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US SEALs had ground support in Abbottabad operation: report
July 08, 2013 - Updated 2145 PKT
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ISLAMABAD: Terming it a collective failure of authorities as a whole, the Abbottabad Commission Report says no Pakistani institution or individual alone was responsible for the operation, which killed former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil.
According to a copy of the report --acquired by Geo News-- the US Navy SEALs were provided with strategic ground support/intelligence for the operation to capture worlds most wanted man.
The report accuses authorities of complacency, collective failure and negligence that allowed Osama bin Laden to live undetected in the country for more than nine years and his subsequent killing by the US troops in a covert operation in Pakistan.
"OBL was able to stay within the limits of Abbottabad Cantonment due to a collective failure of the military authorities, the intelligence authorities, the police and the civilian administration," said the report.
"This failure included negligence and incompetence and at some undetermined level a grave complicity may or may not have involved," it added.
"How the entire neighbourhood, local officials, police and security and intelligence officials all missed the size, the strange shape, the barbed wire, the lack of cars and visitors etc over a period of nearly six years beggars belief," the report said.
"There was also extensive complacency, inefficiency and negligence in the local civil administration, the police and the civil and military intelligence agencies and security authorities of the cantonment area," it added.
Had leads or abnormalities been followed up professionally the report cautioned, it might have led to a different outcome than the US raid that violated Pakistan sovereignty, it said.
The testimonies of Osamas spouses are also included in the report.
According to his wives, bin Laden fled the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan, arriving in Pakistan in the spring or summer of 2002, and staying for more than nine years.
The commission also reported that tracing Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan and subsequently sharing this intelligence with the government was solely Inter Services Intelligence's (ISI) responsibility.
On page 17 of the commission's report also says: Having killed Osama bin Laden (OBL), the Americans reportedly took his body and dumped it in Indian Ocean with the sotry line that it was buried in accordance with the Islamic rituals, however according to some religious authorities, Islam does not permit burial at sea of persons who died on the land.
The report also adds that no pictures of the OBL's body were released, but there since had been an unauthenticated WikiLeaks report that in fact OBL's body was taken to US.
After neutralizing OBL, the US Navy SEALs handcuffed the surviving women and some of the children and collected a treasure trove of information in the shape of hard drives, thumb disks, and written material, the report revealed.
Before flying back to Jalaabad undetected and un-intercepted, US troops also destroyed one of the disabled helicopters. According to an American account, the mission was as easy as "mowing the lawn", the report further said.
The report says the statements of President Asif Ali Zardari, former Prime Minisiter Yousuf Raza Gilani, and Chief of the Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani remain reserved to date as they did not appear before the commission.
The Abbottabad Commission was set up in a bid to get to the bottom of one of the most embarrassing episodes in Pakistani history.
Parliament had demanded an independent investigation into how bin Laden had been able to hide and whether there was any government or military collusion.
The commission interviewed senior civilian and military officials and the three widows of bin Laden before they were deported to Saudi Arabia last year.
Osama bin Laden, the founder and head of the extremist militant group al-Qaeda, was killed in Pakistan on May 2, 2011, by Navy SEALs of the U.S. Naval Special Warfare Development Group (also known as DEVGRU or SEAL Team Six).
The operation, code-named Operation Neptune Spear, was carried out in a Central Intelligence Agency-led operation.
In addition to DEVGRU, participating units included the U.S. Army Special Operations Command's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) and CIA operatives.
The raid on bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, was launched from Afghanistan. After the raid, U.S. forces took bin Laden's body to Afghanistan for identification, then buried it at sea within 24 hours of his death.
Al-Qaeda confirmed the death on May 6 with posts made on militant websites, vowing to avenge the killing.
US SEALs had ground support in Abbottabad operation: report - thenews.com.pk
July 08, 2013 - Updated 2145 PKT
From Web Edition
ISLAMABAD: Terming it a collective failure of authorities as a whole, the Abbottabad Commission Report says no Pakistani institution or individual alone was responsible for the operation, which killed former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil.
According to a copy of the report --acquired by Geo News-- the US Navy SEALs were provided with strategic ground support/intelligence for the operation to capture worlds most wanted man.
The report accuses authorities of complacency, collective failure and negligence that allowed Osama bin Laden to live undetected in the country for more than nine years and his subsequent killing by the US troops in a covert operation in Pakistan.
"OBL was able to stay within the limits of Abbottabad Cantonment due to a collective failure of the military authorities, the intelligence authorities, the police and the civilian administration," said the report.
