it conveyed. Apparently Stalin was very impressed by Churchill's non-response.

 

[untitled]

What Pakistani will gain by learning hebrew ?

If the Egyptians can learn Hebrew why can't we?

Heard many Israeli hebrew call centres are actually in Egypt

 

[Jaanbaz]

Some day ago i watced a documentory on the Discovery Chennal than indian special forces recruits were learning the basic URDU.

Not really a big dead lol. American special forces that were sent to Afghanistan dressed like Pushtuns and learnt Pushtu for their top secret missions. SSG dressed as tribals while fighting Taliban in Swat and Tribal areas. I guess every Spec Ops would have a particular unit/s designated for such operation.

hey will likely introduce themselves as Ahmedya.

They probably are Ahmadis just pretending to be Jews, I guess its safer to be Jewish in Pakistan?

 

[hussain0216]

You should always learn the language of an enemy

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

If the Egyptians can learn Hebrew why can't we?

Heard many Israeli hebrew call centres are actually in Egypt

You can but i have no time for hebrew and dont find learning hebrew as useful but instead i wish i could speak/learn all major international languages i.e french, spanish, arabic, mandarin, portugese etc

so when you are going to learn it?

 

[untitled]

You can but i have no time for hebrew and dont find learning hebrew as useful but instead i wish i could speak/learn all major international languages i.e french, spanish, arabic, mandarin, portugese etc

so when you are going to learn it?

I know a few words. Being a semitic language it shares a lot of words with Arabic

 

[war&peace]

Why this attitude? You guys should know by now that Israelis have no desire or interest in making an enemy of Pakistan or Pakistanis; rather, Israel is most interested in national security, prosperity, and defeating terrorism.

I'm reminded of an incident in WWII. Churchill records that Stalin once sent a very rude letter to him accusing the British of all sorts of things. Churchill handed it back (to Molotov, I think) - in its envelope - and said he refused to consider Britain and Russia as anything other than partners in the struggle against Nazism and would not "accept" the letter - i.e., he would ignore its contents and the attitude it conveyed. Apparently Stalin was very impressed by Churchill's non-response.

Not all of Israelis are enemies of Pakistan of course but here I rather championed learning of Hebrew. Pakistan and Israel do not have any direct conflict but it is more of solidarity and principles that Pakistan does not recognise it but if Palestinian issue is solved in an amicable way (which seems impossible in the near future due to the arrogance of the current Israeli regime) then Pakistan will have no reason for not recognising Israel as a state.