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Final assault on Lal Masjid Top clerics were not there

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ISLAMABAD, Jan 3: The senior leadership of the Lal Masjid and several key functionaries of Jamia Hafsa and Jamia Faridia, the two seminaries attached to it, were either not present in the mosque or had left it before the military launched its final assault on July 10, 2007.

This has emerged from the testimonies of 50 of the 294 witnesses recorded in the past four days by the one-man judicial commission inquiring into the July 3-11, 2007 bloody operation that killed 103 people, including family members of Maulana Abdul Aziz, head cleric of the mosque, teachers and students of the seminaries and 10 security personnel.

Asiya Hameed, a teacher of Jamia Hafsa and custodian of the record of the girls seminary, was among the 16 witnesses who recorded their statements with the commission on Thursday.

“Since I was not in the madrassa during the operation, I don’t know the exact details,” she said when asked by the head of the commission Justice Shehzado Sheikh of the Federal Shariat Court, whether she had the record of the girls who were on rolls, or went missing during the operation.

She said her uncle had taken her away from the mosque complex, where the girls seminary operated, on July 3, 2007, the day the operation began.

When she rejoined Jamia Hafsa, she said, she did not find the record, which security agencies might have taken away.

Maulana Aziz, who also acted as principal of Jamia Faridia located in Sector E-7, had similarly told the commission in his testimony on December 31 that he could not compile the record of the students killed or went missing in the operation as he was arrested when he came out of the mosque on July 4, 2007, the day after the army laid siege to the mosque.

Reports at that time said Maulana Aziz slipped out in a ‘burqa’ in the company of his daughters and girl students leaving the mosque in response to appeals made by the administration in the days before the Special Services Group launched the final assault on July 10, 2007.

Nazim of Jamia Hafsa, Afzal Khan, deposing the day after Maulana Aziz did, told the commission that he and some 500 girl students had left the mosque on July 6, 2007 during a break in the curfew imposed in the mosque area.

Umme Hassan, Maulana Aziz’s spouse and principal of Jamia Hafsa, was arrested from inside the mosque complex on July 10, 2007 but says she did not witness the last stages of the final assault.

She told Dawn that she had struggled for the enforcement of Sharia in the country and lost many members of her family in the quest, including her only son Hassan.

“I sacrificed my son for a cause. There was nothing more precious to me than him,” she said.

Her husband, Maulana Aziz, had recounted to the commission other members the family lost – his mother Sahiba Khatoon, younger brother Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi and two cousins.

Many teachers, students of Jamia Faridia and their administrator Tariq Saeed, escaped the misfortune as they were detained inside the seminary located far away from the mosque, according to a teacher of Lal Masjid, Maulana Abdul Qadir.

Sajjad Ahmed, a Murree-based journalist, told the commission that his elder brother Khalid Ameen, inspired by sermons of clerics, reached Lal Masjid on July 3, 2007 morning to defend it and went missing in the aftermath.

“I received his last call on July 6 (2007) and then silence fell, without a trace of him,” he said. Despite his best efforts, Khalid Ameen’s body was not found.

Sajjad told Dawn that his brother was not religious-minded and seldom offered prayer in Lal Masjid. “But because he was an emotional man, he decided to stand with the Lal Masjid people till the end,” he said, adding that “the role of clerics was not very encouraging in this episode”.

“My family lives in a never-ending uncertainty over Ameen’s fate.”

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Of course the top figures werent there, why would they want to get killed. Only one killed was the brother of maulvi Aziz, all the rest ran away.

Absence of registration rolls of the seminary is just an excuse.

Anyway, why is this commission formed anyway? What will it find? That army was wrong in doing this op?
 
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Of course the top figures werent there, why would they want to get killed. Only one killed was the brother of maulvi Aziz, all the rest ran away.

Absence of registration rolls of the seminary is just an excuse.

Anyway, why is this commission formed anyway? What will it find? That army was wrong in doing this op?

One was killed because he was made hostage as a shield for escapisim by same terrorists of TTP whom he gave sheltter.

Umme hassan should also tell the nation why those girl students accused her of locking the doors on them from outside and escaped :angry:
 
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..and where was all that good looking 'justice talk' when these Mullahs were taking state matters in their own hands and where were they in all those 5 years after the operation? The truth is that both Mullahs from Lal Masjid and Govt (JUI/coalition partners etc), Choudhrys (PML-Q) and army(Musharaf to be precise) all mishandled the situation.