"This failure included negligence and incompetence and at some undetermined level a grave complicity may or may not have involved," it added.
"How the entire neighbourhood, local officials, police and security and intelligence officials all missed the size, the strange shape, the barbed wire, the lack of cars and visitors etc over a period of nearly six years beggars belief," the report said.
"There was also extensive complacency, inefficiency and negligence in the local civil administration, the police and the civil and military intelligence agencies and security authorities of the cantonment area," it added.
Had leads or abnormalities been followed up professionally the report cautioned, it might have led to a different outcome than the US raid that violated Pakistan sovereignty, it said.
The testimonies of Osamas spouses are also included in the report.
According to his wives, bin Laden fled the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan, arriving in Pakistan in the spring or summer of 2002, and staying for more than nine years.
The commission also reported that tracing Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan and subsequently sharing this intelligence with the government was solely Inter Services Intelligence's (ISI) responsibility.
On page 17 of the commission's report also says: Having killed Osama bin Laden (OBL), the Americans reportedly took his body and dumped it in Indian Ocean with the sotry line that it was buried in accordance with the Islamic rituals, however according to some religious authorities, Islam does not permit burial at sea of persons who died on the land.
The report also adds that no pictures of the OBL's body were released, but there since had been an unauthenticated WikiLeaks report that in fact OBL's body was taken to US.
After neutralizing OBL, the US Navy SEALs handcuffed the surviving women and some of the children and collected a treasure trove of information in the shape of hard drives, thumb disks, and written material, the report revealed.
Before flying back to Jalaabad undetected and un-intercepted, US troops also destroyed one of the disabled helicopters. According to an American account, the mission was as easy as "mowing the lawn", the report further said.
The report says the statements of President Asif Ali Zardari, former Prime Minisiter Yousuf Raza Gilani, and Chief of the Army Staff, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani remain reserved to date as they did not appear before the commission.
The Abbottabad Commission was set up in a bid to get to the bottom of one of the most embarrassing episodes in Pakistani history.
Parliament had demanded an independent investigation into how bin Laden had been able to hide and whether there was any government or military collusion.
The commission interviewed senior civilian and military officials and the three widows of bin Laden before they were deported to Saudi Arabia last year.
Osama bin Laden, the founder and head of the extremist militant group al-Qaeda, was killed in Pakistan on May 2, 2011, by Navy SEALs of the U.S. Naval Special Warfare Development Group (also known as DEVGRU or SEAL Team Six).
The operation, code-named Operation Neptune Spear, was carried out in a Central Intelligence Agency-led operation.
In addition to DEVGRU, participating units included the U.S. Army Special Operations Command's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) and CIA operatives.
The raid on bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, was launched from Afghanistan. After the raid, U.S. forces took bin Laden's body to Afghanistan for identification, then buried it at sea within 24 hours of his death.
Al-Qaeda confirmed the death on May 6 with posts made on militant websites, vowing to avenge the killing.
US SEALs had ground support in Abbottabad operation: report - thenews.com.pk
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OBL fiasco: security apparatus ‘grossly incompetent’ -
More than two years after a raid by US forces on Osama bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad, Arab TV channel Al Jazeera on Monday released a leaked report by the subsequent Pakistani commission formed to probe the matter. The independent commission’s report, which had been formally handed over to the government earlier in the year, had not been released to the public.
It bore a scathing assessment of the Pakistani government and the security structures. Perhaps aware of the implications of its findings, the Commission notes that it had “apprehensions that the Commission’s report would be ignored, or even suppressed”, and urged the government to release it to the public. The government, however, did not do so.
The report was buried by the government and never made public, until Al Jazeera got hold of it and released it online.
Findings of the Report
The Commission’s 336 page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for ‘gross incompetence’, leading to ‘collective failures’ that allowed Bin Laden to escape detection, and the United States to perpetrate ‘an act of war’. The Commission was charged with establishing whether the failures of the government and military were due to incompetence, or complicity.
It was given overarching investigative powers, and, in the course of its inquiry, interviewed more than 201 witnesses – including members of Bin Laden’s own family, the chief of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, and other senior provincial, federal and military officials. It also notes that the government’s intention in conducting the inquiry was likely aimed at ‘regime continuance, when the regime is desperate to distance itself from any responsibility for the national disaster that occurred on its watch’ and was likely to be ‘a reluctant response to an overwhelming public and parliamentary demand’.
