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Finally state of Pakistan decided to stand for its Sovereignty

You have absolutelyyyyyy no idea what you are on..
The state was neutral from day 1.
Isnt it ISI's literal job to safeguard Pakistan against foreign aggression. Device policies and recommend them to civil govt for cases such as this. I know army has very cordial relations with US military establishment but IK change in foreign policy would have been beneficial for Pakistan. Is it not the job of ISI to device plans and suggest strategies which would allow IK to shift his foreign policy in a much more efficient way?
Where is our bureaucracy? when you pass CSS and join FSP you are given training in kakul, and in academy. What are they teaching there that we literally had to submit to USA and have a popular PM removed.
IK was doing the right thing diversifying our foreign relations with every country be it RUSSIA, CHINA OR WEST with Pakistan centric approach but he fumbled up the diversifying process. Where was ISI and establishment during all this.
Army's and ISI job is to safeguard state and its people from foreign threats their is no such thing as being neutral in that case. It is literally their job.
 
Salaam

We need an Erdogan style purge. Judges, generals, media and NGOs.


To do an Erdogan style purge, you need an Erdogan style grip on power and the power structure. To get that type and level of grip on power you need to work long and hard with a deep understanding of the power structure. He had been in power for more than a decade when the coup hit. You don't get that in 3 years.
 
Isnt it ISI's literal job to safeguard Pakistan against foreign aggression. Device policies and recommend them to civil govt for cases such as this. I know army has very cordial relations with US military establishment but IK change in foreign policy would have been beneficial for Pakistan. Is it not the job of ISI to device plans and suggest strategies which would allow IK to shift his foreign policy in a much more efficient way?
Where is our bureaucracy? when you pass CSS and join FSP you are given training in kakul, and in academy. What are they teaching there that we literally had to submit to USA and have a popular PM removed.
IK was doing the right thing diversifying our foreign relations with every country be it RUSSIA, CHINA OR WEST with Pakistan centric approach but he fumbled up the diversifying process. Where was ISI and establishment during all this.
Army's and ISI job is to safeguard state and its people from foreign threats their is no such thing as being neutral in that case. It is literally their job.
I mentioned neutrality w.r.t politics and vote..not with regards to any evidence collected of foriegn intrusion. NSC has said this is unacceptable. And now the ball is in CJs. Court.he is the guy who should take suo motu and get this No confidence movement postponed until this matter is settled.. ISI/IB should have evidence at hand to provide that can connect the foriegn hand with the promises made locally . This is the logical conclusion to it.

 
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I hope Imran Khan finishes this fight
ان شا اللہ
With thumping victory in the next elections. He is winner whatever be the result of the NC.

Salaam




To do an Erdogan style purge, you need an Erdogan style grip on power and the power structure. To get that type and level of grip on power you need to work long and hard with a deep understanding of the power structure. He had been in power for more than a decade when the coup hit. You don't get that in 3 years.
That's tru.
Other factors, Turks are one nation except Kurds in the southeast.
 
Oh yes. STRONG condemnation. Thank you Bajwa this fixes everything.
Someone deleted my meme :undecided: it was literally based on your comment. Censorship here is stronger than in China.
 
Isnt it ISI's literal job to safeguard Pakistan against foreign aggression. Device policies and recommend them to civil govt for cases such as this. I know army has very cordial relations with US military establishment but IK change in foreign policy would have been beneficial for Pakistan. Is it not the job of ISI to device plans and suggest strategies which would allow IK to shift his foreign policy in a much more efficient way?
Where is our bureaucracy? when you pass CSS and join FSP you are given training in kakul, and in academy. What are they teaching there that we literally had to submit to USA and have a popular PM removed.
IK was doing the right thing diversifying our foreign relations with every country be it RUSSIA, CHINA OR WEST with Pakistan centric approach but he fumbled up the diversifying process. Where was ISI and establishment during all this.
Army's and ISI job is to safeguard state and its people from foreign threats their is no such thing as being neutral in that case. It is literally their job.
Oh bhai meray this very same world no. 1 uber patriotic ISI were rubber stamping security clearances of hundreds of CIA/US/Blackwater covert agents who were given Pakistani visas in droves by that traitor Haqqani...
 
unfortunately some bal*s licke*s of usa on this forum will still talk about how good us-pak friendship is
 
And now the ball is in CJs.

No it's your job !

Even though the executive enjoys all the constitional powers and resources at its disposal but its your job to arrest each and every thug roaming free out there or stop every incoming projectile from any hostile nation .

unfortunately some bal*s licke*s of usa on this forum will still talk about how good us-pak friendship is

elitist mood swings count nothing unless the state completely do away with the socio-political and economic system of Jesuit led regimes.
 
Here is how I define politics:

It is a waltz between opposing self interests. At the end of the day, one side has to make the other side acquiesce against its own interest to some degree. So, it is not possible for there to be such a thing as clean politics. :azn:
If someone stood for the rights and interests of millions of people genuinely from the heart. Specially for the under privileged or oppressed ones then it's a clean politics.
Just like jinnah stood for pakistan.
 
Face saving tactics amidst public backlash. Military will go hand in hand with the opposition behind the scenes and ensure IK is ousted and their masters satisfied and futures secured.
Don't let your hate for the Army spill over.
In the NSC meeting, before PM's address to the Nation yesterday, all services Chiefs were present.... Do you think Imran Khan would have named America without all being aboard and giving the nod.
 
If someone stood for the rights and interests of millions of people genuinely from the heart. Specially for the under privileged or oppressed ones then it's a clean politics.
Just like jinnah stood for pakistan.

The sun of Pakistan’s good leaders has set.

We’re left with whatever we can get now
 
I have never seen any head of state harming the country in order to stay in power. What he has raised as an issue is very common practice. His using private conversations to play politics will create trust deficit with him with all heads of state. Nobody will trust him anymore. If opposition withdraws NCM and let him continue he will suffer for his act.
 

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