They all first created this mess by not stopping these Mullahs when he took illegal control of Govt land (and library?) and when they started kidnapping and threatening locals in the name of Islam. Govt and Police's silence on smaller incidents made them more stronger and look what happened, they threatened the state.

Later the need for full-scale operation was wrong too, most of them surrendered by hearing sounds of 3 Cobra helicopters; If they hand cut water,electricity, gas and food supply there was no way they could survive for a week in such hot weather.
 
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How did they escape and where are they now? who escorted them out of the closed area if they got out from the siege ?
 
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..and where was all that good looking 'justice talk' when these Mullahs were taking state matters in their own hands and where were they in all those 5 years after the operation? The truth is that both Mullahs from Lal Masjid and Govt (JUI/coalition partners etc), Choudhrys (PML-Q) and army(Musharaf to be precise) all mishandled the situation.

They all first created this mess by not stopping these Mullahs when he took illegal control of Govt land (and library?) and when they started kidnapping and threatening locals in the name of Islam. Govt and Police's silence on smaller incidents made them more stronger and look what happened, they threatened the state.

Later the need for full-scale operation was wrong too, most of them surrendered by hearing sounds of 3 Cobra helicopters; If they hand cut water,electricity, gas and food supply there was no way they could survive for a week in such hot weather.

Exactly, but only some will analyze and detect consequences even now. We didn't learn from past but repeat same mistake every time. I don't think something will change even if in change of doctrine or anti-terrorism amendments.
 
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Later the need for full-scale operation was wrong too, most of them surrendered by hearing sounds of 3 Cobra helicopters; If they hand cut water,electricity, gas and food supply there was no way they could survive for a week in such hot weather.

That is the problem. They didn't surrender. There were bunkers made on minarets and on the seminary grounds, there were rockets strewn all over the ground of the mosque. Most of them got caught in this badly, but there were a fair few hard liners in them, including foreigners.
 
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That is the problem. They didn't surrender. There were bunkers made on minarets and on the seminary grounds, there were rockets strewn all over the ground of the mosque. Most of them got caught in this badly, but there were a fair few hard liners in them, including foreigners.

Sir g, even they had bunkers but cutting off the power and food supply would have a different effect. You can't survive with food/water for more than 3 days. But innocent could have been injured during this those who were held against their will. So they decided to cut it short and go for operation i guess.

One thing I fail to understand is what on earth SC will get out of their after 5 years? that those Mullahs and terrorists were right and the army used excessive force on the so called Innocents?
 
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Sir g, even they had bunkers but cutting off the power and food supply would have a different effect. You can't survive with food/water for more than 3 days. But innocent could have been injured during this those who were held against their will. So they decided to cut it short and go for operation i guess.

One thing I fail to understand is what on earth SC will get out of their after 5 years? that those Mullahs and terrorists were right and the army used excessive force on the so called Innocents?


What you are saying about cutting off the power and food supply was already done.
 
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What you are saying about cutting off the power and food supply was already done.
For some odd reason I really wasn't that into current affairs and political discussions back in the days, so can't really remember what was done. Thats why in my second point i mentioned that even if we had cut off the supply , they were not going to surrender, thanks for reminding me :)
 
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For some reason , I think there wasn't any reason for an operation even , it so appears that Govt or SSG was not willing to take the " chemical warfare " route , those fanatics challenging the writ of the state could have been subdued without any causality on our army's side - I do not care about those psychopaths by any chance ... Look what the Russians did in " theater siege " when they pumped the " triazolam - fentanyl " based mixture of gas ( based on guesses and the examination of the civilians who were evacuated afterwards ) into the ventilation system ... The terrorists were knocked unconscious and the mission was accomplished ... As they say " Keep it simply , silly " ... Why did we waste the precious life of our soldiers when these extremists could be dealt in more effective , easy and powerful ways keeping the public's anger in check ? :azn:

Reports at that time said Maulana Aziz slipped out in a ‘burqa’ in the company of his daughters and girl students

A role model for bravery , perhaps ?
 
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I am not surprised. These extremists will gladly send others to die for them after brainwashing them from childhood. When the going gets hard, they're the first ones to run.

A bunch of low-life really.
 
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