The Commission found that there had been a complete collapse of governance and law enforcement - a situation it termed ‘Government Implosion Syndrome’, both in the lack of intelligence on Bin Laden’s nine-year residence in Pakistan, and in the response to the US raid that killed him. It finds that ‘culpable negligence and incompetence at almost all levels of government can more or less be conclusively established’.
On the presence of a CIA network in Pakistan tracking down Bin Laden, without the Pakistani establishment’s knowledge, the Commission finds “this [was] a case of nothing less than a collective and sustained dereliction of duty by the political, military and intelligence leadership of the country”.
It also states that the US violation of Pakistani sovereignty, in carrying out the raid unilaterally, had been allowed to happen due to inaccurate and outdated threat assessments within the country’s defence and strategic policy establishments. “It is official or unofficial defence policy not to attempt to defend the country if threatened, or even attacked by a military superpower like the US?” the Commission asks of several top military officers.
“From a Pakistani strategic doctrine point of view,” the report notes, while issuing findings on how the military had wholly focused its “peacetime deployment” of defence capabilities on the border with India, “the world stood still for almost a decade.” The report states that “the inability to spot the low flying helicopters over Abbottabad cantonment was a major failure.” The report reads that “no apparent attempt to take him alive was made.
Four Pakistani citizens were also killed without any attempt to disarm or detain them. None apparently put up any resistance or fired at the raiders. The US raid was not a capture or kill mission. It was a kill mission.” Finally, through testimony from Bin Laden’s family and intelligence officials, it provides a fascinating, and richly detailed, account of Bin Laden’s time in Pakistan: his movements, his habits and his pattern of life. In concluding its report, the Commission finds that the country’s “political, military intelligence and bureaucratic leadership cannot be absolved of their responsibility for the state of governance, policy planning and policy implementation that eventually rendered this national failure almost inevitable”, and calls on the country’s leadership to formally apologise to the people of Pakistan for “their dereliction of duty”.
2011 Raid US special forces launched a raid deep into Pakistani territory on May 1, 2011 to capture or kill al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. US soldiers flew via helicopter to the Pakistani army garrison town of Abbottabad on US President Barack Obama, where he was hiding according to their intelligence. In the subsequent raid, Bin Laden and four others were killed, whilst several were wounded.
Following the operation, that had been deliberately conducted without the knowledge of the Pakistani government or its military, a commission was set up in Pakistan to examine “how the US was able to execute a hostile military mission, which lasted around three hours, deep inside Pakistan”, and how Pakistan’s “intelligence establishment apparently had no idea that an international fugitive of the renown or notoriety of [Osama bin Laden] was residing in [Abbottabad],” the report says.
Page 197 of the report, which contains part of the testimony of Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, then director of the ISI, was missing from all copies of the report that Al Jazeera obtained from multiple sources, the news channel stated. The report also stated that President Asif Zardari, then prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and Army chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani did not record their statements before the commission.
It is unclear what was contained on that page, but the contextual implication is that, among other things, it contains a list of seven demands made by the United States to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks in 2001. - See more at: OBL fiasco: security apparatus
More than two years after a raid by US forces on Osama bin Laden’s hideout in Abbottabad, Arab TV channel Al Jazeera on Monday released a leaked report by the subsequent Pakistani commission formed to probe the matter. The independent commission’s report, which had been formally handed over to the government earlier in the year, had not been released to the public.
It bore a scathing assessment of the Pakistani government and the security structures. Perhaps aware of the implications of its findings, the Commission notes that it had “apprehensions that the Commission’s report would be ignored, or even suppressed”, and urged the government to release it to the public. The government, however, did not do so.
The report was buried by the government and never made public, until Al Jazeera got hold of it and released it online.
Findings of the Report
The Commission’s 336 page report is scathing, holding both the government and the military responsible for ‘gross incompetence’, leading to ‘collective failures’ that allowed Bin Laden to escape detection, and the United States to perpetrate ‘an act of war’. The Commission was charged with establishing whether the failures of the government and military were due to incompetence, or complicity.
It was given overarching investigative powers, and, in the course of its inquiry, interviewed more than 201 witnesses – including members of Bin Laden’s own family, the chief of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, and other senior provincial, federal and military officials. It also notes that the government’s intention in conducting the inquiry was likely aimed at ‘regime continuance, when the regime is desperate to distance itself from any responsibility for the national disaster that occurred on its watch’ and was likely to be ‘a reluctant response to an overwhelming public and parliamentary demand’.
