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First submarines commissioned in Navy

Not bad for a beginning when our massive neighbor has the habit of getting diarrhea whenever we make moves to strengthen our deference against our top potential adversary in clad in saffron. SHW / BAL will not remain for ever. We will then acquire the best and team up with natural friends.

BD have no hostilities with India, why need subs then? But to have capability BD should have gone with better subs even from china Song upgraded one would have been better option. Why not asked India or Russia to sale a kilo class sub?
 
BD have no hostilities with India, why need subs then? But to have capability BD should have gone with better subs even from china Song upgraded one would have been better option. Why not asked India or Russia to sale a kilo class sub?
cmon even pakistans first subs weren't the latest and greatest... but look at them now... you guys got good submarine fleet.... we just started... let us play with it for some time before we can actually operate a better one!
 
cmon even pakistans first subs weren't the latest and greatest... but look at them now... you guys got good submarine fleet.... we just started... let us play with it for some time before we can actually operate a better one!

When it was commissioned and where Pakistan is today?? Pakistan was also first country to have a sub in South Asia, please don't compare Apples with Oranges.

Thing is, if BD wanted a sub force then its too little to late, they should have gone for better western used sub to save cost and have better force capability.
 
When it was commissioned and where Pakistan is today?? Pakistan was also first country to have a sub in South Asia, please don't compare Apples with Oranges.

Thing is, if BD wanted a sub force then its too little to late, they should have gone for better western used sub to save cost and have better force capability.
We are planning to get two more and are evaluating German subs atm.

If tech is your concern then it isn't a comparison between apple and oranges because Pakistan first sub was basically obsolete when it was bought.
 
BD have no hostilities with India, why need subs then? But to have capability BD should have gone with better subs even from china Song upgraded one would have been better option. Why not asked India or Russia to sale a kilo class sub?

The real hostility that BD has is with one single country, India. And one people, Indians. What is happening now is unreal.
 
When it was commissioned and where Pakistan is today?? Pakistan was also first country to have a sub in South Asia, please don't compare Apples with Oranges.

Thing is, if BD wanted a sub force then its too little to late, they should have gone for better western used sub to save cost and have better force capability.

These are primarily going to be used to provide training and experience in sub-surface warfare. There are a lot of things that need to be in place before we are ready for new subs, a new sub base, upgraded yard, hydro data etc.

In the next decade or so, we will buy new subs (prob from China) with improved defence budgets based on a growing economy (we only spend 1.2%-1.5% of our GDP on defence)....a new sub costs $500m plus.
 
We are planning to get two more and are evaluating German subs atm.

If tech is your concern then it isn't a comparison between apple and oranges because Pakistan first sub was basically obsolete when it was bought.

Please google about it, when Ghazi was bought by PN it was unrivaled and came with capability which no one had in South Asia, it was most lethal weapon in seas of South Asia along with ACC of IN.

what is significance of BD's first sub compared to PN's First sub. That is why you are comparing Apples with oranges.

The real hostility that BD has is with one single country, India. And one people, Indians. What is happening now is unreal.

That is a surprise, because till now BD's policies are pro India and India is the creator of BD too.

These are primarily going to be used to provide training and experience in sub-surface warfare. There are a lot of things that need to be in place before we are ready for new subs, a new sub base, upgraded yard, hydro data etc.

In the next decade or so, we will buy new subs (prob from China) with improved defence budgets based on a growing economy (we only spend 1.2%-1.5% of our GDP on defence)....a new sub costs $500m plus.

Why till now BD has not gone to buy submarines? Why so late?
 
Please google about it, when Ghazi was bought by PN it was unrivaled and came with capability which no one had in South Asia, it was most lethal weapon in seas of South Asia along with ACC of IN.

what is significance of BD's first sub compared to PN's First sub. That is why you are comparing Apples with oranges.



That is a surprise, because till now BD's policies are pro India and India is the creator of BD too.



Why till now BD has not gone to buy submarines? Why so late?

India did not create BD; we ourselves did. We also created Pakistan.
 
India did not create BD; we ourselves did. We also created Pakistan.

With out India BD was not possible that is big reality, they created MB and provide full support in creating BD that is reality, if India had not involved BD would have remained EP may be with more autonomy.

Now on topic, what capability these subs came with? Any major upgrade in them? BD can work with IN to improve sub operation capability as they have experience in sub operations and also have one of best MPA too.
 
Please google about it, when Ghazi was bought by PN it was unrivaled and came with capability which no one had in South Asia, it was most lethal weapon in seas of South Asia along with ACC of IN.

what is significance of BD's first sub compared to PN's First sub. That is why you are comparing Apples with oranges.



That is a surprise, because till now BD's policies are pro India and India is the creator of BD too.



Why till now BD has not gone to buy submarines? Why so late?
unrivalled because no one had a sub in the region... compare that to most modern PN got against IN, y'all are lagging behind....
we wanted underwater capability to protect our national interest... we don't want our economy to falter from sea blockade by whichever nation choses to place one in the future...

and is it a sin ti buy the subs so late? your question has no logic.... it if did i would have asked you... why did pakistan attain nnuclear bombs in the 90s why so late... why not right after america had attained em...
 
Why old Chinese subs?? BD have better economy now (as per BD members here) why not good tested western or Russian system like Type-214 or Amur class or used ones like Type-209 or Kilo class?

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:-) These are our 'Teething' subs...after 10 years there'll be either 'Yuan' or 'Chang Bogo' in the BOB waters :-)
 
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:-) These are our 'Teething' subs...after 10 years there'll be either 'Yuan' or 'Chang Bogo' in the BOB waters :-)
chang bogo is a good choice.. it takes german tech... then merges it with US origin sensors and equipments... longer range... better payload etc etc.... one refuel will last us years... cause some 10k km range or so.... with that you can sail to UK i believe....
 

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