The Commission found that there had been a complete collapse of governance and law enforcement - a situation it termed ‘Government Implosion Syndrome’, both in the lack of intelligence on Bin Laden’s nine-year residence in Pakistan, and in the response to the US raid that killed him. It finds that ‘culpable negligence and incompetence at almost all levels of government can more or less be conclusively established’.
On the presence of a CIA network in Pakistan tracking down Bin Laden, without the Pakistani establishment’s knowledge, the Commission finds “this [was] a case of nothing less than a collective and sustained dereliction of duty by the political, military and intelligence leadership of the country”.
It also states that the US violation of Pakistani sovereignty, in carrying out the raid unilaterally, had been allowed to happen due to inaccurate and outdated threat assessments within the country’s defence and strategic policy establishments. “It is official or unofficial defence policy not to attempt to defend the country if threatened, or even attacked by a military superpower like the US?” the Commission asks of several top military officers.
“From a Pakistani strategic doctrine point of view,” the report notes, while issuing findings on how the military had wholly focused its “peacetime deployment” of defence capabilities on the border with India, “the world stood still for almost a decade.” The report states that “the inability to spot the low flying helicopters over Abbottabad cantonment was a major failure.” The report reads that “no apparent attempt to take him alive was made.
Four Pakistani citizens were also killed without any attempt to disarm or detain them. None apparently put up any resistance or fired at the raiders. The US raid was not a capture or kill mission. It was a kill mission.” Finally, through testimony from Bin Laden’s family and intelligence officials, it provides a fascinating, and richly detailed, account of Bin Laden’s time in Pakistan: his movements, his habits and his pattern of life. In concluding its report, the Commission finds that the country’s “political, military intelligence and bureaucratic leadership cannot be absolved of their responsibility for the state of governance, policy planning and policy implementation that eventually rendered this national failure almost inevitable”, and calls on the country’s leadership to formally apologise to the people of Pakistan for “their dereliction of duty”.
2011 Raid US special forces launched a raid deep into Pakistani territory on May 1, 2011 to capture or kill al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden. US soldiers flew via helicopter to the Pakistani army garrison town of Abbottabad on US President Barack Obama, where he was hiding according to their intelligence. In the subsequent raid, Bin Laden and four others were killed, whilst several were wounded.
Following the operation, that had been deliberately conducted without the knowledge of the Pakistani government or its military, a commission was set up in Pakistan to examine “how the US was able to execute a hostile military mission, which lasted around three hours, deep inside Pakistan”, and how Pakistan’s “intelligence establishment apparently had no idea that an international fugitive of the renown or notoriety of [Osama bin Laden] was residing in [Abbottabad],” the report says.
Page 197 of the report, which contains part of the testimony of Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, then director of the ISI, was missing from all copies of the report that Al Jazeera obtained from multiple sources, the news channel stated. The report also stated that President Asif Zardari, then prime minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and Army chief General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani did not record their statements before the commission.
It is unclear what was contained on that page, but the contextual implication is that, among other things, it contains a list of seven demands made by the United States to Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks in 2001. - See more at: OBL fiasco: security apparatus
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Regrettably, Hamoodur Rahman Commission report and now this one do not put the blame on any one party; could be because the Investigating Judges want to avoid wrath of the all-powerful Pakistan Military establishment. Both the reports have muddled the issue by putting the blame on the military as well civilian agencies.
I am equating 1971, Kargil & May 2, 2011 incidents as in all of the cases Pakistan’ national honour was rubbed in the dust. It is about time that we are honest to ourselves and put the blame squarely where it lies.
No doubt ZA Bhutto by refusing to attend the parliament precipitated the events resulting in the fall of Dacca in Dec 1971. Military High Command in Islamabad is directly responsible for appointing cowardly commanders like Gen Niazi and not fully analysing Pak Army‘s ability to wage war 1000 miles away. A competent military leader avoids the war that cannot be won. If it was deemed inevitable that East Pakistan will secede, why not do it with good grace? The blame for the defeat in 1971 war therefore lies primarily on the GHQ.
Similar mistakes were repeated at Kargil. Lightly armed jawans of NLI were put in the harm’s way. Obviously GHQ undertook this venture without adequately calculating India’ response and our logistic capabilities to support these brave sons of Pakistan and the political will to carry the operations to its conclusion one way or another.
Inept way that 1971 war was fought and the book by Brig Zaheer Alam Khan ‘The way it was’ highlight that process of selecting leaders of Pak Army is flawed. Tough fighting officers are retired early and boot licking toadies promoted to senior command ranks.
Abbottabad Commission report again highlights serious incompetence by the Military High Command, ISI & MI.
Osama was hiding in Pakistan for 9 years. US Military leadership in Afghanistan, Afghan Gov’t & the CIA repeatedly asserted that OBL was hiding in Pakistan. Despite all of this it never occurred to anyone in GHQ, ISI or MI to seriously look for Osama?
In retrospect, US Gov’t decision to keep Pak agencies in the dark in this affair was correct. Even an idiot would conclude that ISI & MI were either involved in hiding OBL or were totally incompetent.
Regret to state that after reading excerpts of this report from Aljazeera, I have lost faith in the ability of Pakistan Army leadership and especially its security network. This also explains why despite attacks on the GHQ, PNS Mehran & PAF Kamra; where Pakistani military lost billions of dollars’ worth of strategic equipment; we have not been able to control TTP and other terrorists.
Logical conclusion is that either ISI, MI and the officer corps has been infiltrated with Hizb Tehrir and/or other Islamic terrorist parties to such an extent that terrorists get active inside support or most of the officers are totally incompetent. Either way, it is extremely damaging to Pakistan military fighting capability as well as survival of Pakistan State.
Some may call my words harsh, but in my humble opinion time for dilly dallying is long past and whole sale ‘in house cleansing’ of all the Military establishment is a must.
It is also clear that we have anti-Pakistan State element a plenty in the political parties as well. JI was always against creation of Pakistan but at least their leadership does not hide their love of TTP terrorists. More worrying is the soft spot for the killers of Pashtuns in KPK PTI gov’t and presence of LeJ supporting element in MPLN such as Rana Sana ullah.
However, way to combat section of Pakistan polity who want to convert Pakistan into a dark age Somalia is thru the ballot box.
I am equating 1971, Kargil & May 2, 2011 incidents as in all of the cases Pakistan’ national honour was rubbed in the dust. It is about time that we are honest to ourselves and put the blame squarely where it lies.
No doubt ZA Bhutto by refusing to attend the parliament precipitated the events resulting in the fall of Dacca in Dec 1971. Military High Command in Islamabad is directly responsible for appointing cowardly commanders like Gen Niazi and not fully analysing Pak Army‘s ability to wage war 1000 miles away. A competent military leader avoids the war that cannot be won. If it was deemed inevitable that East Pakistan will secede, why not do it with good grace? The blame for the defeat in 1971 war therefore lies primarily on the GHQ.
Similar mistakes were repeated at Kargil. Lightly armed jawans of NLI were put in the harm’s way. Obviously GHQ undertook this venture without adequately calculating India’ response and our logistic capabilities to support these brave sons of Pakistan and the political will to carry the operations to its conclusion one way or another.
Inept way that 1971 war was fought and the book by Brig Zaheer Alam Khan ‘The way it was’ highlight that process of selecting leaders of Pak Army is flawed. Tough fighting officers are retired early and boot licking toadies promoted to senior command ranks.
Abbottabad Commission report again highlights serious incompetence by the Military High Command, ISI & MI.
Osama was hiding in Pakistan for 9 years. US Military leadership in Afghanistan, Afghan Gov’t & the CIA repeatedly asserted that OBL was hiding in Pakistan. Despite all of this it never occurred to anyone in GHQ, ISI or MI to seriously look for Osama?
In retrospect, US Gov’t decision to keep Pak agencies in the dark in this affair was correct. Even an idiot would conclude that ISI & MI were either involved in hiding OBL or were totally incompetent.
Regret to state that after reading excerpts of this report from Aljazeera, I have lost faith in the ability of Pakistan Army leadership and especially its security network. This also explains why despite attacks on the GHQ, PNS Mehran & PAF Kamra; where Pakistani military lost billions of dollars’ worth of strategic equipment; we have not been able to control TTP and other terrorists.
Logical conclusion is that either ISI, MI and the officer corps has been infiltrated with Hizb Tehrir and/or other Islamic terrorist parties to such an extent that terrorists get active inside support or most of the officers are totally incompetent. Either way, it is extremely damaging to Pakistan military fighting capability as well as survival of Pakistan State.
Some may call my words harsh, but in my humble opinion time for dilly dallying is long past and whole sale ‘in house cleansing’ of all the Military establishment is a must.
It is also clear that we have anti-Pakistan State element a plenty in the political parties as well. JI was always against creation of Pakistan but at least their leadership does not hide their love of TTP terrorists. More worrying is the soft spot for the killers of Pashtuns in KPK PTI gov’t and presence of LeJ supporting element in MPLN such as Rana Sana ullah.
However, way to combat section of Pakistan polity who want to convert Pakistan into a dark age Somalia is thru the ballot box.
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This report gives out the extent of CIA ops in Pakistan, the testimony of Rehman Malik (Minister of Interior) is especially and eye opener. IB inspector, FIA officer and a couple of others were found getting money from US. Then a few retired Army officers.
All in all, as the commission rightly says, the blame cannot be put on any one person solely, nor can anyone be absolved. It was a collective failure.
In some instances, you can see that the commission goes a bit overboard with it's observations, maybe they are just too eager to put in their perspective!
All in all, as the commission rightly says, the blame cannot be put on any one person solely, nor can anyone be absolved. It was a collective failure.
In some instances, you can see that the commission goes a bit overboard with it's observations, maybe they are just too eager to put in their perspective!
You guys are quite good at throwing out crap about ISI from your rear end - in this case, throwing out fantastic conspiracy theories. This was a collective failure from many different parts of the Pakistani state, end of the story. No need to turn it into a fantastic conspiracy theory. US itself has admitted that there was no double game of sorts.
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Agree 100%. Pakistanis like to live in a state of denial.
If you remember, most of the posts in this forum just after the event, as well as majority of guests invited on the media panel discussions, claimed that OBL was never in Pakistan and all of this was ruse by the US to insult Pakistan. I am sure ordinary man on the street still believes the same. Most Pakistanis still think that 9/11 was also a drama and engineered by the CIA & Mossaad to punish innocent Muslims. We also have short memory, you will see all the uproar will die down in a couple of days and there will be business as usual.
Regret to say that state of denial has reached the level that despite the fact Taliban & LeJ shout from the rooftop that we have done it; JI leader Syed Munawwar Hassan insists how do we know it was a TTP spokesperson on the line? No one thinks that the fault lies with us; only thing my countrymen like to believe is that it is Indian & Jewish ‘Conspiracy’ behind everything and Pakistan being the innocent victim.
I just heard the bigot Hamid Gul claiming that OBL affair were an ISI success story because they managed to hide OBL for 9 years?
If true, fact that entire GOP & Musharraf as COAS and head of State were saying they didnot know where OBL was, means all Pakistanis are liers. However this indicates how the foxy Hamid Gul is trying to hide failure of his old organization. You can judge for yourself the dishonest character of the ex head of the ISI.
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May be you are right....phoren media has brainwashed me!!
Leading article: Tolerance for Pakistan's double game must end - Editorials - Voices - The Independent
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/27/opinion/27tue1.html?_r=0
Analysis: Pakistan's double-game: treachery or strategy? | Reuters
U.S. Support for Pakistan: A Long Messy History : The New Yorker
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Correctly recognizing the problem & acknowledgeing it is the first critical step to solving a problem.
Many Pakistan members in PDF only has confirmed that there are groups within ISI & military persuing their own agenda and they are sympethizers to some elements against whom Pakistan is fighting.niaz
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Hon Batman,
Don’t think any official channels in Pakistan denied that Osama was not there. This was claimed only by the media pundits and so called experts.
In a normal country heads would roll even on suspicion of incompetence. In the UK after Argentinians invaded Falkland, Lord Carrington, the Foreign Minister resigned for not foreseeing what could happen. No one resigned in the US after 9/11 but they made sure that nothing on that scale can happen again and it hasn’t.
May 2, 2011 was a slap on the face of Pakistan. For the sake of going thru the motions, Abbottabad Commission was asked to investigate. The report was not made public because it indirectly pointed fingers at the incompetence of security agencies.
However we need not worry, report does not specifically blame any single party, thus nothing is going to happen and the report will rot on the shelves as usual.
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In Pakistan, the people who were suppose to roll the head, were the one who corroborated it with US.
There was full chance of coup, following the incidence... when Zardari left Pakistan.
Whatever, commission tells now, truth is no one from the top testified.
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our leadership including army are bunch of incompetent idiots who are worst than a damn prostitute.
I just hope that they burn in hell .
I just hope that they burn in hell .
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